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Just ranting for the day. Apologies in advance for spelling/ grammar mistakes, typing from my phone is no fun  .
Anyways, I've wound up spending some time on other Starcraft fan sites and the official battle.net forums recently, because for some reason at my school TL got classified as "GPORN" (the fuck is that?) and got blocked by the schools firewall.
A recurring theme on these boards Seems to be the assumption that TL is just an elitist cesspool where boys with self esteem problems rule the banhammer.
And I mean, in a sense I think this could be true for some people (I'm always very curious when someones ban is reasoned by 'I have my reasons'). I'm not sure what it is, But at the same time, TL really is one of the most intelligent, thoughtful, and friendliest communities I've ever been a part of.
I really couldn't even begin to understand why people think that the moderation on this forum is a bad thing. 99% of the time when I see the red text under someones post It's easy to see what rule was broken, what part was out of line, or the post was just straight up dumb. I really don't post all too often, but when I do I do try and make it count.
And I mean, I really do appreciate the massive amount of work the mods do to keep the board clean and rid of (most) idiots. Going back to other communities right now is almost like getting culture shock. When I returned to WoW for a bit when cata was released I was absolutely disgusted by the community. Even what could be called the teamliquid of wow arena, arenajunkies.com, is virtually all trolls and assholes looking to ruin your day.
Anyways, my intention wasn't to suck up with this blog, so ill stop. I just wanted to highlight an extremely prevalent curiosity that for some reason is repeated in almost every off site TL related discussion I've seen so far.
 
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"I have my reasons" is just an automated message whenever a mod doesn't feel like writing out the justifications.
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Korea (South)11577 Posts
oh hey. there's a reason why i've been a member for 6.5 years. it's a great community!
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GPORN: Shortened version of Gorilla Porn, i.e. There is a copious amount of Jinro Fan Art here.
On topic: I can kind of get where the elitist image comes from. You have some of the worlds best players here, and a lot of the frequent visitors to the site are ranked highly on the ladder. This can be off-putting to some people maybe. Another reason I could think of is that here, for the most part, you are responsible for your own losses in games. Take a normal post from the Bnet forums, whining about unit x, or race y, or OP strat z. If you make a post like that here, it's likely to get closed, keep trying and you're likely to get banned. The mods do a decent job keeping the forums clean :p. So you get people who are told that imbalance is not their problem and they need to improve, and they take it as a personal insult and label TL as elitists.
I've also noticed TL is quoted quite often when it comes down to factual disputes on other forums. TL is seen as a voice of authority, so this may be a contributing factor as well. People could see them as high and mighty because of a lot of the thorough analysis on the forums.
Also, I just thought of this. A lot of people on the Bnet forums came over from WoW it seems. An equivalent site to TL for WoW would probably be Elitist Jerks for arena PvP and serious PvE, who's name is quite self-explanatory. They seem to do a lot of analysis similar to what people on TL do, so it could be a carry over effect of people equating the two websites and their attitudes.
This is all hypothetical of course... 
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Teamliquid used to be such a relaxing and friendly place before SC2 rumors and the game got released. Due to the amount of users doubling or tripling due to sc2 it lost alot of community aspect since a hight percentage of the new users were really not that great. I'm sure most of the users from other forums are there because they been banned from tl.
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A recurring theme on these boards Seems to be the assumption that TL is just an elitist cesspool where boys with self esteem problems rule the banhammer.
TL doesn't have a high tolerance for idiocy.
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GPORN sounds like Gay porn to me..
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On January 06 2011 14:34 OPSavioR wrote:
GPORN sounds like Gay porn to me..
Maybe they saw the Nada's Body thread.... lol.
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Hmm during my stint with WoW over the summer I felt that elitistjerks was a stuffier environment. At least in creating spreadsheet formulas and general PvE number crunching, the atmosphere felt rather serious and sterile. On the other hand, arenajunkies held nonsense simply because it focused on competition in a game whose competitive tradition has no semblance of manner. I don't know how or if the noble BW chivalry carried over to the SC2 crowd, but I'm glad people at TL talk about manner as a serious discussion topic. In every other game, bad manner is just a fact of life and you're all sorts of a terrible newb if you'd like to contest it.
