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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 04:14:59
March 22 2011 04:13 GMT
#1
I started browsing this site in 2007. Back then there would be like max 1000 people 'logged in' and maybe twice that 'active.' I started watching loads of starcraft for the next 2 years, wrote a bunch, and got to know who the big names were around these parts.

I joined Writers in 2009, and wrote for 2 MSL seasons to go with my 3 TLFEs. I look around the forums now, and I don't know anybody who is posting in the odd thread. I browse through writers to see if there's anything I can help out with, and all I see are new pens who I've not worked with before. Even Plexa's gone. Never thought I would outlast him.

When I was first here, we had baby blue horsies at the top, there wasn't a main page but just more like a blog layout, there were no user streams or TSLs. We had liquibition and TL.net Attack and we liked it dammit. Day[9] was only known to a few people, and yeah, sAviOr was still hot shit. I even survived the tdot years. The site has come a long way, and the community too. It's still the best place out there for anything starcraft, and I have nothing but praise for all the staff and all of that. Its more like I just don't quite feel like I fit in here anymore.

Oh well. There's always RL.

****
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
March 22 2011 04:16 GMT
#2
I've read a couple of your FE's, they were exceedingly good. ^o^

Maybe you should start doing regular writing again, get the juices flowing. C:
oyoyo
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 22 2011 04:18 GMT
#3
I've always considered myself "new to the scene" because I didn't start following Brood War until 2008, it still weirds me out when I find out there I know more about BW history than some of the newer staff members.

You know it was only a year, maybe 14 months ago that it was a huge deal when 5k were active on TL (during OSL finals). We had more than that logged in yesterday. Crazy.

If you ever want to write drop me a line, you will always have a place!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
March 22 2011 04:28 GMT
#4
On March 22 2011 13:16 palookieblue wrote:
I've read a couple of your FE's, they were exceedingly good. ^o^

Maybe you should start doing regular writing again, get the juices flowing. C:


Thanks .

It's not that I wouldn't, it's the time committment to watching the games, knowing the scene and all of that. I have stopped following regularly, and to hop back on the track I think would take an enormous amount of effort before I could write knowledgably on it all. If I did contribute anything, and I've thought about it, it would probably another FE dealing more generally with things I know about. On the other hand, getting back in the groove is appealing.

On March 22 2011 13:18 heyoka wrote:
I've always considered myself "new to the scene" because I didn't start following Brood War until 2008, it still weirds me out when I find out there I know more about BW history than some of the newer staff members.

You know it was only a year, maybe 14 months ago that it was a huge deal when 5k were active on TL (during OSL finals). We had more than that logged in yesterday. Crazy.

If you ever want to write drop me a line, you will always have a place!


I'm in the same boat. Even back in '09 it felt like everybody else knew more than I did, then the floodgates opened.

I saw the logged in and active numbers for the TSL broadcast and my eyes bugged out of my head. I couldn'tve dreamed of those numbers back in '08 when I joined.

Thanks. I may come back to give a crack at the first SC2 TLFE, but it would be more general because I find it insane to try and follow the scene because it's so spread out. Then again, I was always criticized for writing poetry instead of facts...

Btw never got a chance to congratulate you on your red. So congrats . The writing staff is better for it.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 22 2011 04:32 GMT
#5
A SC2 TLFE? I wonder what topic that could be written on.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 22 2011 04:43 GMT
#6
It's like a writers' party in here.
TranslatorBaa!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 04:44:23
March 22 2011 04:43 GMT
#7
It's like a big reminiscing party for all the writers in here.

Damn you csheep!
twitch.tv/cratonz
Bajadulce
Profile Joined October 2004
United States322 Posts
March 22 2011 04:45 GMT
#8
As a luke warm member for 5+ years as well, this site has just gotten crazy crazy HUGE. It's really quite mindboggling. What appeals most to me about TL.net is how many different countries are represented and how refreshing it is to hear views about any particular subject from all corners of the globe.

At the same time, it's rather disheartening to see a new topic get swallowed up by a swarm of new stuff within an hour only to forever disappear to the archives. I don't know if its possible to "post too much", but seems that some users on this forum are crazed fanatics with hundreds of posts a month that just add to the staggering numbers of posts and topics.



Planar Erratus: (www.broodwarai.com/mods/peai) Where the worlds of Baldur’s Gate, Arcanum, Diablo, Icewind Dale, Torment, and Warcraft collide with Starcraft. Don't question, just play! ... Dedicated to all my TL.net friends and old schoolers!
IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 04:48:28
March 22 2011 04:47 GMT
#9
On March 22 2011 13:13 Arrian wrote:
I started browsing this site in 2007. Back then there would be like max 1000 people 'logged in' and maybe twice that 'active.' I started watching loads of starcraft for the next 2 years, wrote a bunch, and got to know who the big names were around these parts.


