• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:24
CEST 10:24
KST 17:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 24ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon275.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes33Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon HomeStory Cup In Early July 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 HomeStory Cup 29 Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch First season(s) of tastosis gomtv gsl vods? BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered?
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4631 users

EGIdrA: Don't Get Cute with Me

Blogs > gods_basement
Post a Reply
Normal
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
February 04 2011 22:31 GMT
#1
Idra has always been a fan of solid, reliable play. He thinks that true skill is in accurate decisions and dependable builds. He hates the element of luck and loathes people who depend on it. This is why Idra is not a poker player. This is why he is the most (second most?) fearsome Zerg in the world right now.

I think the greatest testament to Idra's solid play is his recent performance in the GSL Code S RO16. Here, he faced three top-level players who went for very unconventional builds. Here, we got to see IdrA's preparation, accurate decisions, and solid builds in action. You see that Idra has a solid reactions to any scenario, and is not a one-trick pony. Without further ado, I bring you:

[image loading]


Game 1: TSL_Clide [T1] vs EGIdrA [T7]
In game one on Xel'naga Caverns, Idra spawns in the south. Clide was Tastosis's favorite to win in many a GSL, so surely he will be a formidible opponent.
Nervous about abuse of Cavern's wide natural, Idra opts for quick speed, while Clide, hoping to abuse Caverns' wide natural, opens 2-rax. Idra delays speed to start his natural at 21, and moments later Clide's first marines push from the watchtower. Clide realizes that his rush will be ineffective versus pool first, so he pulls back, starts two refineries and a command center.

Clide gets a factory with reactor, and begins hellion pressure just as Idra starts his spire. Between the 10 Zerglings made to defend the 2rax and the hellion pressure, Idra is unable to drone as much as he would like, and finds himself undersaturated as mutas pop. Clide's expo is almost fully operational at this point.

[image loading]
1.1 A cute push

Clide moves out with seven marines, six mauraders, and seven hellions, trying to severely damage the Zerg before mutas pop, but he misses his timing, losing all his marines without killing a single mutalisk. However, the attack is still quite successful, as a majority of Idra's Zerglings were slaughtered, Clide executes a beautiful army split. The marauders stim and kill the queen while the remaining hellions kill about 10 drones. Clide ends the attack with 45 scvs; Idra with 28 drones. The game is all but over; Idra has one attack to win the game. Or so I thought.

[image loading]
1.2: The end goal of all hellion openings

The only reason Clide did not win at this moment was because he was overconfident. He only made a couple of turrets and a bunker to defend. He produced Marauders to strengthen his next push, instead of making marines to defend. Idra masterfully exploits the holes in Clide's defense, killing the undefended marines rallied from the barracks. He continuously snipes the SCVs building turrets, and sends in his Zerglings. Clide's mental state begins to fall apart.

However, this attack was not an all-in, and instead, a reflection of the Gracken's brilliance. Behind this attack, Idra had produced over a dozen drones, expanded to his third, and started a baneling nest. Clide's production buildings begin to burn and explode, just as the mutalisk cloud grows to a gruesome throng of membranous wings. Idra continues to abuse the mutalisk's strength with micro reminiscent of Brood War (everything except stacking). Idra retreats to begin heavy droning; Clyde is nearly mined mined out in his main, with only a few barracks and less than a dozen marines.

[image loading]
1.3: Mutas are powerful when they outnumber marines

Clide's only chance is to take the gold, and he knows it. However, Idra sees Clide's army attacking the rocks, and sends Zerg swarm to crash down on his opponent's head.

[image loading]
1.3: Most of Clide's army is in this shot; Idra's army doesn’t fit on the screen

Idra sips his Gatorade like he never feared losing, and Clide asks himself what happened.

[image loading]
1.4: DGAF at its finest

Game 2: EGIdrA [Z1] vs NsPGenius [P7]
Idra's next opponent is Genius opens with a forge expand as Idra opens 15-hatch. Just kidding about the expand part; Genius creates an enclosed space by warping 3 pylons, and warps in 2 cannons in the middle. Idra cancels his hatchery, and Genius cancels one cannon.