But yeah, Team Liquid is really something special in the world of gaming.
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So wheres the "the World" part?
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While TL isnt perfect and the mods might appear to be overly strict, its the best thing the SC community has and it sure as hell beats the crap out of all the other sites!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Basically if you are prepared to engage your brain before bashing out a post then you're going to be fine on TL. But if you don't, then you're going to get banned and repeatedly banned until you improve. Some people don't like that they can't shit all over this website heh.
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As someone who (very pretentiously) believes that he has seen a good number of online communities, I can say that Team Liquid is by far the most mannered/constructive/disciplined.
It's quite a contrast, because often I bounce around between 4chan /a/ (meh), /g/ (crap), /r9k/ (lol), XtremeSystems (also a great place).
(I'm the Loser777 there)
Places I used to be active on:
bwhacks.com (you can guess what that stands for LOL), gamethreat.net
(Also the Loser777 there lol)
tom's hardware forums (for a short bit)
To be honest, if the moderation at TL weren't what it is... the amount of crap would just be ridiculous. At bwhacks.com, with a community size just a fraction of what TL is, the amount of garbage/flame/trollan is unthinkable compared with what TL has. I appreciate this community and it doesn't have to 100% adhere to what I see fit. I'm more than happy with what's going on here after having experienced the bottom of the barrel.
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Despite TL being dumbed down a bit by the influx of new SC2 players, I'm sure all of the new users will eventually catch onto the level of maturity and intelligence that made the BW community so well respected amongst forum goers. Even with the plethora of poor posts and balance whining in the SC2 section and especially the Live Reports, TL is still worlds above any other online community.
I used to browse the official Command and Conquer forums up until after C&C4 was released, and I have concluded that official forums are never the place for mature, intelligent discussions.
Reddit is also quite awesome.
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Hmm, I may not be the first person that thought this but I opened this blog expecting LR fighting off Zatic's 7 evil exes or something (well just the first part)
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On January 06 2011 15:21 SayaSP wrote:
Hmm, I may not be the first person that thought this but I opened this blog expecting LR fighting off Zatic's 7 evil exes or something (well just the first part)
Haha I thought this was gonna be a parody story too xD
On January 06 2011 14:26 udgnim wrote:Show nested quote +A recurring theme on these boards Seems to be the assumption that TL is just an elitist cesspool where boys with self esteem problems rule the banhammer. TL doesn't have a high tolerance for idiocy.
Well said 
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teenliquid.net!!!
I love teamliquid!
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TL is the first online community that I have ever regularly participated in. It truly is a diamond in the rough of the intersludge.
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On January 06 2011 15:44 AirbladeOrange wrote:
TL is the first online community that I have ever regularly participated in. It truly is a diamond in the rough of the intersludge.
I second this wholeheartedly except I'm guilty of just lurking instead of actually participating.
Still, the few TL people from the TL community I have met in real life have all been worthy of the praise that we enjoy lavishing upon ourselves.
<3 TL
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I like the TL rules. Most forum poster-people drive me nuts because they can't put their hands on a keyboard without constantly referring to stupid memes that no one liked in the first place. If that makes me elitist, then I personally gladly would accept that title.
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Since 2004 (and we exist a lot longer than that) we have banned over 14000 users. That's enough to form a community of their own so I guess that's what you run into when you leave this godly place. Wouldn't be too concerned about it. In the end TL is just a mirror of what we feel how a site should be and this is not going to change for anything.
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Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become.
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On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become.
mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer
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On January 06 2011 17:39 Licmyobelisk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become. mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer
Well I see this almost every day and it's even better when other posters of the thread actually ask why a certain person got banned for their post. I remember in a few patch threads multiple people got warned simply because they had understood the patch notes wrong.
