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Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 00:49:44
March 31 2011 08:34 GMT
#1
Sorry, I have erased my post. Thank you for all the feedback everyone!

*****
Living is easy with eyes closed.
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
March 31 2011 08:43 GMT
#2
Sounds like a great idea. Do it. Don't let anyone stop you.
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
March 31 2011 08:51 GMT
#3
On March 31 2011 17:43 jeeneeus wrote:
Sounds like a great idea. Do it. Don't let anyone stop you.


Thank you jeeneeus.. I have been working on this idea and website for the past month, many days without sleep. I will keep on keeping on!
Living is easy with eyes closed.
ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
March 31 2011 08:53 GMT
#4
Sounds like you want appreciation for having a idea without any of the hard work involved. Feel free to re-post once you do SOMETHING.
Nada got Yooned
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 23:17:21
March 31 2011 09:04 GMT
#5
Living is easy with eyes closed.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
March 31 2011 09:10 GMT
#6
Sounds like a badass idea to me. ^^
Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
March 31 2011 09:17 GMT
#7
On March 31 2011 18:04 Wiggles88 wrote:
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I have over $500 invested in the website.
I have at least 80 hours of research and work done in the past 5 weeks.
I have 4 teams who have partnered with me: tQ, REQ, tG, and Beercraft. They will all be coaches.
I have over 40 confirmed coaches already.
I have literally pulled about 6 all-nighters in the past 2 weeks on this site.
I have excel spreadsheets full of data, contacts, and graphs.
I am developing a legitimate 30+ page business plan which will be completed at the end of April as it is my final for my Entrepreneurial Finance class.

I can keep going, but I think I've already shown i'm DOING more than you think.


Sounds like you've poured quite a bit of work into this, keep it up. It's a great idea, and it'd be fantastic to see this idea come to fruition.
R.I.P. Nujabes ♫
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 09:23:58
March 31 2011 09:20 GMT
#8
Thank you Cow and SuperstaR. I'm doing this for the community and e-sports! I want to see Starcraft 2 on cable TV someday soon in the States
Living is easy with eyes closed.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
March 31 2011 09:31 GMT
#9
This sounds like a great social media/start-up idea. Good luck man =).
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1392 Posts
March 31 2011 10:04 GMT
#10
good idea! gl with it
mada mada dane
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
March 31 2011 11:00 GMT
#11
Great! Hopefully I will have some money left over for a sponsored thread on TL once the site is done. :D
Living is easy with eyes closed.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
March 31 2011 11:59 GMT
#12
Sounds like very legitimate to me; classic cut-me-in-as-middle-man business.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
March 31 2011 12:20 GMT
#13
Sounds like a very good idea, as long as you can get all those coaches :}

But you have to give a good amount of attention to the point system, since it looks like a lot will run around them.

Must have 24/7 active moderators on forum to stop spamming in order to gain points. The selling points idea sounds really nice, but I don't know if it will work since you can get them for free just by posting. I think you have to give some attention to this matter, I mean, balance how many points will be needed for a session, and how much the points will cost (if bought).

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
March 31 2011 14:30 GMT
#14
Thanks for the input guys =) Yes, the point system will be well thought-out, and I will use feedback from coaches and the community to bring it to a desirable structure.
Living is easy with eyes closed.
TheAldo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States214 Posts
March 31 2011 14:48 GMT
#15
Great idea.

Couple questions:
Are you planning to use the Chris Anderson "Free" type model where everything is free but you sell ad space and offer a premium option to get rid of ads. How much will points be worth? It is not good enough to say you are doing something for the community, you need to be able to monetize it.

Are you actually coding the website or did you outsource it?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19190 Posts
March 31 2011 15:03 GMT
#16
I've never been a fan of sites that require you to do things to regularly get what they are providing. Imagine if TL required you to post to be able to watch TSL. That would suck.