[image loading]
2.1: Cute building placement

Idra expands to 3 o'clock and builds a roach warren. Genius, confidant that Idra would sit back and macro, relied on 1 cannon to defend his natural; but instead, Idra built 6 roaches to siege the front. The initial cannon falls, then the nexus soon follows. Eventually, enough cannons finish that Idra is forced to retreat, but Genius is miles behind. He has so many minerals sunk into defending a dead nexus, and Idra has started his lair.

[image loading]
2.2: Inadequate Defenses

Genius transitions into a 4gate attack while expanding, but the attack is thwarted by Idra's many units. Genius warps in cannons to defend, but the loss of thousands of minerals, catches up to him, and he is steamrolled by Idra's roaches. Genius tries to defend with a hero void ray, but fails and types out.

[image loading]
2.3: Too little, too late

Idra, emotionless as always, without fear and doubt, sips more Gatorade. These games already belonged to him; he just had yet to claim his win.

[image loading]
2.4: Cracking knuckles only to match the leather gracket


Game 3: oGsNaDa [T6] vs EGIdrA [Z3]
Idra's final game is a sure to be an exhilarating finale. He gets to close out the group against his idol, oGsNaDa. They spawn close south positions on Metalopolis. Nada opens with a standard 12-rax 13-gas, and Idra opens hatch-first. Idra's scouting drone is thwarted by a wall-off, and IdrA is forced to play blind. Nada pushes with 2 marines, kills 2 drones, and retreats just as the Zerglings pop.

Idra, still unaware of Nada's plans, starts a roach den to be safe. His zerglings see a reactor on the barracks, so he cancels the den for a Baneling Nest, fearing the marine all-in, but Nada has other plans. Dark, sinister, at times, even cute plans. Nada takes his second gas and builds a fast Thor and medivac, and opts for a Thor drop. Nada drop the Thor on the ledge overlooking the ramp, but Idra executes a beautiful Zergling surround on the Thor, and Queens target the medivac. Nada's harass is over as soon as it began, and he is forced to retreat. During this attack, IdrA did not lose a single unit.

[image loading]
3.1: How to defend Thor drops

Nada decides not to expand, and knows that he has one timing to deal some damage to the Zerg. He pushes out with his 2 medivacs, airlifting 2 Thors, and a handful of SCVs and marines. Idra has a baneling nest, but has only started morphing as Nada pushes out. The queens delay for just enough time, and the banelings come in to save the day. The banelings deal maximum damage and Nada is forced to lift his Thors home.

[image loading]
3.2.1: An army…
3.2.2: …is met by banelings…
3.2.3: …and is sent home crying.


Nada regroups, repairs and pushes immediately. He attempts some cute micro, but Idra just has too many units. After losing all his Thors, Nada concedes the game.

[image loading]
3.3: An insurmountable lead

This time, IdrA had a little bit of a smirk on his face. After all, he had just crushed one of the most successful progamers of all time.

[image loading]

Idra doesn’t have time for silly games where you hope and pray that your build can outwit him, because you can't. He has time for the long games, but you will probably lose those too. So let this be a warning to you cheesy noobs out there. You have a cool build? A nice rush timing? You think that you've got what it takes to take a win off of Idra? Do you know what Idra would say?
[image loading]

He'd say bring it. He would kick your nooby little ass. And he has enough APM that he can tell you exactly how retarded you are as he does it.