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Yes reading ability is a requirement on TL we won't deny that we appreciate it when people bother taking the time to read what they respond to.
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On January 06 2011 15:00 Plexa wrote:
Basically if you are prepared to engage your brain before bashing out a post then you're going to be fine on TL. But if you don't, then you're going to get banned and repeatedly banned until you improve. Some people don't like that they can't shit all over this website heh.
And thats the main reason i dont post as much, but man i <3 tl
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TL is the most awesome community i have ever seen. I became member long time after i started visiting regularly. Some people might seem elitist, but it is only because they have spent so much time and dedication, so they have the right to it. Only one time i was banned and i didn't feel it was justified, but i got over it. Strict moding is neccessary with the load of newcomers with SC2. With that said i wish TL many succesfull years to come.
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The strict modding is really what keeps the community clean. I'd like to dedicate a big Thanks to all the admins, mods, banlings, programmers, coders and all that it's called.
<3 u all
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TL is way too lenient. There's a lot of crap on this board that really should be banned or closed or at least given a new forum.
TL is fairly accepting of idiocy. Take the 20 contentless threads about people who've decided they want to be a progamer even though they aren't even highly ranked.
Even though I'm not a member of SA, they have the best quality threads on the internet, and it's due to the fact that you aren't just banned for being rude, but you're banned for screwing up threads and posting dumb, annoying shit too.
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Hyrule19049 Posts
I'd love to see TL mirror itself. One for normal TL, one for banned TL. Banned users don't get told they are banned, they are just sent to Banned TL, where everything behaves normally. Only Posts and PMs from Banned TL never appear on Real TL. Sort of a Twilight Zone thing I guess.
Anyway, I <3 TL. Sooooo much better than most communities.
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Austin10831 Posts
On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become.
That is absolutely not true and a gross mis-characterization of what actually goes on here. People being banned for their opinion is a rarity. People get banned for how they present their opinions.
I don't know where people get the idea that all opinions are created equal, or that TL should have to stomach stupidity to satisfy some uninformed notion of freedom, but that's not the case at all.
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On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become.
I completely agree, 4chan is the last bastion of free speech on this planet. We need to break free of our controlling over-masters, and migrate to 4chan. Then the deep, creative, intellectual discussions shall commence!
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Calgary25980 Posts
On January 06 2011 18:07 tealc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 17:39 Licmyobelisk wrote:On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become. mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer Well I see this almost every day and it's even better when other posters of the thread actually ask why a certain person got banned for their post. I remember in a few patch threads multiple people got warned simply because they had understood the patch notes wrong.
Please link to one person getting banned for asking why someone got banned.
Please link to people getting warned for misunderstanding.
Until then, I feel you are actually misunderstanding the situations.
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On January 06 2011 14:47 EchOne wrote:
Hmm during my stint with WoW over the summer I felt that elitistjerks was a stuffier environment. At least in creating spreadsheet formulas and general PvE number crunching, the atmosphere felt rather serious and sterile. On the other hand, arenajunkies held nonsense simply because it focused on competition in a game whose competitive tradition has no semblance of manner. I don't know how or if the noble BW chivalry carried over to the SC2 crowd, but I'm glad people at TL talk about manner as a serious discussion topic. In every other game, bad manner is just a fact of life and you're all sorts of a terrible newb if you'd like to contest it.
But yeah, Team Liquid is really something special in the world of gaming.
Starcraft is fine art,
Gentlmen play it.
Not the crowd.
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On January 07 2011 02:29 Boonbag wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 14:47 EchOne wrote:
Hmm during my stint with WoW over the summer I felt that elitistjerks was a stuffier environment. At least in creating spreadsheet formulas and general PvE number crunching, the atmosphere felt rather serious and sterile. On the other hand, arenajunkies held nonsense simply because it focused on competition in a game whose competitive tradition has no semblance of manner. I don't know how or if the noble BW chivalry carried over to the SC2 crowd, but I'm glad people at TL talk about manner as a serious discussion topic. In every other game, bad manner is just a fact of life and you're all sorts of a terrible newb if you'd like to contest it.
