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Enyalus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 06:45:20
March 29 2011 06:45 GMT
#21
Well...There's always ROOTDestiny.

;D
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
March 29 2011 06:48 GMT
#22
Do not expect a dominating zerg at this point of time. Maybe mondragon will fill the role a bit by doing his refusing to play lesser skill/known players bit. Heheh.
"Eyes in the sky."
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 29 2011 06:55 GMT
#23
On March 29 2011 14:34 Arisen wrote:
artosis plays protoss

But he used to play Zerg, and before that, he played Terran back in the Beta and in BW.

He's quite racially confused

Anyways, I also have a hard time looking for a Zerg player who has a consistent strength in ZvP compared to his other matchups. It seems that a lot of Zerg players are judged on their strength in ZvZ and ZvT, yet it is assumed that ZvP is hard for pretty much anyone, and that the players who are talented in ZvP are also quite talented in ZvZ and ZvT by comparison.

I'm sure a Zerg hero will rise up soon. Back during GSL1, when Terran mech was dominating their way through the tournament, killing off Zergs left and right, Fruitdealer became the Zerg hero with a style crafted to pummel his way through the passive meching Terrans. Likewise, Nestea took up the reigns as the new Zerg hero in GSL2 when he had remarkably consistent play all the way to the finals, especially in ZvZ.

I predict that the next Zerg GSL champion will have our long-awaited Zerg revolution in ZvP, for he must be able to defeat the almighty MC and other scary Protoss before being crowned champion.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 29 2011 06:57 GMT
#24
Watch Sen vs Naniwa.

+ Show Spoiler +
You thought Mondragon's roach vs Protoss air was new? Rofl. Also, Naniwa is a top top PvZ player. Far more indicative, (and far better series) than Mondragon vs Zeerax.
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Enyalus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States135 Posts
March 29 2011 07:15 GMT
#25
On March 29 2011 15:57 cascades wrote:
Watch Sen vs Naniwa.

+ Show Spoiler +
You thought Mondragon's roach vs Protoss air was new? Rofl. Also, Naniwa is a top top PvZ player. Far more indicative, (and far better series) than Mondragon vs Zeerax.


What tournament was that so I can look it up? I've been loving Sen's ZvP.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
March 29 2011 07:29 GMT
#26
Idra legitimately played bad in game 1 though. Idra knows as well as anyone that you can't let protoss macro off 3 base. Yet he sat back and let protoss take a 3rd base. If zerg sees protoss taking a 3rd, he has to keep all-in ing protoss until one of them loses. That's just how the game works. But idra took the whole map instead and that just doesn't work.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
March 29 2011 07:38 GMT
#27
Look up to a real zerg player not one of these egotistical maniacs like idra. The strength of zerg players are their decision making, IdrA's weakest point, and its too bad Jaedeong doesn't play sc2 but I would follow mondragon or sen.
MC's strength: confidence weakness: over confidence
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
March 29 2011 07:50 GMT
#28
On March 29 2011 16:29 T.O.P. wrote:
Idra legitimately played bad in game 1 though. Idra knows as well as anyone that you can't let protoss macro off 3 base. Yet he sat back and let protoss take a 3rd base. If zerg sees protoss taking a 3rd, he has to keep all-in ing protoss until one of them loses. That's just how the game works. But idra took the whole map instead and that just doesn't work.


You mean you wanted Idra to throw away a 300-food army in to two terrible chokes and then let the Protoss ball destroy what little he had left? There was no way Idra was going to break him in game 1. Cruncher was turtled up as perfect as can be. His deathball in the middle of his base nullified any drops and he was close enough to his 2nd/3rd base to just walk over there if he saw the Zerg approach.
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 29 2011 08:34 GMT
#29
On March 29 2011 16:29 T.O.P. wrote:
Idra legitimately played bad in game 1 though. Idra knows as well as anyone that you can't let protoss macro off 3 base. Yet he sat back and let protoss take a 3rd base. If zerg sees protoss taking a 3rd, he has to keep all-in ing protoss until one of them loses. That's just how the game works. But idra took the whole map instead and that just doesn't work.


I think that says so much about why I and others want a dominant zerg to come out. I think it speeks volumes about how much we NEED someone to show us how to do it if you CAN'T let a protoss get three bases. How sad is that? 3 bases means you win? I refuse to believe that you NEED to all in to win just because the protoss decides to take three bases, there has to be some way to fight the end game ball, because if there isn't, then Zerg vs Protoss will forever be a bad matchup (until maybe hots). It just seems unfair if that is the case, that you can't play a macro style, you have to all in and hope you get lucky and the protoss plays greedy.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 29 2011 09:17 GMT
#30
On March 29 2011 16:15 Enyalus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 15:57 cascades wrote:
Watch Sen vs Naniwa.

+ Show Spoiler +
You thought Mondragon's roach vs Protoss air was new? Rofl. Also, Naniwa is a top top PvZ player. Far more indicative, (and far better series) than Mondragon vs Zeerax.


What tournament was that so I can look it up? I've been loving Sen's ZvP.


GCPL Grand Finals.
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Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 13:39:29
March 29 2011 13:38 GMT
#31
I feel the same way. I've always been an IdrA fan simply because I liked his intelligence, coupled with skill and cockiness. You're allowed (e.g. MC) to be cocky as long as you produce results, imo. IdrA still has the most refined game mechanics I know and when he gets things his way, he is neigh unstoppable, but he is so fragile to the tiniest shift in mental advantage. I don't think I've ever seen IdrA come back from a bad position.

I still think a hard practicing IdrA who adopts and experiments with "new" play-styles could revolutionize Zerg. God, I hope he does.

I need a hero!
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
May 07 2011 18:12 GMT
#32
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Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
May 07 2011 18:14 GMT
#33
Idra and sheth have monster stream views during the middle of the day they both can get 16k+ viewers.

I think most people want a zerg to do well since they have been the weak race since the release of sc2
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Fleebenworth
Profile Joined April 2011
463 Posts
May 12 2011 02:36 GMT
#34
On May 08 2011 03:14 Zeroes wrote:I think most people want a zerg to do well since they have been the weak race since the release of sc2


Where do you people get this stuff? Zerg are just now beginning to experiment and regularly avoid themselves of the tactical and strategic options afforded by things like nydus and drop play.
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