****
(TT~TT)
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 04 2011 22:46 GMT
#2
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5
you are perfect porcelain.
Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
February 04 2011 22:50 GMT
#3
Whew, that's one huge mancrush you got there. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but it almost makes your write-up sound biased! /sarcasm

You have to tip the hat to the foreigners bad boy of choice. Nice write-up, enjoyed it.
It's the least I can do.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 04 2011 22:56 GMT
#4
I still can't believe he won agianst Clide, he was the clear favorite in all GSL's so far.
I think esports is pretty nice.
D1pstick
Profile Joined October 2010
United States106 Posts
February 04 2011 23:14 GMT
#5
After watching that MVP vs IdrA game (on stream)

+ Show Spoiler +
I feel confident IdrA can take the GSL this time


IdrA FIGHTING!
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
February 04 2011 23:15 GMT
#6
On February 05 2011 07:46 Raeleigh wrote:
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5


Every zerg loses early game quite often lol
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
February 04 2011 23:16 GMT
#7
Thanks so much for the write-up! Very good read, looking forward to more from you, though obviously biased I too am a fan of Idra.
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 04 2011 23:22 GMT
#8
On February 05 2011 08:15 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 07:46 Raeleigh wrote:
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5


Every zerg loses early game quite often lol

Oh trust me, I know. My boyfriend could rival IdrA with the stuff I hear after he loses from an early game rush. I daresay, it entertains me when I'm half asleep in bed at 4am and he's gettin' mad. (If you see this, I'm sorry. LOL.)

Idk. My boyfriend says Hydra's should be a Tier 1 unit. I almost agree at times.
you are perfect porcelain.
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
February 04 2011 23:59 GMT
#9
Amazing writeup, I loved how the pictures and the animated gif fit with the story and flowed so nicely. Well Done!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Deltawolf
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States105 Posts
February 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#10
On February 05 2011 08:14 D1pstick wrote:
After watching that MVP vs IdrA game (on stream)

+ Show Spoiler +
I feel confident IdrA can take the GSL this time


IdrA FIGHTING!


It was insane, I loved it :D He is flawless when he is in the zone.
* Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
February 05 2011 00:04 GMT
#11
Unless you're Jinro or Choyafou (stream), where 2 bunkers or 3 pylons is enough to make him leave (and 7 pool you the next game).
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 00:13:54
February 05 2011 00:09 GMT
#12
Idra kicking korean butt? what is happening in this world, SC 1 he was practically just a low B-team toilet scrubbing nobody, now in SC2 idra the killshit.
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
February 05 2011 00:25 GMT
#13
believe it or not, i'm not as much as an idra fanboy as this might seem. i wanted to write a recap of some games, so i thought it would be interesting to describe idra's games, because i like his playstyle and i havent seen these games yet. this was simply the narrative that was most fitting, but thanks for all the support! i will no doubt write more in the future.
(TT~TT)
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
February 05 2011 02:18 GMT
#14
great coverage!
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
February 05 2011 03:01 GMT
#15
what i like about idra is that he's not playing the rock-scissors-paper game ... instead he tries his best to come up with motherfucking chuck norris roundhouse kick which beats all three ...

Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
February 05 2011 06:34 GMT
#16
yea he does play a heavy macro game, but small tiny maps screw him over big time, as with just about any zerg
North Korea is best Korea!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 05 2011 06:42 GMT
#17
IdrA fighting!!

<3 how IdrA plays this game
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
February 05 2011 08:42 GMT
#18
On February 05 2011 09:09 MarineHeroSamKhan wrote:
Idra kicking korean butt? what is happening in this world, SC 1 he was practically just a low B-team toilet scrubbing nobody, now in SC2 idra the killshit.

Well to be fair, most of the top Koreans in SC2 were B-teamers or didn't keep up with the raising skill cap (Boxer, Nada, etc.).

IdrA's my idol. Watching him play is like looking at a better reflection of my play. Good solid builds and good mechanics.
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
February 05 2011 13:02 GMT
#19
On February 05 2011 08:14 D1pstick wrote:
After watching that MVP vs IdrA game (on stream)

+ Show Spoiler +
I feel confident IdrA can take the GSL this time


IdrA FIGHTING!

VoD's or it never happnd!! Oh please I need to see this NOW!

Also, loved the write-up! But just thought I should add that NaDa just went for a cute strat in an inconsequential match so that he cud hide his better strats for later.