But yeah, Team Liquid is really something special in the world of gaming. Starcraft is fine art, Gentlmen play it. Not the crowd.
sup elitistjerk
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Croatia9500 Posts
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It's really sad what some schools ban nowadays. Back in my day we had Napster in the college dorms!
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On January 07 2011 01:31 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 18:07 tealc wrote:On January 06 2011 17:39 Licmyobelisk wrote:On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become. mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer Well I see this almost every day and it's even better when other posters of the thread actually ask why a certain person got banned for their post. I remember in a few patch threads multiple people got warned simply because they had understood the patch notes wrong. Please link to one person getting banned for asking why someone got banned. Please link to people getting warned for misunderstanding. Until then, I feel you are actually misunderstanding the situations.
I never said that users that asked about other peoples bans got banned themselves. Oh and according to Nazgul you now deserve to be banned.
On January 06 2011 18:38 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Yes reading ability is a requirement on TL we won't deny that we appreciate it when people bother taking the time to read what they respond to.
On your week off use your time to search the words "banned" and "warned" on teamliquid, soon you'll find enough evidence to write a book about. The very first thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7498848
and some mods defending their own: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182157¤tpage=15
Also, why does Idra get temp banned constantly, whereas a normal user not enjoying a celebrity status inside this community would have been permanently banned years ago?
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Calgary25980 Posts
On January 07 2011 04:12 tealc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 01:31 Chill wrote:On January 06 2011 18:07 tealc wrote:On January 06 2011 17:39 Licmyobelisk wrote:On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become. mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer Well I see this almost every day and it's even better when other posters of the thread actually ask why a certain person got banned for their post. I remember in a few patch threads multiple people got warned simply because they had understood the patch notes wrong. Please link to one person getting banned for asking why someone got banned. Please link to people getting warned for misunderstanding. Until then, I feel you are actually misunderstanding the situations. I never said that users that asked about other peoples bans got banned themselves. Oh and according to Nazgul you now deserve to be banned. Show nested quote +On January 06 2011 18:38 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Yes reading ability is a requirement on TL we won't deny that we appreciate it when people bother taking the time to read what they respond to. On your week off use your time to search the words "banned" and "warned" on teamliquid, soon you'll find enough evidence to write a book about. The very first thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7498848and some mods defending their own: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182157¤tpage=15Also, why does Idra get temp banned constantly, whereas a normal user not enjoying a celebrity status inside this community would have been permanently banned years ago?
"Makes me derp" is not acceptable posting on Teamliquid.
Complaining about skill and balance in live report threads has been bannable for awhile now. That's been a consistent policy. It's got nothing to do with it being Ret, despite it being pretty ignorant to say you that.
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United States4796 Posts
This is something about a loud minority that we should pay attention to. So few people actually think that Team Liquid is a really bad place. But they scream a lot about it. Hell someone made a Team Liquid Sucks youtube video.
There are so many people who love this place and don't voice it as much as those who are adamantly against it. And that's okay. Because TL is a good place and we all know that.
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On January 07 2011 04:12 tealc wrote:
I never said that users that asked about other peoples bans got banned themselves. Oh and according to Nazgul you now deserve to be banned.
Nope, he doesn't. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883
On January 07 2011 04:12 tealc wrote:
Also, why does Idra get temp banned constantly, whereas a normal user not enjoying a celebrity status inside this community would have been permanently banned years ago?
Again, read the 10 commandments.
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Croatia9500 Posts
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diamond player here
TL is the best site on the internet. Is this a Bo50?
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b.net forums are:
"OMG MARAUDERS OP NERF PLS"
"yeah bliz dusnt know how to balance teh game they dun know the community"
"shaddup, you're in silver lololol im in diamond so my opinion is worth something"
"i bet youre from tl elitist freak, we can have opinions too cause we understand the game too and marauders are op!"
