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Dear 815,
I miss you. Yes, YOU, be it version 1.0, Sin, or III, I miss you.
I'll never forget your small ramps, where it was actually really hard to move Tanks and Lurkers in and out of your mains (but it was so worth it). And the positions you spawned could just MAKE YOUR DAY + Show Spoiler +
I love your no-gas naturals, so much for greedy macro games. 3-base Zerg vs. FE Protoss, are you kidding? Z would still only get 1 gas lulz. 2 Hatch Muta, gas for Double Armory, 2-Base Carrier... boring stuff like this just doesn't cut it.
I miss your expansions, they always made me be like "WTF?". Needing 3 empty drones to set up an island, that was weird. And the middle expansions being abuseable from outside ... :}
I love your conception, back when not everything had to be a minimum-20-minute-macro-fest with identical maps (and wallable nat's for Terran?!?): Yeah, Mass-Game THIS
OGN expresses: “Our goal is to make unique maps, not the most balanced. If all we care for is balance, it’s not that hard to do on an ordinary terrain. What’s more important is to provide unique and interesting maps for our viewers and fans, which is why we released <815>."
All in all, I wish you'd come back and completely rock the Programing world.
The strangest thing is I came in 2008, you were long-gone by then. I never ladder'd with you, knew your gossip imballances, got psyched for your Proleague and Major League matches or did any of the wierdass strategies only you could allow (MnM + Wraith TvP, float-drone-take-expo happy-time, 1-base carrier FTW).
I never got to do this:
+ Show Spoiler +What Chojja-Boy does at 4:28 = sends Hydras to THE-SPOT 4:38 You see what he's doing... That is THE-SPOT on this map, it is literally the perfect place to morph your lu nkers because as you see, when you send units to and from the mains they just barely miss that point a.k.a. pass right next to it but don't actually scout the morphing.
All I have are memories, memories that aren't even mine, but your magic makes them real, I'll never regret the time I spent with you, theorycrafting or in awe.
Love,
~bITt.mAN
P.S. Is it ok if I share this letter with some friends?
+ Show Spoiler [2nd Most Epic ZvZ of All Time] +
+ Show Spoiler [What a Pimp.....Play!] +
+ Show Spoiler [Generally Epic and Awesome] +http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4229284380006080797&hl=en#
Please guys, let's have a nostalgia party! (no, NOT a Nostalgia party, tho I'd love that too...)
What was the gossip about this map (equivalent of "OMG 2-Base Carrier Katrina TT")?
Any great memories or memorable games?
Post your favorite games of this map, let's not let this map die!
I love all maps, they make the game change each time but I really love old maps!
NOTE: This is the fore-bearer of a larger discussion I'd like to generate this Christmas (as in, when I have time) about all the old maps I missed and all the racial imbalances/gossip about them, their imba spots, their trivia, why some were discontinued and others not, who was pwning up the shit on them... and really just sharing and remembering the glory days where you couldn't have a computer program optimize your build 160million times.
EDIT: Watch this get completely bumped and overlooked by SC2 /TvZ metagame\ blogs *shakes head*
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
this map was fucking amazing, so many awesome games
ones i can remember:
savior vs midas
sea vs boxer
boxer vs pusan
boxer vs july
boxer vs chojja
yellow vs midas (was it? the one with lurker glitch)
reach vs kingdom
also:
NEED MORE ISLAND MAPS.
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Great list Kona, but there're some ambiguities (could you embed the ones you're talking about?)
I was looking for that lurker glitch one (I actually think it was a JulyZerg game...??)
Which one of these should I do next? (NOTE: severe lack of historical knowledge for Older ones)
Poll: Next Nostalgia Map Blog SubjectMonty Hall (17) 53% Neo Forte (3) 9% Sin Peaks of Bekadu (3) 9% U-Boat (3) 9% Nostalgia (2) 6% Sin Gaema Gowon (1) 3% Plains to Hill (1) 3% Parallel Lines (1) 3% Detanation F (1) 3% Raid Assult (2) (0) 0% Icarus (0) 0% Mercury (0) 0% 32 total votes Your vote: Next Nostalgia Map Blog Subject (Vote): Monty Hall
(Vote): Nostalgia
(Vote): Neo Forte
(Vote): Sin Gaema Gowon
(Vote): Raid Assult (2)
(Vote): Sin Peaks of Bekadu
(Vote): Plains to Hill
(Vote): Icarus
(Vote): Parallel Lines
(Vote): Detanation F
(Vote): Mercury
(Vote): U-Boat
ARGH so many good ones!
