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Nydus905
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia5 Posts
April 02 2011 13:06 GMT
#21
Yeah but the difference is that MLG isn't just starting, They have been running these for YEARS!
http://www.justin.tv/nydus905
Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
April 02 2011 13:39 GMT
#22
On April 02 2011 20:25 crazeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 11:23 Tumba1 wrote:
I agree with OP, I'm a big fan of eSports and consistently purchase GOM season tickets. They are the benchmark for me. @ $10 for GOM if you aren't coming with GOM style production quality then you are just not charging the right amount.

I considered purchasing a pass for MLG, but I couldn't even get the free stream to work. If the free stream doesn't work WHY would I assume the one you pay for will? I mean you put out the free stream to give a taste, and they can't even get that working.

I'm all for eSports growth, however I'm with the OP on this. Day [9] isn't quite as good as his brother Tastless and you can't compare DJ wheat to Artosis. So the commentators aren't going to be as sharp either.

Sorry MLG.. not feeling ya.

NASL I hope you take notes from GOM.


oh how quick we are to forget.... I'm a GOMTV fanboy and I'd be the first person to admit that GOMTV was complete shit when they first started with the GSL. Remember how nobody can even open the LQ or HQ stream because it would hit the (super low) cap? That and stream was prone to dying randomly and I literally had a list of 10 different server opened on notepad so I can swap between them whenever they crashed. and there was a time where europeans had a lot of problems watching their stream because it would lag like hell.

GOM is doing a lot better now, but they had a lot of problems when they started too.


MLG has been running for years and almost every time I would watch there was always some technical problem. Plus why didn't the MLG SC2 people anticipate this? They must have checked out other tournaments where tens of thousands of people would watch at the same time.
Tumba1
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 16:11:24
April 02 2011 16:08 GMT
#23
On April 02 2011 14:16 ChThoniC wrote:
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On April 02 2011 14:05 SlapMySalami wrote:
On April 02 2011 10:27 ChThoniC wrote:

- Not using available technology (justin.tv and other scalable streaming sites) ostensibly to make more money from their own ad revenue


it IS a business


If you think providing a poorer service for more immediate revenue is good business, you have a lot to learn.


Exactly! This is what I was going to tell him. MLG is obviously taking advantage of die hards they will pay to watch just out of pure love for SC2. Bad business choice for sure. Why is it bad business? Because people like me with disposable income still expect a certain production quality. I don't care if it's day 1 of the event or not. Hire smarter people so your stuff works, now that is GOOD business.

NOW MLG has a REPUTATION for BAD streams. Once you develop a bad rep in something pertaining to entertainment it is hard to come back. Just ask Vanilla Ice. So MLG right the ship before it ends up sinking in a sea of wrong..

I also heard NASL is $25 for 3 MONTHS! If they have the production quality of GOM I will be pleased.

I heard the temp. CEO of MLG on state of the game. He sounds like he is in way over his head.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 02 2011 16:35 GMT
#24
I paid for the stream, and I'm kind of miffed so far, but I went to bed early last night after giving up on the stream, and have no idea whether they got it working or not. Today will decide my satisfaction.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
April 02 2011 17:36 GMT
#25
Maybe next time I'll buy a HQ pass. I've paid GSL season passes and GSTL and I only had problems in the beginning of GSL 1 and always enjoy the HQ vods :D

MLG right now reminds me of GSL 1 so I'll be waiting till next time I watch the streams if it's good or not to buy the HQ pass. From what I gather so far from others is that they've had issues for years when it comes to streaming so this already isn't good publicity to me as it seems they don't listen to the customers or atleast try to improve their streaming services.

Everyone gets their chances so I'll just wait untill next MLG event.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 02 2011 18:13 GMT
#26
Welcome to esports guys !_!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 18:38:08
April 02 2011 18:31 GMT
#27
We're currently experiencing some internet issues in Dallas. The tournament is on hold while we work this out. We apologize for the delay.


That's from the live blog on the SC2 Stream. The COD and Halo streams don't seem to be suffering from this major infrastructure trouble that tiny podunk town seems to have. They're still running pretty well smooth. Soooo, since SC2 is their lowest priority, MLG will be my lowest priority as far as events to support.

Edit for update: MLG Statement about the issues.

The highlight:
Last night, as we began our live broadcast, our site crashed due to high traffic. Following the site restoration, our streams remain difficult to access. We offer our sincere apologies for the issues you experienced last night and are continuing to experience.


Notice the direct implication that all the streams are broken, and SC2 isn't being singled out to keep the other games going? This is the exact opposite of the case as far as I can tell, as every time the SC2 stream dies for more than a few seconds, I check at least one shooter stream, and they're still up.