^^ Or 50 other variations of the same thread about balance. It gets tiring. I'm glad TL doesn't have the same thing. :|
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So....what does GPORN stands for?
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On January 07 2011 05:16 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 04:12 tealc wrote:On January 07 2011 01:31 Chill wrote:On January 06 2011 18:07 tealc wrote:On January 06 2011 17:39 Licmyobelisk wrote:On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become. mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer Well I see this almost every day and it's even better when other posters of the thread actually ask why a certain person got banned for their post. I remember in a few patch threads multiple people got warned simply because they had understood the patch notes wrong. Please link to one person getting banned for asking why someone got banned. Please link to people getting warned for misunderstanding. Until then, I feel you are actually misunderstanding the situations. I never said that users that asked about other peoples bans got banned themselves. Oh and according to Nazgul you now deserve to be banned. On January 06 2011 18:38 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Yes reading ability is a requirement on TL we won't deny that we appreciate it when people bother taking the time to read what they respond to. On your week off use your time to search the words "banned" and "warned" on teamliquid, soon you'll find enough evidence to write a book about. The very first thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7498848and some mods defending their own: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182157¤tpage=15Also, why does Idra get temp banned constantly, whereas a normal user not enjoying a celebrity status inside this community would have been permanently banned years ago? "Makes me derp" is not acceptable posting on Teamliquid. Complaining about skill and balance in live report threads has been bannable for awhile now. That's been a consistent policy. It's got nothing to do with it being Ret, despite it being pretty ignorant to say you that.
So using the word "derp" is acceptable reason to ban/warn someone? TL staff really doesn't have anything else to do? Also I'd like to take a look at this "1000 words you're not allowed to say on TL"-list so that I can clean up my act and never get banned for using words such as "derp" that aren't even offensive or bad-mannered. I missed the part where you explained inclusively the reason people get banned for complaining about skill, why is that? And I'll just assume Idra is on the same protective list that ret is in since you refused to pay attention to the matter.
Going through my posts to find something that would disregard everything that I've said this far, eh? Please don't post until you have something better to say. Explain don't accuse. Is doing the basic logical fallacies the basis of how tl is being moderated? Who allows this? And to be fair, the post that you're refering to is both comforting and a piece of financial advice, guess I'll should've worded it better.
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On January 07 2011 17:36 tealc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 05:16 Chill wrote:On January 07 2011 04:12 tealc wrote:On January 07 2011 01:31 Chill wrote:On January 06 2011 18:07 tealc wrote:On January 06 2011 17:39 Licmyobelisk wrote:On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become. mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer Well I see this almost every day and it's even better when other posters of the thread actually ask why a certain person got banned for their post. I remember in a few patch threads multiple people got warned simply because they had understood the patch notes wrong. Please link to one person getting banned for asking why someone got banned. Please link to people getting warned for misunderstanding. Until then, I feel you are actually misunderstanding the situations. I never said that users that asked about other peoples bans got banned themselves. Oh and according to Nazgul you now deserve to be banned. On January 06 2011 18:38 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Yes reading ability is a requirement on TL we won't deny that we appreciate it when people bother taking the time to read what they respond to. On your week off use your time to search the words "banned" and "warned" on teamliquid, soon you'll find enough evidence to write a book about. The very first thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7498848and some mods defending their own: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182157¤tpage=15Also, why does Idra get temp banned constantly, whereas a normal user not enjoying a celebrity status inside this community would have been permanently banned years ago? "Makes me derp" is not acceptable posting on Teamliquid. Complaining about skill and balance in live report threads has been bannable for awhile now. That's been a consistent policy. It's got nothing to do with it being Ret, despite it being pretty ignorant to say you that. So using the word "derp" is acceptable reason to ban/warn someone? TL staff really doesn't have anything else to do? Also I'd like to take a look at this "1000 words you're not allowed to say on TL"-list so that I can clean up my act and never get banned for using words such as "derp" that aren't even offensive or bad-mannered. I missed the part where you explained inclusively the reason people get banned for complaining about skill, why is that? And I'll just assume Idra is on the same protective list that ret is in since you refused to pay attention to the matter. Going through my posts to find something that would disregard everything that I've said this far, eh? Please don't post until you have something better to say. Explain don't accuse. Is doing the basic logical fallacies the basis of how tl is being moderated? Who allows this? And to be fair, the post that you're refering to is both comforting and a piece of financial advice, guess I'll should've worded it better.
