• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:46
CEST 05:46
KST 12:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting9[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET5Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)80Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition32
StarCraft 2
General
Revisiting the game after10 years and wow it's bad Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada The New Patch Killed Mech! herO Talks: Poor Performance at EWC and more... TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) WardiTV Mondays RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game [Interview] Grrrr... 2024 Pros React To: BarrackS + FlaSh Coaching vs SnOw
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Relatively freeroll strategies Siegecraft - a new perspective
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Men's Fashion Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Heroism of Pepe the Fro…
Peanutsc
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1465 users

Brood War Popularity

Blogs > moktira
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1545 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 20:11:17
December 08 2010 19:43 GMT
#1
Warning: May contain spoilers of recent games.

I have only been uploading VODs to YouTube for about 7 weeks so far (since the 20th of October) but in that time I noticed some distinct trends which I thought were quite interesting.

On days that Flash, Jaedong, Bisu or Stork play I get a lot more views and subscribers than other days. I especially noticed today as Flash, Bisu and Stork all played.

Here's an idea of some numbers:
OZ vs Woongjin on the 1st December
Killer vs Center Views: 154
Jaedong vs SoulKey Views: 460
Princess vs Crazy-Hydra Views: 109
Anytime vs Really Views: 166
Sky vs ZerO Views: 124
Hiya vs Free Views: 175
Jaedong vs PianO Views: 625

I assume Jaedong PianO got more views than Jaedong SoulKey due to it being the last game of the series (can't imagine PianO has more fans than SoulKey).

KT vs MBCGame on the 7th of December (yesterday):
Stats vs Sea Views: 185
Tempest vs HyuN Views: 175
Action vs Tiny Views: 142
Flash vs Light Views: 424
Violet vs Jaehoon Views: 269

These have been up about 30 hours and Flash's game has almost two and a half times the views of the rest despite the fact that it was almost an hour long (I assume Violet Jaehoon has extra views as it was the last game of the series).

Today's SKT1 vs Stars game (these have been up only 9 hours):
Hyuk vs Crazy-Hydra Views: 57
Bisu vs ZerO Views: 270
s2 vs free Views: 75
n.Die_soO vs Neo.G_Soulkey Views: 48
Kwanro vs Really Views: 75
Fantasy vs Flying Views: 141
Fantasy vs Zero Views: 228

I think the extra views in the last game are because it was an ace match and to due to an influx of Fantasy or Zero fans.

Yesterday with only Flash (of the more popular players playing) I got 6 subscribers. Today I have so far got 30 subscribers. I suppose there's nothing too suprising in these figures, everyone knows that these are the most popular players but I am often amused to see on a day how many people will just watch a Bisu or Jaedong game and not care about the rest. The last match in a series does tend to get extra views too.

Someone did a poll a few weeks ago asking something like "Do you follow teams or players?" Well there's your answer.

*****
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
December 08 2010 19:46 GMT
#2
On December 09 2010 04:43 moktira wrote:
Today's SKT1 vs Stars game (these have been up only 9 hours):
Hyuk vs Crazy-Hydra Views: 57
Bisu vs ZerO Views: 270
s2 vs free Views: 75
n.Die_soO vs Neo.G_Soulkey Views: 48
Kwanro vs Really Views: 75
Fantasy vs Flying Views: 141
Fantasy vs Zero Views: 228


Who can resist the charm of the revolutionist? Kim Taek Yong fighting!

Not a surprising result but it's kinda cool to see the numbers follow suit.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
December 08 2010 20:02 GMT
#3
Statistics are fun.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9775 Posts
December 08 2010 20:26 GMT
#4
Keep in mind that the people who support teams are often staying up late to watch them live!
boomer hands
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
December 08 2010 20:26 GMT
#5
If i can't watch it live, i go for match-ups not for teams or players (well a lil bit for players). PvZ and TvZ the most, some PvT when i like the player(s).
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 20:56:43
December 08 2010 20:27 GMT
#6
reading fail
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 08 2010 20:34 GMT
#7
Hey Moktira,

I really enjoy the VODs on your channel, esp. the ones with Chinese commentating (youku is too slow most of the time for me). Keep up the good work!

On December 09 2010 05:27 Plexa wrote:
Well the VODs on Nevake are getting 1.3k hits still so...


huh...?

When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
December 08 2010 20:37 GMT
#8
On December 09 2010 05:27 Plexa wrote:
Well the VODs on Nevake are getting 1.3k hits still so...