Also, one of the benefits of scheduled coaching is that a coach can learn a student quite well in terms of their strengths and weaknesses. With a random coach you'll have fairly generic advice that can't build upon previous sessions.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10837 Posts
March 31 2011 15:06 GMT
#17
Simple advise:

NEVER post about something like that before it's ready...

At best you will get compliments or at least "no flames".
At worst you your idea will get stolen and done "quicker" by a more ressourceful entity.
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
March 31 2011 15:32 GMT
#18
On April 01 2011 00:06 Velr wrote:
Simple advise:

NEVER post about something like that before it's ready...

At best you will get compliments or at least "no flames".
At worst you your idea will get stolen and done "quicker" by a more ressourceful entity.


I am near completion and will be launching soon, so I've basically waited until now to get community feedback on a public basis. Thanks for that advice Velr!
Living is easy with eyes closed.
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
March 31 2011 15:35 GMT
#19
Sounds like an awesome idea! Excited to see what comes from this.
aiuradun
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark115 Posts
March 31 2011 15:42 GMT
#20
Fine idea but stuff like this is always hard to pull off, i wish you the best of luck :-)
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
March 31 2011 15:43 GMT
#21
On April 01 2011 00:03 tofucake wrote:
I've never been a fan of sites that require you to do things to regularly get what they are providing. Imagine if TL required you to post to be able to watch TSL. That would suck.

Also, one of the benefits of scheduled coaching is that a coach can learn a student quite well in terms of their strengths and weaknesses. With a random coach you'll have fairly generic advice that can't build upon previous sessions.


tofucake,

Acquiring points through forums, polls, contests, leaving feedback, essentially being active, is not intended to be the primary way people will acquire points. It will be an incentive/award for those who do.

I agree and thank you for your advice on personalized sessions. I am working on a way for coaches and students to have repeat/private sessions as well. Also, each coach will describe their specialties which will help students when choosing a coach.
Living is easy with eyes closed.
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 15:49:09
March 31 2011 15:48 GMT
#22
On March 31 2011 23:48 TheAldo wrote:
Great idea.

Couple questions:
Are you planning to use the Chris Anderson "Free" type model where everything is free but you sell ad space and offer a premium option to get rid of ads. How much will points be worth? It is not good enough to say you are doing something for the community, you need to be able to monetize it.

Are you actually coding the website or did you outsource it?


TheAldo,

Initially, coaches will help me recover my costs. Eventually I would like to operate on primarily ad space and donations.

Points will be worth a set amount. 10 points will = $1 USD. Coaching will start at 70 points ($7) per hour. I've got it all planned out and it will be very reasonably priced, and at the same time it could very well be free because I will have many ways to acquire points besides paying =)

Top 3 coaches per month will receive bonuses, which gives them incentives to do well too!

I am both outsourcing and have friends who design.
Living is easy with eyes closed.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 31 2011 15:51 GMT
#23
How will you be choosing additional coaches? I'd be quite interested in coaching as long as the terms are reasonable.
Official Entusman #21
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 15:59:28
March 31 2011 15:58 GMT
#24
If you are interested in becoming a coach, you can send me a PM, I am still actively looking for coaches! You must be in Master or Grandmaster league however. I can provide you with more information through PM.
Living is easy with eyes closed.
TheAldo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States214 Posts
March 31 2011 16:03 GMT
#25
I'm just going to throw this against the wall.

You know how most hair salons work? You rent out the seat each month and use the tools given to you buy the hair salon to run your business (scheduling and the such). Basically the hair salon creates the infrastructure for the stylists to run an efficient business.

What about if you did a coaching site like that? Coaches pay you a percentage for using the scheduling and the rest of the infrastructure, they don't have to deal with that hassle and just have to coach.

Is that kind of what you are thinking?
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
March 31 2011 16:11 GMT
#26
On April 01 2011 01:03 TheAldo wrote:
I'm just going to throw this against the wall.

You know how most hair salons work? You rent out the seat each month and use the tools given to you buy the hair salon to run your business (scheduling and the such). Basically the hair salon creates the infrastructure for the stylists to run an efficient business.

