EPTIts a bit risky vs toss, but its not allin.
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SlyinZ
France199 Posts
Its a bit risky vs toss, but its not allin. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On December 28 2010 05:45 Stenstyren wrote: You could call a 14 hatch all-in, since it is a high risk build that has to pay off for it to be beneficial. However, these are the standard use of the terms: All-in: An attack that has little to no chance of a follow up unless it does significant damage to the enemy. Often signaled by pulling workers to help the push, one base play etc. Cheese: A tactic that relies on stealth and that will be very hard to execute if discovered. Proxy stuff, DT rushes etc. are cheese, as is cannon rushing. Greedy builds: This is what you are looking for. A tactic that leaves the player very vulnerable but if not countered will give the player a large economical advantage. Can be anything from overproducing drones to triple-expanding after spawning pool. All-in and Cheese are negative things, Greedy builds are usually called "daring" and "smart". So, when you say that the other player went for an all in tactic that's an insult, he thinks he was being daring. As he showed against you, he was good enough to pull it off as well. You went the direct counter to his greedy build and he still managed to win the game. That means that the build was justified and not too greedy at all, he managed to defend it. Also, don't insult a player who you hard-countered and he still won. That's just being stupid (and probably making him laugh). His definitions are pretty spot-on, except I would add that in an all-in you most likely stop worker production as well, so if anything your cannon rush was probably more of an all-in than his 14-hatch, specially if you failed and kept doing it. The only problem I see though is you responding to this little kid. Any mature person knows that if you win, there is no point to rub it in. He probably just saw you from here on TL and felt proud of himself for beating you and couldn't keep quiet. Be the bigger person next time  | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
1. Block chat, if someone starts to bash you after game. 2. 14hatch is greedy build, that should be punished or else you will be much behind. 3. Don't go too all-in with cannons^^ | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
On December 28 2010 03:48 intrigue wrote: you use the word "cheese" like a moron. embarrassing, please stop. and you also dont know what all in means | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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Raeleigh
Canada902 Posts
Woah guys, calm down. Just because someone uses a term wrong, means you need to be rude to them to help them correct that. You talk to them like they're a person, treat them how you want to be treated. You guys are just as bad as that guy BMing after he won. It's unnecessary and makes you look like a giant dick. If that's what you're going for, enjoy your e-peen enlargement, it won't help you get girls in real life. Sorry! But that conversation; So rude. :< People will BM me in game because I do a MMM ball, and maybe add a few thors, and they're all "Most boring build in the game, GG" "Wow, Terrans OP. GJ doing what everyone else does" ;~; And i'm like, hey, I just started! I'm trying to get basics down, then i'll try new things! !__! Or when I go Zealot-Void Ray then transition into Carriers, people get mad. ;__; I'm just learning~ !! No reason to BM when you win, IMO. Unless they BM'd you first in game. I can't watch the game right now cause i'm at work, but i'll watch it later with my boyfriend. But who said that All-in was attack ONLY? You can have all in builds leading up to an all in attack. Don't be so picky. :u Edit: To answer the original question: He's right, 14 hatch isn't all in, but you handled yourself better and didn't look like a giant bitch. :< So, my vote is for you~ | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Raeleigh
Canada902 Posts
On December 30 2010 18:21 Welmu wrote: Woah, thx<3! really nice post =) I understand English is your second language, right? Just read up on things if you're not sure and you'll be good to go! And learn to counter 14-hatch xD | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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Raeleigh
Canada902 Posts
On December 31 2010 12:33 Welmu wrote: Yes, mom ^^ I'm going to hit you. XD | ||
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