Why so much rage?
edit : If you want to post random crap, there's about just anywhere on the internets to do so. Why team liquid?
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On January 07 2011 18:35 Boonbag wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 17:36 tealc wrote:On January 07 2011 05:16 Chill wrote:On January 07 2011 04:12 tealc wrote:On January 07 2011 01:31 Chill wrote:On January 06 2011 18:07 tealc wrote:On January 06 2011 17:39 Licmyobelisk wrote:On January 06 2011 17:27 tealc wrote:
Everyone here loves TL because anyone who doesn't is terminated, everyone speaking against the public opinion gets terminated, "for trolling". Free discussion inspires creativity but if there is a higher force deciding for us who should be posting and about what, it dies. The day that I was worried of getting banned for posting my own sincere opinion was the day I ceased to respect of what tl had become. mostly the people that gets banned usually attacks the other poster personally, there's a lot of posters there that argue with each others opinion and it's damn entertaining. As far as I can tell not everyone gets banned because of his out of this world opinion but more on attacking someone else or a programer Well I see this almost every day and it's even better when other posters of the thread actually ask why a certain person got banned for their post. I remember in a few patch threads multiple people got warned simply because they had understood the patch notes wrong. Please link to one person getting banned for asking why someone got banned. Please link to people getting warned for misunderstanding. Until then, I feel you are actually misunderstanding the situations. I never said that users that asked about other peoples bans got banned themselves. Oh and according to Nazgul you now deserve to be banned. On January 06 2011 18:38 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Yes reading ability is a requirement on TL we won't deny that we appreciate it when people bother taking the time to read what they respond to. On your week off use your time to search the words "banned" and "warned" on teamliquid, soon you'll find enough evidence to write a book about. The very first thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7498848and some mods defending their own: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182157¤tpage=15Also, why does Idra get temp banned constantly, whereas a normal user not enjoying a celebrity status inside this community would have been permanently banned years ago? "Makes me derp" is not acceptable posting on Teamliquid. Complaining about skill and balance in live report threads has been bannable for awhile now. That's been a consistent policy. It's got nothing to do with it being Ret, despite it being pretty ignorant to say you that. So using the word "derp" is acceptable reason to ban/warn someone? TL staff really doesn't have anything else to do? Also I'd like to take a look at this "1000 words you're not allowed to say on TL"-list so that I can clean up my act and never get banned for using words such as "derp" that aren't even offensive or bad-mannered. I missed the part where you explained inclusively the reason people get banned for complaining about skill, why is that? And I'll just assume Idra is on the same protective list that ret is in since you refused to pay attention to the matter. Going through my posts to find something that would disregard everything that I've said this far, eh? Please don't post until you have something better to say. Explain don't accuse. Is doing the basic logical fallacies the basis of how tl is being moderated? Who allows this? And to be fair, the post that you're refering to is both comforting and a piece of financial advice, guess I'll should've worded it better. Why so much rage? edit : If you want to post random crap, there's about just anywhere on the internets to do so. Why team liquid?
Just ignore him, he's obviously trolling. In a short time he'll be banned like the rest of the fools.
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I live in a couple microcommunities on the internet where we basically regulate ourselves by flaming away anyone who is obviously too stupid to keep up with most of us. Lots of big communities don't work this way. They have rules in the sense of offensive content and individual power of moderators, but not a common community standard. Or really a community identity. TL has this. It isn't just about Nazgul, for instance. It isn't corrupted by the influence of any one person, and it's also strong enough to stay alive without that.
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