What about if you did a coaching site like that? Coaches pay you a percentage for using the scheduling and the rest of the infrastructure, they don't have to deal with that hassle and just have to coach.

Is that kind of what you are thinking?


I wouldn't want to give everything away now would I ? To answer your question, yes.
Living is easy with eyes closed.
spacemunkee
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States51 Posts
March 31 2011 21:29 GMT
#27
Sounds like a great idea. You should get in touch with Emythrel, who runs thesc2school.com and collaborate. He's a good guy and great coach. Maybe PM him.
spacemunkee
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 21:33:48
March 31 2011 21:33 GMT
#28
Just wanted to add that while some may express concerns about your type of model here, this model has been shown to work. One web app that uses this model successfully is forrst.com. They use Acorns that can be earned by activity to allow you to invite other members or promote your projects through Forrst. You can also buy acorns. Very similar, so I would say give it a shot. The best thing about web business models is things can easily be tested and changed.


On April 01 2011 00:48 Wiggles88 wrote:
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On March 31 2011 23:48 TheAldo wrote:
Great idea.

Couple questions:
Are you planning to use the Chris Anderson "Free" type model where everything is free but you sell ad space and offer a premium option to get rid of ads. How much will points be worth? It is not good enough to say you are doing something for the community, you need to be able to monetize it.

Are you actually coding the website or did you outsource it?


TheAldo,

Initially, coaches will help me recover my costs. Eventually I would like to operate on primarily ad space and donations.

Points will be worth a set amount. 10 points will = $1 USD. Coaching will start at 70 points ($7) per hour. I've got it all planned out and it will be very reasonably priced, and at the same time it could very well be free because I will have many ways to acquire points besides paying =)

Top 3 coaches per month will receive bonuses, which gives them incentives to do well too!

I am both outsourcing and have friends who design.

ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
March 31 2011 21:45 GMT
#29
Ah! I knew it that your website would take a different direction than what you originally envisioned (or, at least you didn't tell me you wanted it to be a coaching website). Hope no one else steals your idea and makes something better
Zefa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
March 31 2011 22:10 GMT
#30
This is actually a really cool idea
TheAldo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States214 Posts
March 31 2011 23:01 GMT
#31
On April 01 2011 06:33 spacemunkee wrote:
Just wanted to add that while some may express concerns about your type of model here, this model has been shown to work. One web app that uses this model successfully is forrst.com. They use Acorns that can be earned by activity to allow you to invite other members or promote your projects through Forrst. You can also buy acorns. Very similar, so I would say give it a shot. The best thing about web business models is things can easily be tested and changed.


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On April 01 2011 00:48 Wiggles88 wrote:
On March 31 2011 23:48 TheAldo wrote:
Great idea.

Couple questions:
Are you planning to use the Chris Anderson "Free" type model where everything is free but you sell ad space and offer a premium option to get rid of ads. How much will points be worth? It is not good enough to say you are doing something for the community, you need to be able to monetize it.

Are you actually coding the website or did you outsource it?


TheAldo,

Initially, coaches will help me recover my costs. Eventually I would like to operate on primarily ad space and donations.

Points will be worth a set amount. 10 points will = $1 USD. Coaching will start at 70 points ($7) per hour. I've got it all planned out and it will be very reasonably priced, and at the same time it could very well be free because I will have many ways to acquire points besides paying =)

Top 3 coaches per month will receive bonuses, which gives them incentives to do well too!

I am both outsourcing and have friends who design.



Oh no, I wasn't really expressing concerns just curious more than anything. The only concern I would have is people abusing the system by trolling and spamming and not adding anything of worth. However do yourself a favor and don't answer how you will handle that.
Wiggles88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
March 31 2011 23:05 GMT
#32
Spacemunkee,

Thank you, I will contact Emythrel and see what opportunities may exist between us.

ggofthejungle,

Yeah, definitely. I've got it all mapped out and almost finished, just adding some final edits to the site.

Thanks Zefa!
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