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WoW claims another childs life

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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
April 01 2011 17:58 GMT
#1
Maybe not the best title but whatever. I glance through the newspaper this morning that my parents get and this is what I find:

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2011-04-01/story/jury-rules-gaming-kings-bay-sailor-guilty-sons-death


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Jury rules gaming Kings Bay sailor guilty in son's death
Baby was surrounded by pillows while father played 'World of Warcraft' game.


Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2011-04-01/story/jury-rules-gaming-kings-bay-sailor-guilty-sons-death#ixzz1IIHmldx9

WOODBINE - A Camden County jury found a Kings Bay sailor guilty of involuntary manslaughter and three other charges in the death of his 11-week-old son, who prosecutors asserted suffocated while the man played an online video game.

The eight-woman, four-man jury deliberated about 21/2 hours before delivering its verdicts finding Andrew Warner, 29, guilty of involuntary manslaughter, second-degree cruelty to children, reckless conduct and making false statements to law enforcement officers.

Superior Court Judge Anthony Harrison, who presided over the two-day trial, allowed Warner to remain free on bail until Wednesday, when he is to report to the Camden County jail. Harrison did not set a sentencing date for Warner, who could be sentenced to 10 years in prison on the involuntary manslaughter conviction alone.

Warner's wife, Kristy, who also faces a charge of making a false statement, testified in his defense Thursday.

Although she testified that she did not see her husband playing the game "World of Warcraft" the day their son Brandin died, she did acknowledge the game had become a sore point in their marriage.

Under cross-examination Thursday by District Attorney Jackie Johnson, Kristy Warner acknowledged that she had told her husband he played the game to the point he neglected his family, which includes three daughters.

"It seemed he spent more time with that than he did us," she said.

Brandin Warner died Jan. 16, 2009, as his father, a Kings Bay sailor, babysat him at their Kingsland home.

Investigators testified on the first day of the trial that Andrew Warner said on the day of his son's death that he had fed his son, played with him and then put him on his and his wife's bed with pillows around him so he would not roll off. But when a completed autopsy report arrived six months later saying Brandin had suffocated, Andrew Warner acknowledged to Naval Criminal Investigative Services that he played "World of Warcraft" longer than he had admitted earlier and had seen his son with a pillow over his head. He left the pillow where it was and went back to playing the video game, investigators said.

That was the evidence that made her office "very happy with the verdict," District Attorney Jackie Johnson said.

"That's why we brought the case, the failure to act, to take minimal steps to make sure the baby could breathe," she said.

Wife testifies

Kristy Warner did back her husband's statement to police that he had fed his infant son during the afternoon. During one of her calls home that day as she shopped, their daughter Alexia had to hold the telephone for her dad because he was on the sofa feeding Brandin, she testified.

She testified that she found that their son had died sometime around 4:30 p.m. as she went into the bedroom to dress him for the short trip to her parents' house for dinner. Kristy Warner testified she had passed by her son at least a couple of times earlier and did not notice he was not breathing until she sat on the edge of the bed and put a hand on his back.

"I freaked," she said, relating her and her husband's frantic attempts to revive Brandin and to get help for him.

But she also testified about the odd circumstances of her son's birth, saying she didn't know she was pregnant until she gave birth at home Oct. 28, 2008, to an 8-pound, 2-ounce boy.

She had gone to the doctor in September and was told she was not pregnant but had a progesterone deficiency, for which she was prescribed birth control pills, Kristy Warner testified.

But with her family having financial trouble, she worried about caring for a fourth, unplanned child and went on the Internet looking at adoption sites, she testified.

After she and Brandin went to the hospital, she spoke with state Department of Family and Children Services about the possibility of putting her son up for adoption, Kristy Warner said.

"I wanted what was best for him,'' she said.

After speaking with Navy social workers and her mother, she and her husband were certain by the end of the day they wanted to keep their son.

"My mom came to the hospital, told me we would have support. All we had to do was love him," she said.

And her husband did love their son, Kristy Warner said.

"He adored him. He was his boy. He spent more time with that baby than he did with any of the other three," she said.

The other three, daughters 8, 6 and 4, are all in her mother's custody now. As she gave her children's ages, she ended with, "Brandin is almost 2."

Andrew and Kristy Warner both cried as she described their son's death.

She has been charged with making a false statement for telling an emergency dispatcher she found Brandin in his bassinet although she and her husband said later he was on their bed.


Basically, sailor playing WoW puts pillows around his, at the time, 11 week old son to keep him from falling off the bed or something. Baby ends up suffocating.

Obviously, this isn't the first time I have seen a title like this, but to have it happen so close to home, and to know that this guy was working on the same base my dad works at is pretty horrible, hopefully this fucker rots in a jail for a long time.

For those who don't know, Kings Bay Naval Base is one of only two bases in the country that houses the Trident nuclear submarines, and is the main port for them on the eastern coast of the U.S

Chalk up another infant death to idiotic parents....


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Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
April 01 2011 18:01 GMT
#2
I hate how this is going to put ruin gaming's reputation even more. WoW had nothing to do with it, it was just a stupid person.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 01 2011 18:07 GMT
#3
Replace WoW with anything else that can be perceived as addicting or time-consuming and the story would remain the same.
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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
April 01 2011 18:07 GMT
#4
Correction, terrible parenting and complete lack of self control claims a childs life. Terrible title.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 01 2011 18:08 GMT
#5
Seriously The guy could have been doing any hobby, but because its WoW it means that its important because Games are Baaaaaad.
Never Knows Best.
Fog-of-War
Profile Joined November 2009
United States103 Posts
April 01 2011 18:09 GMT
#6
This story is so sad on many different levels.
Jaeng
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada110 Posts
April 01 2011 18:09 GMT
#7
I wouldnt blame the game, its a person who chooses a game over their own child/family.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
April 01 2011 18:13 GMT
#8
On April 02 2011 03:08 Slaughter wrote:
Seriously The guy could have been doing any hobby, but because its WoW it means that its important because Games are Baaaaaad.