MLG is giving SC2 fans the middle finger, and insulting us by trying to feed us this.
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
April 02 2011 23:27 GMT
#28
How has today gone, guys? I haven't even bothered trying to watch.
i c u
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
April 03 2011 00:38 GMT
#29
MLG has always had a fun rep of having some problems on the first event of the year every year with them trying something new and then running into some problems.

I've personally never had any real problem with this though. Its a growing company thats really trying out there to grow something big. I've always ALWAYS have been able to see the Sunday stream in perfect condition. I even remember the bad old days before they even had a stream. They've always posted their vods for free so you can catch up if you missed Friday night.

I went onto the stream and it was just fine after a couple refresh's and the same with today. I consider this a good thing considering the massive hits mean that esports have grown a lot. I can understand if you feel bad about wasted money but they've already said that everyone gets another pass for the next event.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
shavi
Profile Joined July 2010
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 01:04:11
April 03 2011 01:03 GMT
#30
On April 02 2011 20:25 crazeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 11:23 Tumba1 wrote:
I agree with OP, I'm a big fan of eSports and consistently purchase GOM season tickets. They are the benchmark for me. @ $10 for GOM if you aren't coming with GOM style production quality then you are just not charging the right amount.

I considered purchasing a pass for MLG, but I couldn't even get the free stream to work. If the free stream doesn't work WHY would I assume the one you pay for will? I mean you put out the free stream to give a taste, and they can't even get that working.

I'm all for eSports growth, however I'm with the OP on this. Day [9] isn't quite as good as his brother Tastless and you can't compare DJ wheat to Artosis. So the commentators aren't going to be as sharp either.

Sorry MLG.. not feeling ya.

NASL I hope you take notes from GOM.


GOM is doing a lot better now, but they had a lot of problems when they started too.


Yea, but MLG isn't just starting, they streamed last year as well. $10 for how many matches have been streamed (and longer than that for non-sc2 related things)? Like 5 the first day and a handful today? The price is well over industry standards for HIGH QUALITY production. I understand production for this won't be as high and that of course there will be more issues, but they're charging more than any other company is for the games currently and they're putting forth the worst product.
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
April 04 2011 21:58 GMT
#31
Now that it's all over, I'd like to hear. Did anyone ask for a refund? If so, what was MLG's response? I'm really curious about this.
i c u
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
April 04 2011 23:24 GMT
#32
I bought an HQ pass and i was extremely displeased with the stream, i think there were 6 series that were casted live on friday and 3 live series casted on saturday with a few replays being cast that day as well. sunday i didnt even get to see any of the games because i finally got fed up with waiting for them to fix something every game. i think it was a good idea to make it just standard qualitiy so at least you could see the games but the reason i bought the HQ pass in the first place is because i cant see wtf is going on in the games because the SQ stream is terrible. i still have not seen the sunday games and im pretty upset about that considering that mlg said they would get the vods up as soon as possible. i really hope they dont mean that they will restream the matches all over again because i dont want to have to sit here and wait for certain games i would really just like to pick the games of players i enjoy watching.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
April 05 2011 13:54 GMT
#33
On April 05 2011 08:24 Nazeron wrote:
I bought an HQ pass and i was extremely displeased with the stream, i think there were 6 series that were casted live on friday and 3 live series casted on saturday with a few replays being cast that day as well. sunday i didnt even get to see any of the games because i finally got fed up with waiting for them to fix something every game. i think it was a good idea to make it just standard qualitiy so at least you could see the games but the reason i bought the HQ pass in the first place is because i cant see wtf is going on in the games because the SQ stream is terrible. i still have not seen the sunday games and im pretty upset about that considering that mlg said they would get the vods up as soon as possible. i really hope they dont mean that they will restream the matches all over again because i dont want to have to sit here and wait for certain games i would really just like to pick the games of players i enjoy watching.


Have you tried asking for a refund? You werent delivered the product you thought you were getting, and they ended up wasting a lot of your time.

If you do this, please post the response here. I want to know if MLG cares about their customers or if they care more about your $10.
i c u
Treetop
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States140 Posts
April 05 2011 14:01 GMT
#34
The only real thing I can say on the matter is, I tried to tune in five different times over the course of the weekend. Four times the stream provided me an ad, and never loaded up the actual MLG stream. The fifth time the quality was so absolutely poor. The second I went into full screen mode, I thought I had sudden onset Cataracts or something. Not too good of a start. I'm sure they'll work things out.
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