NaDa>Everyone else.
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
February 05 2011 18:48 GMT
#20
On February 05 2011 08:22 Raeleigh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 08:15 SubtleArt wrote:
On February 05 2011 07:46 Raeleigh wrote:
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5


Every zerg loses early game quite often lol

Oh trust me, I know. My boyfriend could rival IdrA with the stuff I hear after he loses from an early game rush. I daresay, it entertains me when I'm half asleep in bed at 4am and he's gettin' mad. (If you see this, I'm sorry. LOL.)

Idk. My boyfriend says Hydra's should be a Tier 1 unit. I almost agree at times.

Tier 1.5 might be nice, but their hp would have to be reduced. *cough* Broodwar *cough*
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 05 2011 20:27 GMT
#21
On February 06 2011 03:48 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 08:22 Raeleigh wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:15 SubtleArt wrote:
On February 05 2011 07:46 Raeleigh wrote:
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5


Every zerg loses early game quite often lol

Oh trust me, I know. My boyfriend could rival IdrA with the stuff I hear after he loses from an early game rush. I daresay, it entertains me when I'm half asleep in bed at 4am and he's gettin' mad. (If you see this, I'm sorry. LOL.)

Idk. My boyfriend says Hydra's should be a Tier 1 unit. I almost agree at times.

Tier 1.5 might be nice, but their hp would have to be reduced. *cough* Broodwar *cough*

Haha, yeah. Seems like a fair trade, tbh.
you are perfect porcelain.
JiSu
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 21:42:07
February 05 2011 21:40 GMT
#22
Haha he has a nice APM that he can kick people ass in sc2? Why don't he go back to BW and see how many ass he can kick in Korea? I'm sure all the progamers in BW scene will wreck his shit.

I'm not an IdrA's fan really because he thinks he is the best when really dude, you aren't. Some people can think that they are the best and even if they lose, they still get respect and people still think they are the best because really, they have accomplished a lot in the progame scene. What the hell has this guy accomplished besides being in CJENTUS for BW and code S in SC2? That does not make you the best.. sure you might be one of the best foreigners. But what the hell does that mean anything? It's like saying you're one of the best white players in basketball. Yeah, that's cool. With that said, when you lose to noob builds like early push, you should at least say gg instead of bashing on your opponents when you clearly lost. Plus, this guy does all the nooby builds a lot too.. roach push drone rush smh

Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
February 05 2011 21:42 GMT
#23
Great post bud.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 05 2011 22:18 GMT
#24
Cool strawman dude.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 05 2011 23:01 GMT
#25
On February 06 2011 06:40 JiSu wrote:
Haha he has a nice APM that he can kick people ass in sc2? Why don't he go back to BW and see how many ass he can kick in Korea? I'm sure all the progamers in BW scene will wreck his shit.

I'm not an IdrA's fan really because he thinks he is the best when really dude, you aren't. Some people can think that they are the best and even if they lose, they still get respect and people still think they are the best because really, they have accomplished a lot in the progame scene. What the hell has this guy accomplished besides being in CJENTUS for BW and code S in SC2? That does not make you the best.. sure you might be one of the best foreigners. But what the hell does that mean anything? It's like saying you're one of the best white players in basketball. Yeah, that's cool. With that said, when you lose to noob builds like early push, you should at least say gg instead of bashing on your opponents when you clearly lost. Plus, this guy does all the nooby builds a lot too.. roach push drone rush smh



Yeah and what has Pau Gasol accomplished other than being a starter for the Lakers? What a newbie, that guy cannon rushed me and then left without a gg
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
February 05 2011 23:08 GMT
#26
On February 06 2011 05:27 Raeleigh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 03:48 Gummy wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:22 Raeleigh wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:15 SubtleArt wrote:
On February 05 2011 07:46 Raeleigh wrote:
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5


Every zerg loses early game quite often lol

Oh trust me, I know. My boyfriend could rival IdrA with the stuff I hear after he loses from an early game rush. I daresay, it entertains me when I'm half asleep in bed at 4am and he's gettin' mad. (If you see this, I'm sorry. LOL.)

