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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 21:49:00
December 14 2010 18:38 GMT
#1
Most people probably expect a whine thread/imbalance thread, but actually, quite the opposite is the case.
As this is the last week of my school before Christmas, I decided that I would only and only 4 gate till the end of this week. I'm a 2500~ diamond terran who wanted to try how easy it is.
It's. So. Easy. I make like 10 mistakes in my first game and I still roflstomp some zerg.
So anyway, so far I'm 4-1, I'll update this blog as I play more. :D!
edit:
Ok I'm done for today, I found that zergs were the easiest to 4 gate, protosses obviously had experience dealing with it so that was a bit tough and against terran it depended on my army composition. You actually learn a lot by 4 gating, it surprised me. Even if people scout it I could win and lose depending on how I engage, where I engage, zealots in front? Force fields? There are a lot of variables that I never thought of. I would definetly advise people who never tried 4 gating, I feel like I've learned a lot more than I would do if I just played normally.
Final score : 13 : 7


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Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
December 14 2010 18:39 GMT
#2
On December 15 2010 03:38 OutlaW- wrote:
Most people probably expect a whine thread/imbalance thread, but actually, quite the opposite is the case.
As this is the last week of my school before Christmas, I decided that I would only and only 4 gate till the end of this week. I'm a 2500~ diamond terran who wanted to try how easy it is.
It's. So. Easy. I make like 10 mistakes in my first game and I still roflstomp some zerg.
So anyway, so far I'm 4-1, I'll update this blog as I play more. :D!


Mhm....
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
December 14 2010 18:47 GMT
#3
I hate how every protoss is like "once i hit X rating and good zergs learn how to defend a 4 gate" as if a 4 gate was this build that didn't depend on player skill and was just stopped at high skill levels. No, there are 19 probe 4 gates and 30 probe 4 gate which can expo and punish turtle play and we're talking a range of attack timings from about 6 to 8 minutes game time. It's extremely powerful and a variety of versions should be practiced for every protoss' repertoire

That said, its not particularly hard, compared to how hard it is to defend..

OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 14 2010 18:50 GMT
#4
On December 15 2010 03:39 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 03:38 OutlaW- wrote:
Most people probably expect a whine thread/imbalance thread, but actually, quite the opposite is the case.
As this is the last week of my school before Christmas, I decided that I would only and only 4 gate till the end of this week. I'm a 2500~ diamond terran who wanted to try how easy it is.
It's. So. Easy. I make like 10 mistakes in my first game and I still roflstomp some zerg.
So anyway, so far I'm 4-1, I'll update this blog as I play more. :D!


Mhm....

There is a big difference between a race being easy and a race being imbalanced. (or strategy, for that matter)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 14 2010 18:52 GMT
#5
2500?? So weak.
No wonder you're winning with 4 gate. Once you hit 2700, it stops working. DUH.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 14 2010 19:00 GMT
#6
On December 15 2010 03:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
2500?? So weak.
No wonder you're winning with 4 gate. Once you hit 2700, it stops working. DUH.

didnt know there was internet on jamaica
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
December 14 2010 19:05 GMT
#7
On December 15 2010 04:00 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 03:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
2500?? So weak.
No wonder you're winning with 4 gate. Once you hit 2700, it stops working. DUH.

didnt know there was internet on jamaica

There is, you should Czech it out!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 14 2010 19:07 GMT
#8
On December 15 2010 04:05 Slunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 04:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On December 15 2010 03:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
2500?? So weak.
No wonder you're winning with 4 gate. Once you hit 2700, it stops working. DUH.

didnt know there was internet on jamaica

There is, you should Czech it out!

nice one
almost laughed
:d
won 2 games out of 2 so far
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 14 2010 19:08 GMT
#9
Every race has an easy strategy.

I don't get these topics.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
December 14 2010 19:22 GMT
#10
What's Zerg's easy strategy?

On December 15 2010 04:05 Slunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 04:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On December 15 2010 03:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
2500?? So weak.
No wonder you're winning with 4 gate. Once you hit 2700, it stops working. DUH.

didnt know there was internet on jamaica

There is, you should Czech it out!

HAHA nice.
Hello
italz
Profile Joined June 2010
France42 Posts
December 14 2010 19:28 GMT
#11
6 pool
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
December 14 2010 19:36 GMT
#12
On December 15 2010 04:28 italz wrote:
6 pool

Have you ever tried it?
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 19:38:19
December 14 2010 19:37 GMT
#13
On December 15 2010 04:22 PH wrote:
What's Zerg's easy strategy?

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 04:05 Slunk wrote:
On December 15 2010 04:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On December 15 2010 03:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
2500?? So weak.
No wonder you're winning with 4 gate. Once you hit 2700, it stops working. DUH.

didnt know there was internet on jamaica

There is, you should Czech it out!

HAHA nice.


Oman, I hope this isn't Ghana turn in to a bad pun thread.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 14 2010 19:52 GMT
#14
On December 15 2010 04:22 PH wrote:
What's Zerg's easy strategy?


Cept Zerg.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
December 14 2010 20:19 GMT
#15
On December 15 2010 04:37 Dr.Lettuce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 04:22 PH wrote:
What's Zerg's easy strategy?

On December 15 2010 04:05 Slunk wrote:
On December 15 2010 04:00 OutlaW- wrote:
On December 15 2010 03:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
2500?? So weak.
No wonder you're winning with 4 gate. Once you hit 2700, it stops working. DUH.

didnt know there was internet on jamaica

There is, you should Czech it out!

HAHA nice.


Oman, I hope this isn't Ghana turn in to a bad pun thread.