Nevake posts bw matches like 5 days after

often times i can expect moktira vids to show up on the day of the match which is freaking awesome

love you moktira! thanks for all your hard work!
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 08 2010 20:46 GMT
#9
lol way to post by just looking at title and ignoring the post completely
Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
December 08 2010 21:08 GMT
#10
Oh I know your youtube channel I subbed just a while ago. But yah for Vods i usally just watch certain players play because of length of videos and how watching all the games takes a while.
EPO
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada341 Posts
December 08 2010 21:18 GMT
#11
It's like any sport... gotta follow your fave team/players.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
December 08 2010 21:33 GMT
#12
On December 09 2010 05:37 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 05:27 Plexa wrote:
Well the VODs on Nevake are getting 1.3k hits still so...


Nevake posts bw matches like 5 days after

often times i can expect moktira vids to show up on the day of the match which is freaking awesome

love you moktira! thanks for all your hard work!

Not only that, he has 17,000 subscribers. Reaching 1.3k hits wouldn't take too long.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 21:42:25
December 08 2010 21:39 GMT
#13
I assume Jaedong PianO got more views than Jaedong SoulKey due to it being the last game of the series (can't imagine PianO has more fans than SoulKey).

No, the reason is because watching ZvZ is unpopular. Watching Jaedong decimate a Terran or Protoss is more fun than ZvZ, because the other matchups offer more variety.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1545 Posts
December 08 2010 22:06 GMT
#14
Even looking at the last VODs on nevake, it's more pronounced but a similar factor:

OZ vs Woongjin on the 1st December
Killer vs Center Views: 2722
Jaedong vs SoulKey Views: 4244
Princess vs Crazy-Hydra Views: 1516
Anytime vs Really Views: 1977
Sky vs ZerO Views: 1893
Hiya vs Free Views: 2773
Jaedong vs PianO Views: 7652

Jaedong gets over twice as many views as some matches and the last match of a series gets more views again.


On December 09 2010 05:34 Cambium wrote:
Hey Moktira,

I really enjoy the VODs on your channel, esp. the ones with Chinese commentating (youku is too slow most of the time for me). Keep up the good work!

I actually got a better source recently so don't post with Chinese commentary any more.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
December 08 2010 22:28 GMT
#15
It's too bad, I love Chinese commentary It's not as exciting but it's pretty damn funny.

You know you're spoiled when you check youtube at 9am after the 2:30am match and you're disappointed no VODs are up yet. Thanks
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 08 2010 23:49 GMT
#16
Something very disturbing about this is that jon747 pretty much always got more than 10 000 views per video, and the average viewcount was even higher than that. Now that he is gone, why hasn't nevaKe's views increased? It can only mean that all those people don't watch BW VODs anymore. Hopefully they're koreans who just watch it on TV instead...
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 08 2010 23:56 GMT
#17
vOdToasT, I can't say for sure, but I'd speculate that jon747's incredible speed is what got him so many viewers. The issue with Nevake right now (while I definitely appreciate his hard work) is that he's uploading in a huge batch once every week or so, which is not palatable for a normal viewer. People don't wanna feel like they're playing catch up all week, so they're either not watching the VODs at all, or catching the restreamers. There's also a number of other issues (name scheme of vods, editing, etc) which are just not as good on Nevake. I'm sure also that during the period of a month or so where neither account was uploading, many people just got thrown out of their SC watching routine in general.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
December 09 2010 11:42 GMT
#18
Thanks for all the hard work moktira! You're like the new Jon747 =D

PS I just usually watch all the bisu games if i miss them =p
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1545 Posts
December 09 2010 17:38 GMT
#19
Just to add the most recent OSL games:

OSL Ro16 Day 1 December 8 2010:
Flash vs Kal Views: 3455
Calm vs HoGiL Views: 517
Stork vs Mind Views: 628
Fantasy vs Modesty Views: 673

I'm not sure if this is due to Flash's popularity or the fact that it's a highly recommended game (both most likely) but that's a huge increase in views compared to the other games.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
December 10 2010 01:18 GMT
#20
even tho i watch a lot of matches live i still skim almost every vid that you put up.

i mean seriously who wants to watch tiny's game? you won't learn a new build or be entertained.

thanks for your efforts tho. it's keeping us bw fans afloat.
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft651
Nina 130
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 45
NaDa 10
Dota 2
monkeys_forever775
League of Legends
JimRising 698
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor160
Other Games
summit1g15822
ZombieGrub213
ViBE188
Trikslyr54
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL5926
Other Games
gamesdonequick2386
BasetradeTV185
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH99
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV358
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 14m
Safe House 2
13h 14m
IPSL
15h 14m
Sziky vs Havi
Artosis vs Klauso
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Online Event
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.