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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 05:55:34
February 13 2011 05:53 GMT
#1
I didn't even know Blizzard allowed you to join matchmaking FFA games with your friends. Just played with ActTwo and SwiPht and they decided to take turns attacking me. One even blatantly defends another when I'm about to kill the other. I didn't even know any of this the time, but they proceed to try and troll me hard after. How sad is this and why does Blizzard allow this?

Edit: I knew they were teammates because their profiles showed they had team games together.

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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 05:57:00
February 13 2011 05:56 GMT
#2
It's because FFA games are unranked and thus, in the eyes of most players, irrelevant and "not the real game." Or in other words, nobody cares.

And I mean that in the nicest way possible- I'm not trying to insult you or your hobbies.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 06:04:13
February 13 2011 06:03 GMT
#3
I don't play FFA competitively but I don't want to waste my time either. Noone "cares" about a game of pick-up ball either, but noone would appreciate you passing to your friend on the other team.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 13 2011 06:06 GMT
#4
Doesn't teaming make the game more interesting? There's no 1v2 ladder, so you'll have to resort to FFAs where people team up. There's no better way to bm than beat people 1v2.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 13 2011 06:13 GMT
#5
You can't queue as a party for FFA. They just queued at the same time and were lucky enough to get in the same game.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 06:24:26
February 13 2011 06:24 GMT
#6
All FFAs result in a large amount of luck. You lose some because you get unlucky, but you win some because you get lucky so stop complaining.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 06:46:58
February 13 2011 06:46 GMT
#7
I played against these two also. It was pretty funny. I lost in the end though =/

Its unranked for a reason though.
Jaedong :3
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
February 13 2011 06:49 GMT
#8
blizzard allows it because they honestly don't care about something unranked and is there for fun
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
February 13 2011 06:52 GMT
#9
On February 13 2011 15:03 jacosajh wrote:
I don't play FFA competitively but I don't want to waste my time either. Noone "cares" about a game of pick-up ball either, but noone would appreciate you passing to your friend on the other team.

There aren't teams in FFA, so you're analogy isn't accurate. There are only individuals. If there were two teams, helping the other would be directly hurting yourself. But since there are 4 individuals, helping your friend is still beneficial to yourself.

Diplomacy is a part of FFA, I guess. (I don't play any FFA. I think the only reason most people play it is for achievements.)
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
February 13 2011 07:20 GMT
#10
i believe it's called diplomacy.

that's one reason among many that i don't play ffa. i'm not playing a game so i have to deal with making social interaction with other people!
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
-{Cake}-
Profile Joined October 2010
United States217 Posts
February 13 2011 07:38 GMT
#11
If they were clearly teaming, you should have said something to the fourth guy and turned it into a 2v2? Or you could have just left if you didn't want to bother with them?
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 08:09:57
February 13 2011 08:05 GMT
#12
On February 13 2011 15:52 Enervate wrote:
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On February 13 2011 15:03 jacosajh wrote:
I don't play FFA competitively but I don't want to waste my time either. Noone "cares" about a game of pick-up ball either, but noone would appreciate you passing to your friend on the other team.

There aren't teams in FFA, so you're analogy isn't accurate. There are only individuals. If there were two teams, helping the other would be directly hurting yourself. But since there are 4 individuals, helping your friend is still beneficial to yourself.

Diplomacy is a part of FFA, I guess. (I don't play any FFA. I think the only reason most people play it is for achievements.)


Do you know what an analogy is? It's something that's like something, but not all the way. I hate when people say, "your analogy is not accurate" when they are, in fact, the ones incorrect. If an analogy was something that was exactly like something, it wouldn't be an analogy. It would be what it is. It would be a definition or synonym. So yes, my analogy was accurate because it depicts an unfair advantage by two people on opposite teams because they play in a way that the game was not intended to be played. Does it describe 100% the unfair advantage like it does in SC2 FFA? No, that's why it's an analogy. Otherwise, I could have said the obvious, but that defeats the purpose of an analogy, doesn't it?

BTW, it's "your" analogy, not "you're" analogy. It isn't cool when people pick on something you say for no apparent reason, is it? Especially when you're wrong. Ok, I'll stop being rude now.

And, no, this is completely different than Diplomacy. It doesn't even compare. When you join an FFA game beforehand, with the intentions to not attack each, that's not diplomacy. That's just FFA abuse. Sure, it's unranked, but it definitely ruins the fun for people.

I'm NOT just assuming they were friends beforehand. They have hundreds (I think, can't really count them all) of games played with each other ladder in 2v2 and 3v3, and as soon as I left (the other already left), they immediately started trolling me and asked to 1v1, meaning they left the game right away. Obviously, they had no intention of even fighting each other. I told them to give me a second to fix my lag, but they dodged/ignored. Obviously, they had no intention of starting a 1v1 either.

I didn't know until after the game that they were friends when I checked their profiles, and they left ended the game without fighting each other. That's why I didn't just leave.
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
February 13 2011 08:09 GMT
#13
You can't join FFA as a team, however there are so few players playing FFA that if you and your friend started searching for a match at the same time it will pare you up in the same game.

I've done it in the past, nice way to farm for achievements.
@
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
February 13 2011 08:11 GMT
#14
OT but does anyone else find Protoss to be the strongest in FFA?
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
February 13 2011 08:11 GMT
#15
well what happens in the end? does one person just leave? obviously somebody has to win.

teaming happens all the time even when the teaming players don't know each other if a well known player is playing.
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
February 13 2011 08:51 GMT
#16
not much you can do about teaming, if you realise they are teaming up on you (very obviously, like marines lings outside your ramp and they don't fight each other) then you should just leave immediately, you have 0 chance of winning. then add them to friends so you can search at different times, saves yourself some hassle
SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
February 13 2011 09:06 GMT
#17
also you can block people, if you do not want the to harass you...
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 13 2011 09:54 GMT
#18
has this happened more than 2 games? every ffa i joined ended in me killing at least 2 of the opponents. even when i started with 3 cannon rushes on the same player i had 1 drooler who didn't make more than 5 marines and the other was too passive and inferior and attacked the guy i cannon rushed anyways
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On February 13 2011 17:05 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 15:52 Enervate wrote:
On February 13 2011 15:03 jacosajh wrote:
I don't play FFA competitively but I don't want to waste my time either. Noone "cares" about a game of pick-up ball either, but noone would appreciate you passing to your friend on the other team.

There aren't teams in FFA, so you're analogy isn't accurate. There are only individuals. If there were two teams, helping the other would be directly hurting yourself. But since there are 4 individuals, helping your friend is still beneficial to yourself.

Diplomacy is a part of FFA, I guess. (I don't play any FFA. I think the only reason most people play it is for achievements.)

I hate when people say, "your analogy is not accurate" when they are, in fact, the ones incorrect.


grammar train choo chooooo
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
February 14 2011 06:23 GMT
#19
and people STILL want ranked FFA? this is probably the one of the biggest problems that come to mind.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
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