It's been demonized so much, it immediatly grabs peoples attention. Newspapers aren't that much different from tabloids, they go after what sells.

I know it's been done to death, but this is the first time I heard anything like it actually happening where I live.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 01 2011 18:13 GMT
#9
OP is incredibly strange. what did WoW have to do with it?
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
April 01 2011 18:21 GMT
#10
Yeah WoW had nothing to do with it. I feel terrible for both the parents and the child.

Unfortuneatly accidents happen. I'm not familiar with the legal perspective on this.

Although it is horrible that the child died in this manner it was an accident.

I'm not understanding the cruelty charge. If anyone can enlighten me that would be great.
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Drubael
Profile Joined March 2011
25 Posts
April 01 2011 18:28 GMT
#11
I'm sorry but I have to say this: if it was Starcraft BW or 2, I'm sure you would be thinking the same thinking everyone else would on this forum, that a game is being used as a scapegoat. Obviously, we don't hear 10 million WoW death stories. In fact, our 8 deaths per 100,000 people (In the U.S., just gonna assume average) shows that 800 people out of 10 million should die each year. Maybe they do, but it's almost never from WoW, or any video game for that matter.
DarkGeneral
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada328 Posts
April 01 2011 18:30 GMT
#12
how is that WoW's fault... people need to learn to accept responsibility...
"Everybody gotta die some time, righ'?" - Wraith Pilot
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 01 2011 18:46 GMT
#13
I don't think WoW claims lives. I've never seen a game come alive and choke someone to death. >.>

The media likes to tackle games and show why it kills people a lot it seems.

I think they should focus on homicide, smoking, and cancer before finding solutions to death by gaming imo

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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 01 2011 18:56 GMT
#14
Oh, another one of these articles. Maybe if one had better self-control and responsibilities it wouldnt happen.
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Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
April 01 2011 18:56 GMT
#15
Its sad, but please. It is not fault of WoW, addiction is fault of player.
Just another gold Protoss...
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 01 2011 19:05 GMT
#16
Terrible parent claims life of baby.

Much more appropriate title, methinks.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
April 01 2011 19:07 GMT
#17
title threads like this better next time, this one's unjustifiably aggressive, for all the views it will get.

the article is also a piece of shit, sensationalist reporting by people who don't seem to give a fuck about the facts of the kid's death, family's grief, or take interest in the propriety of the state's case. the story is sad, but really, why does this kind of thing need to be pushed in our faces 24/7.

wow didn't kill a kid, at worst, his dad is an irresponsible fucktard. and it looks like an accident to me, would he have been charged if he went to the kitchen for an hour to cook a meal and found his kid had suffocated when he got back ? i don't agree with the approach the prosecutors seem to have chosen at all judging from the report

that, and we're becoming increasingly alienated in the western world and more prone to escapism, by whatever means, whether they be drugs, video games, or a million other things

'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
April 01 2011 19:23 GMT
#18
More like "Father does something stupid and gets distracted." What a terrible thread title.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
spacemunkee
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States51 Posts
April 01 2011 19:24 GMT
#19
Change title to "Stupid father claims another childs life" so that it is accurate. Title is currently inaccurate.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 01 2011 22:11 GMT
#20
To play devils advocate here, WoW is a game designed specifically to make people keep playing. An endless treadmill with a carrot on a stick. Now you can argue games have always had elements of these back to the 90s especially RPGs, but however you mix that with modern online functionality and 'social' part of it, and it starts to become extremely addictive to some types of people.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
April 01 2011 22:14 GMT
#21
Was this thread title chosen to intentionally provoke reactions like this?
TickTockBoom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada185 Posts
April 01 2011 22:48 GMT
#22
Yeah, I hate it when people blame the actual game for the death of the child, it's the person with the addiction problem. It's easy to put the game down, just the human will does not allow it.
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
April 01 2011 23:24 GMT
#23
It was pillows, not WoW...
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
April 01 2011 23:37 GMT
#24
It's tragic that parents can neglect their kids to this extent. It always seems to be Blizzard games that get people to do things like this to.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
April 02 2011 03:32 GMT
#25
He could have been curing cancer, and the result would have been the same. Then this thread would be named "Curing cancer claims another childs life"... Seems to me the title was carefully crafted to provoke the anti-WoW sensationalists.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
April 02 2011 04:14 GMT
#26
Ugh, I can't believe people sometimes.

So anti-video game. While I understand that the whole thing is that WoW kept him from taking care of his child...well a not shitty parent would take care of their child. What if he was doing the dishes? What if he was getting the newspaper? The shit wouldn't be in the news, but HOLY FUCK ITS WOW and it's newsworthy.

I have a really addictive personality and I had problems leaving WoW but I never blamed WoW for my grades dropping during the time I played or anything like that. It was cause I was a moron, not because of the game.

Blargh.

One argument that I usually shove back in these kind of people's face is that...if you put out a pay-to-play game, you don't want people to play it and then stop after a month because it's not worth paying for, right? God forbid Blizzard puts out a game and they do just like any other business would do, and keep profits as high as possible. It's not like you're signing away your life to play the game or anything.
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