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nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
December 11 2010 22:47 GMT
#1
Working on a computer build. I have all my peripherals already, wireless internet card, hard drives, DVD drive, so all I need is a CPU, motherboard, ram, and a GPU.

This is what I'm looking at.

ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 AMD Motherboard
Model #:M4A87TD/USB3
Item #:N82E16813131651

ASUS ENGTS450 DirectCU TOP/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
Model #:ENGTS450 DIRECTCU TO
Item #:N82E16814121394

SeaSonic X650 Gold 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready
Model #:X650 Gold
Item #:N82E16817151088

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
Model #:HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #:N82E16819103727

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Model #:F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
Item #:N82E16820231225

Comes to around $620 before tax. I'm 95% sure that everything is compatible, but not sure I'm getting the best deal on everything, but I know newegg is usually a safe bet.

I've also looked a little into getting a SSD HD, but that would involved moving most of my programs and windows over to it, and I'm not sure how much faster they really are.

I would appreciate any comments or feedback! :D

nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
December 11 2010 23:03 GMT
#2
Just checked amazon, all the parts are the same price or more expensive there.
Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
December 12 2010 02:39 GMT
#3
I'm assuming you are indeed from the US? Have you tried www.froogle.com?
Quickest way to check what the lowest prices are.
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nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 04:14:32
December 12 2010 04:11 GMT
#4
Yes, I am. Thanks for the tip. I'm checking it out now.

And it seems that newegg has the best prices around.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
December 12 2010 04:26 GMT
#5
If you haven't already, check out www.tomshardware.com. Once a month they review the best processors and video cards for the price.

Otherwise it looks like a solid build. Seasonic is a great PSU. Personally I go with Corsair, but the 20% off promo code makes this a good deal! I'd do a little research to find out how much voltage is on each respective rail so you don't overload it.

I assume you already have a well-ventilated case with a hard drive?
nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 05:55:20
December 12 2010 04:31 GMT
#6
I almost forgot a heatsink for the CPU.. NVM, comes with the processor.
nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
December 12 2010 05:02 GMT
#7
I've never checked the rail voltage vs component voltage, any tips on working it out?
reg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States134 Posts
December 12 2010 05:09 GMT
#8
You can save $30 bucks if you stick with 4 gb of ram. 6 seems a little much. Unless you have good reason.
nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 05:53:57
December 12 2010 05:49 GMT
#9
Thanks for all the input guys!

Looking at this mobo instead now, since it supports SLI in case I want to upgrade the graphics.

ASUS M4N75TD AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #:M4N75TD
Item #:N82E16813131637

It would come at the cost at lower speed RAM. 1600 to 1333, so I'd go for this ram instead. It would save a little money.

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

What do you think? Is it worth the downgrade in memory speed to have the option to add an SLI card?
nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
December 12 2010 06:37 GMT
#10
On December 12 2010 13:26 Servius_Fulvius wrote:
If you haven't already, check out www.tomshardware.com. Once a month they review the best processors and video cards for the price.

Otherwise it looks like a solid build. Seasonic is a great PSU. Personally I go with Corsair, but the 20% off promo code makes this a good deal! I'd do a little research to find out how much voltage is on each respective rail so you don't overload it.

I assume you already have a well-ventilated case with a hard drive?


Thanks, it looks to me that the Seasonic will power everything just fine, even if I want to add in another video card or a hard drive or two. Also, I have a good case and HDDs.
Aldrovandi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States211 Posts
December 12 2010 07:48 GMT
#11
Yeah, you don't need 6 gb of ram. You could also switch out the CPU for an i5-750 if you're willing to drive out to the Tech Center, they have a permanent sale on Intel CPUs:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0341729

In which case this would be a suitable mobo if you ever want to go SLI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138162

Or this if you're fine with a single card forever:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130271

You could also look at getting a GTX 460 instead of a GTS 450, it's a pretty substantial boost for only costing around $10 more.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
December 12 2010 08:32 GMT
#12
I would have to agree with Aldrovandi on the ram. 4 GB is plenty for pretty much any amount of gaming you'll ever do. Although $80 for 6GB is a pretty damn good deal.
good vibes only
nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
December 12 2010 09:23 GMT
#13
I'm rushing off to bed here, so this update won't be as pretty.

Thanks Max! You really found some good deals. That CPU is a total steal, I already reserved it. I'm going to pick it up wednesday.

Even if I don't care about SLI, I'm going for the BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA, because I need the SATA ports.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138162
DDR3 1600 RAM is the same price as the DDR3 1333, but I've never done any overclocking. Would it be worth the risk to get some DDR3 1600 and overclock it up a notch?

I'm going with your recommendations and settling with 4gb of ram. Going with this unless I overclock the mobo.
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231275

The SeaSonic PSU sold out, so I'm looking at this now: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

The cheapest GTX 460 I could find at 1GB of ram was 180, so 40 more than a GTS 450. I found some GTX 460 SE's and ~700mb cards for a little more than the GTS 450, so it seems like I should stick with the GTS 450.
Aldrovandi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States211 Posts
December 13 2010 04:18 GMT
#14
Alex, if you compare the findings in these reviews, the GTX 460 768mb performs almost as well as the 1gb version (or better in the case of the superclocked EVGA 460), and performs substantially better than the 1gb GTS 450.

GTX 460: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/11
GTS 450: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3909/nvidias-geforce-gts-450-pushing-fermi-in-to-the-mainstream/10

Full disclosure, I got a 460 about a month ago, so I've already researched the hell out of all the different options.
nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
December 13 2010 05:32 GMT
#15
Wow, it really does blow the GTS 450 away. My only concern is that my resolution is 1920x1200, and that a 768gb card would not be very happy with that. But it seems that the GTX 460 would still outperform the GTS 450 significantly. So it looks like I'm going with this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500173
Aldrovandi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States211 Posts
December 13 2010 06:58 GMT
#16
Here we go, found a review that tested everything against SC2:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/38178-nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-se-1gb-review-12.html

EVGA has a 1gb 460 SE on newegg for $10 more than the card you found, but it looks like performance increase is pretty negligible. That Zotac card should do fine.
nomsayin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States124 Posts
December 13 2010 07:56 GMT
#17
I actually went with an ASUS GTX 460, because I found this sweet combo deal with the PSU I'm already getting. It's gonna save me $25, so overall cheaper than the GTS 450.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.567276

Thanks a bunch everyone, especially Max. I'm gonna start ordering parts soon.
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