Idk. My boyfriend says Hydra's should be a Tier 1 unit. I almost agree at times.

Tier 1.5 might be nice, but their hp would have to be reduced. *cough* Broodwar *cough*

Haha, yeah. Seems like a fair trade, tbh.


This is not a balance thread, so take it elsewhere. I would really hate it if this thread became the battleground of the hive minds that lurk sc2strategy thanks for understanding

On February 06 2011 06:40 JiSu wrote:
Haha he has a nice APM that he can kick people ass in sc2? Why don't he go back to BW and see how many ass he can kick in Korea? I'm sure all the progamers in BW scene will wreck his shit.

+ Show Spoiler [nice rant] +

I'm not an IdrA's fan really because he thinks he is the best when really dude, you aren't. Some people can think that they are the best and even if they lose, they still get respect and people still think they are the best because really, they have accomplished a lot in the progame scene. What the hell has this guy accomplished besides being in CJENTUS for BW and code S in SC2? That does not make you the best.. sure you might be one of the best foreigners. But what the hell does that mean anything? It's like saying you're one of the best white players in basketball. Yeah, that's cool. With that said, when you lose to noob builds like early push, you should at least say gg instead of bashing on your opponents when you clearly lost. Plus, this guy does all the nooby builds a lot too.. roach push drone rush smh




Did you even read? Did you even bother looking anything at all before scrolling down to "inform" me of how wrong i am? This is also not the debate the goodness of IdrA. this was a recap of his RO16 games, where, in my opinion, he performed marvelously. Take it elsewhere.

I thank you for reading, and I love that it is sparking discussion, but I put a lot of hard work in this and I don't want even the possibility of it being derailed. So as such, future posters that I feel threaten the future of this thread will be banned. Thanks for understanding!
(TT~TT)
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 23:18:23
February 05 2011 23:17 GMT
#27
On February 06 2011 08:08 gods_basement wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 05:27 Raeleigh wrote:
On February 06 2011 03:48 Gummy wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:22 Raeleigh wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:15 SubtleArt wrote:
On February 05 2011 07:46 Raeleigh wrote:
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5


Every zerg loses early game quite often lol

Oh trust me, I know. My boyfriend could rival IdrA with the stuff I hear after he loses from an early game rush. I daresay, it entertains me when I'm half asleep in bed at 4am and he's gettin' mad. (If you see this, I'm sorry. LOL.)

Idk. My boyfriend says Hydra's should be a Tier 1 unit. I almost agree at times.

Tier 1.5 might be nice, but their hp would have to be reduced. *cough* Broodwar *cough*

Haha, yeah. Seems like a fair trade, tbh.


This is not a balance thread, so take it elsewhere. I would really hate it if this thread became the battleground of the hive minds that lurk sc2strategy thanks for understanding

You spoke about IdrA, he plays Zerg. I spoke about how he plays, someone noted that Zerg loses early game quite often. I added note saying "yup I know", and added a comment comparing my boyfriend to IdrA. The main topic here.
There isn't any real banter about balance or anything. Just throwing ideas out there.
Everyone that's posted has enjoyed your blog and commented as so.

Also, I HIGHLY DOUBT anyone would spend their time turning this blog into the "battleground of the hive minds that lurk sc2 strategy" Sorry to disappoint, but it wouldn't be worth it for them.
you are perfect porcelain.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
February 06 2011 03:51 GMT
#28
On February 06 2011 08:17 Raeleigh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 08:08 gods_basement wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:27 Raeleigh wrote:
On February 06 2011 03:48 Gummy wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:22 Raeleigh wrote:
On February 05 2011 08:15 SubtleArt wrote:
On February 05 2011 07:46 Raeleigh wrote:
Maybe I should get "cute" with IdrA, see what happens. ^_~

On a different note, he is a BAMF for sure, and his skill level is insane, but like I was discussing with my friend while watching his stream, he's very macro-heavy. So he gets caught up and loses early game quite often when he streams, which is unfortunate. But, he does know exactly what went wrong, and although he might BM, he does take it, realize it, and do something about it. So. o:

Nonetheless, awesome read, enjoyed it a lot! =D 5/5


Every zerg loses early game quite often lol

Oh trust me, I know. My boyfriend could rival IdrA with the stuff I hear after he loses from an early game rush. I daresay, it entertains me when I'm half asleep in bed at 4am and he's gettin' mad. (If you see this, I'm sorry. LOL.)