Ugh, I feel you. Pun threads are nothing Budapest.

But there'll probably be Samoa puns anyways -_-
boomer hands
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 20:51:17
December 14 2010 20:50 GMT
#16
TL doing it's thang again.

Dang, seeing that popcorn made me Hungary. I think I have some Turkey in the fridge.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 23:20:25
December 14 2010 20:51 GMT
#17
Did you just change your place so we can't make a pun out of yours? LOL
fuck me if i'm going to a pun out of that lmao.

EDIT: Ireland a few puns before I leave this thread i guess.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 14 2010 20:53 GMT
#18
rofl, no I changed it a Wales back coz I like the sound of it :D
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
December 14 2010 20:56 GMT
#19
the end of it kinda sounds like salami

i had salami a few hours ago
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
December 14 2010 20:58 GMT
#20
ew salami.

too much greece, imo
boomer hands
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
December 14 2010 21:09 GMT
#21
Come now guys, this is serious. 4 gate Israeli hard to stop xD
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
December 14 2010 21:21 GMT
#22
Yea Kenya guys get back on topic?
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Manclaws
Profile Joined December 2010
United States4 Posts
December 14 2010 21:24 GMT
#23
Yes, lets finnish the original discussion
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
December 14 2010 21:28 GMT
#24
Wonder why it got such a Chile reception
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 21:35:15
December 14 2010 21:34 GMT
#25
I'm pretty disappointed in you guys, all Russian to start making bad puns. All of a Sudan this thread gets derailed and no one even talks about 4 gates anymore. There's Norway I want to see this continue, I'm Finnish with it. I'm being Syria's.

So anyways, now that that's out of the way. I Haiti to break it to you OP, but there are many strategies that can be executed ad nauseum that are extremely effective, some variants of the 4-gate being among them. :p
you gotta dance
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
December 14 2010 21:35 GMT
#26
When I think about the Zerg race I come to the conclusion that Italian what they look like.
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 21:37:54
December 14 2010 21:37 GMT
#27
Low content op on a topic that is quite clearly not leading towards any meaningful discussion. Good luck with your experiment OP.

edit: edit in some more content with your 'update' fast lol
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 21:40:50
December 14 2010 21:37 GMT
#28
NOOOO DONT CLOSE THIS

edit: Rwanda keep this open just for future 4gate posts?
boomer hands
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 14 2010 21:43 GMT
#29
On topic, 4gate terrifies me, the other day I scouted it and felt weird in my stomach so Iran to the toilet right away. I don't know, I Bolivia it's the proper counter to 4gate. You simply Canada do anything else.

4-gaters really have no Seoul.

Too often Iraq my brain for hours trying to come up with a counter to a simple strategy like that.
Norway I'm doing that again!
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 21:47:11
December 14 2010 21:44 GMT
#30
You can't close this thread KENYA?

edit : It already had been said, now everyone will tell me URUGUAY?
Brood War is forever
BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 22:11:06
December 14 2010 22:05 GMT
#31
Shit just got Syria.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
December 14 2010 23:16 GMT
#32
Guys, we're overusing some of these...

I mean, Raleigh now...Denmark of a good pun is not to overuse it. We should help the OP instead of making him want Togo away with his questions.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 15 2010 00:01 GMT
#33
I see what you're saying. It's just that I like to Rome the forums looking for threads just like this.
you gotta dance
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 15 2010 00:26 GMT
#34
I hate four gate. I Singapore song every time I run into it. After I'm done crying my eyes out because I lose it to, I go get a Minnesota.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
December 15 2010 05:34 GMT
#35
i feel that we need to reflect on ourselves and how this thread has progressed. It is beneficial in my eyes to try the strategies that you lose to in order to find out why they're so strong. It really helped me stop that 2rax scv push.
Some people hurt people. I defenestrate those people.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
December 15 2010 13:55 GMT
#36
Not many threads make me actually laugh, but I'm laughing right now.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Tin_Foil
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States243 Posts
December 15 2010 14:30 GMT
#37
Haha, blogjacked by country punners, didn't see that one coming, I think it surprised all of U.S. really... Probably for the best, this blog was Ghana go no where fast... Helsinki, this is more fun, anyway.
JackMcCoy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
165 Posts
December 15 2010 14:40 GMT
#38
I'd suggest you Peru's the strategy forum, but it appears you already have.
OBJECTION
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
December 15 2010 15:04 GMT
#39
No need to stick Djibouti into this blog and threaten to close it, just because you don't like 4 gates
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 15 2010 16:37 GMT
#40
This is why I love TL. I was just sittin' here about to Sweeden my coffee with a Cuba sugar, and then BAM i see this thread! I almost dropped my cup in my lap and spilled on my Thai!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
December 15 2010 17:29 GMT
#41
I was getting a little Hungary earlier so I had Togo pick up some food but damn its really cold out, but I can understand your sentiment, TL sure is india-ering
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
December 15 2010 17:52 GMT
#42
so I was sitting here China think of something funny and smart to say but nothing comes to mind. then i asked a friend if he had any ideas and he said "Yemen I got loads of good ones."
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
December 15 2010 17:59 GMT
#43
well you know what they say, maybe if protoss's stupped Russian 4 warpgates they'd be less of a Spain in Djibouti (fuck, I've used this one twice)
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
December 15 2010 22:47 GMT
#44
Funny thread. I stopped caracas'ing my Poland started reading.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 15 2010 23:05 GMT
#45
I was Sweden bullets trying to think of more puns earlier today. There's Norway we can keep this going, or is there? Oslo, it's funny not many people have talked about 4WG at all haha
you gotta dance
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