I was modding Brood War since 1999. Modding died out in 2002ish but I continued my work all the way until 2009 where I released my final BW project. Since then I have moved away from Blizzard games and every time I look back to my old work I think "wow, I've gotten old". I'm only 23, but I was doing voice acting and all that back when I was like 12-13. Puts things in perspective, really.

All of the websites that were associated with Starcraft modding even 4 years ago are all long dead now. I wish TL had been a part of that world, because TL is the only SC site out of all the ones I've been a part of that has any grasp over how to manage a forum and keep the site itself polished and updated.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
March 22 2011 04:48 GMT
#10
man the days of old TL are over.

i remember back when the strategy forum was actually really good. Chibi was always getting banned for some borderline pedophile crap. Hotbid would be cooking up another big troll thread. Frozenarbiter somehow had time to post in almost every thread and have something good to say. Motlkeywarding would come into some political thread 15 pages in and rape the shit out of it. Religion threads were 30 pages long. Baal thought he was the most badass motherfucker ever. Normal money vs fastest money discussion. then all the regulars GrandInquisitor, Manifesto, Nazgul, BigBalls, thedeadhaji, GTR, Fakesteve, Plexa, Incontrol, Leg, Midian, Rekrul etc lol

the days when there were no streams and i would F5 in the live report thread. the days of reach nalra boxer kingdom gorush nada iloveoov july savior then all the fuckin awesome highlight videos that came out every year. fuck


so many new guys around TL now and the old ones left =(
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 22 2011 04:50 GMT
#11
Funny, I kinda feel like a poser talking about BW having only discovered the pro scene in 2010 Maybe the start of a new generation?
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
March 22 2011 04:50 GMT
#12
I totally see what you mean, although I still feel like a new member around here. I would love to see another TLFE by you Arrian
Writer
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 04:55:03
March 22 2011 04:51 GMT
#13
haha, TL is changing that's for sure...
it's definitely moving in a better direction with all the additions of tlpd/tlfe's, modernizing the front page/layout, official writer/graphics/liquipedia teams etc. The main thing i miss from the old TL is just being able to recognize people in threads and being actually able to keep up with the whole forum ^_^ now, i retreated to a few key areas (hon/dota, health&fitness, blogs) and that is my TL now i almost completely ignore sc2 forums and such

back in myyyyyy day we had no silly race icons beside names!!!!1 now get off my lawn you rascals

edit: who's up for a blast from the past?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=5
Bam.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
March 22 2011 04:57 GMT
#14
I remember when Rekrul was an admin. That was funny.

I do like the big new scene though. Watching TSL last couple of days, I can't believe I watched it live with almost 40,000 people. That's like a full stadium on European soccer nights. Makes me go WOW
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 22 2011 05:26 GMT
#15
If you want to help out with writers then you could always write for MSL.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
March 22 2011 05:31 GMT
#16
i feel pretty old too
Commentator
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
March 22 2011 05:37 GMT
#17
I sometimes feel really new, having joined in early 2010.

Then I look at the SC2 forum and think to myself "wtf I can't keep up with these youngsters at all"
Translator:3
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 05:40:10
March 22 2011 05:38 GMT
#18
its funny that I was one of those people who got into bw proscene because of klazart, which is sorta like being one of those people who got into sc2 because of hd and husky.

I remember bisu v savior msl and then hating flash when he cheesed bisu twice in a row out of osl

i also pretty much never posted first 3 years because I had nothing important or valuable to contribute and I was scared to ruin the prestine gosu environment of tl.net, but then sc2 came and the trash that I have to say is no worse than the trash that 99% of people have to say
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 05:39:18
March 22 2011 05:38 GMT
#19
On March 22 2011 14:31 GTR wrote:
i feel pretty old too

YOU ARE!
at least compared to 2005 when i first started o notice your posts

@ topic:
TL.net was the 3rd major community page i joined (after a german quake 3 site and a german warcraft 3 site). It feels ages since i played my first cs clanwar in early 2000 and i still remember playing war3 beta and massing skeletons.
But i know what you mean. Since i started focusing on my RL, my posts/week dropped significantly. Not that this is a bad thing ...


/edit:
Hipster comment:
I watched OSL when it was still sponsored BY GILLETTE!
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
March 22 2011 05:43 GMT
#20
I feel like a child now having only discovered TL less than a year ago. ._.
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