Idk. My boyfriend says Hydra's should be a Tier 1 unit. I almost agree at times.

Tier 1.5 might be nice, but their hp would have to be reduced. *cough* Broodwar *cough*

Haha, yeah. Seems like a fair trade, tbh.


This is not a balance thread, so take it elsewhere. I would really hate it if this thread became the battleground of the hive minds that lurk sc2strategy thanks for understanding

You spoke about IdrA, he plays Zerg. I spoke about how he plays, someone noted that Zerg loses early game quite often. I added note saying "yup I know", and added a comment comparing my boyfriend to IdrA. The main topic here.
There isn't any real banter about balance or anything. Just throwing ideas out there.
Everyone that's posted has enjoyed your blog and commented as so.

Also, I HIGHLY DOUBT anyone would spend their time turning this blog into the "battleground of the hive minds that lurk sc2 strategy" Sorry to disappoint, but it wouldn't be worth it for them.


Its only natural that an Idra thread contains balance discussion lol
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 06 2011 03:56 GMT
#29
On February 06 2011 12:51 SubtleArt wrote:
Its only natural that an Idra thread contains balance discussion lol

I will 100% agree with that, haha.
you are perfect porcelain.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
February 06 2011 03:57 GMT
#30
On February 06 2011 06:40 JiSu wrote:
Haha he has a nice APM that he can kick people ass in sc2? Why don't he go back to BW and see how many ass he can kick in Korea? I'm sure all the progamers in BW scene will wreck his shit.

I'm not an IdrA's fan really because he thinks he is the best when really dude, you aren't. Some people can think that they are the best and even if they lose, they still get respect and people still think they are the best because really, they have accomplished a lot in the progame scene. What the hell has this guy accomplished besides being in CJENTUS for BW and code S in SC2? That does not make you the best.. sure you might be one of the best foreigners. But what the hell does that mean anything? It's like saying you're one of the best white players in basketball. Yeah, that's cool. With that said, when you lose to noob builds like early push, you should at least say gg instead of bashing on your opponents when you clearly lost. Plus, this guy does all the nooby builds a lot too.. roach push drone rush smh



He won an MLG and got to round of 8 in the GSL on top of winning several smaller foreign tournaments. I think thats more than a ton of people can say. Also I don't know which idra you're watching but I've never seen him drone rush in a tournament game, ever.

btw Larry Bird, Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki would like to have a word with you.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
February 06 2011 04:15 GMT
#31
i ask you guys not to do one thing: derail this blog. the next four posts are doing everything they can to undermine it.

last warning.
(TT~TT)
TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
February 06 2011 17:04 GMT
#32
Great blog make more please.
TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
February 06 2011 17:07 GMT
#33
Great blog make more please.
ticktack
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
February 06 2011 17:58 GMT
#34
Amazing read hehehe xD!
GO GO GO IDRA!!
A winner is just a loser who got pissed off and tried harder
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech117
Codebar 37
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 547
Hyuk 243
Dewaltoss 134
ggaemo 130
Leta 99
Free 87
Soma 85
soO 70
JYJ 70
Aegong 67
[ Show more ]
Mind 67
910 34
sorry 30
ZergMaN 29
Bale 16
Noble 13
Sharp 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm216
League of Legends
Doublelift2452
JimRising 637
Counter-Strike
summit1g6661
olofmeister356
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King131
Other Games
Happy318
Livibee68
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream236
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota268
League of Legends
• Jankos2328
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1h 36m
HomeStory Cup
2h 36m
Replay Cast
15h 36m
HomeStory Cup
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S3: W1
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.