EDIT: OMG FORGOT PARANOID ANDROID! Noooooooo
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boxer vs pusan on this map was so epic. they dont make games like that anymore.
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Monty hall many awesome games on that map
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On November 24 2010 10:37 DrKN wrote:
Monty hall many awesome games on that map
wasn't Monty hall the gay map with 3 lanes (ala dota) with minerals blocking your entrances into each lane? I never understood the whole point of havint the minerals block when players would just use the stupid worker exploit to bug a worker past the mineral to expand/rush the opponent.
I remember I was watching all of klazart's vods back then and he was just raging at how bullshit the map was against zergs.
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This map and Monty Hall NEEDS to be remade.
I love these maps dearly, such interesting concepts.
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On November 24 2010 10:45 crazeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 10:37 DrKN wrote:
Monty hall many awesome games on that map wasn't Monty hall the gay map with 3 lanes (ala dota) with minerals blocking your entrances into each lane? I never understood the whole point of havint the minerals block when players would just use the stupid worker exploit to bug a worker past the mineral to expand/rush the opponent. I remember I was watching all of klazart's vods back then and he was just raging at how bullshit the map was against zergs.
yes the map was wierd, and that's whats awesome about it. The games turned out odd.
Watch progamers on that map. If i remember correctly Jaedong vs Flash(or was it savior...) played that map and it was a cool game.
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i think of anytime vs boxer..
and anytime vs oov ^^;
sick games on a sick map!
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On November 24 2010 10:52 DrKN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 10:45 crazeman wrote:On November 24 2010 10:37 DrKN wrote:
Monty hall many awesome games on that map wasn't Monty hall the gay map with 3 lanes (ala dota) with minerals blocking your entrances into each lane? I never understood the whole point of havint the minerals block when players would just use the stupid worker exploit to bug a worker past the mineral to expand/rush the opponent. I remember I was watching all of klazart's vods back then and he was just raging at how bullshit the map was against zergs. yes the map was wierd, and that's whats awesome about it. The games turned out odd. Watch progamers on that map. If i remember correctly Jaedong vs Flash(or was it savior...) played that map and it was a cool game.
ANY progamer played that map and it was a sick game.
Off the top of my head Nal Ra vs. Boxer (carrier lockdown FTW)
Bisu (PvP) Stork?
Iris GGPlay comeback (went 0-2 to 3-2 OSL Finals)
Boxer Savoir (mech? fuck yeah!)
Great great map, love it
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Monty Hall what the hell? Couldn't stand that map. Neo Forte ftw. July vs Goodfriend EVER OSL 2005...
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Monty Hall :D That map was in it's prime when I started watching SC:BW
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Want me to put 815 on my SC2 remake list?
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God I've played so many stupid fun games on Monty Hall. ZvZ on Monty Hall is the funniest thing ever.
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Monty Hall. Flash vs. Bisu is super cheese.
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On November 24 2010 10:34 Ideas wrote:
boxer vs pusan on this map was so epic. they dont make games like that anymore.
The best game on the map was a PvP that was Reach vs Nal_Ra (or someone else). It had carriers that got countered by mass dark archons, and the DA's won.
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On November 24 2010 10:20 konadora wrote:
this map was fucking amazing, so many awesome games
ones i can remember:
savior vs midas
sea vs boxer
boxer vs pusan
boxer vs july
boxer vs chojja
yellow vs midas (was it? the one with lurker glitch)
reach vs kingdom
also:
NEED MORE ISLAND MAPS.
You forgot one of the most epic TvT ever : Boxer vs Midas, where Boxer went 20 starports, full wraith.
(Pringles MSL)
Yes 815 was an amazing map !
I think we should use Arkanoid for the next nostalgia map !
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silver build on monty hall. proxy hatch needs some loving.
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On November 24 2010 12:06 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 10:20 konadora wrote:
this map was fucking amazing, so many awesome games
ones i can remember:
savior vs midas
sea vs boxer
boxer vs pusan
boxer vs july
boxer vs chojja
yellow vs midas (was it? the one with lurker glitch)
reach vs kingdom
also:
NEED MORE ISLAND MAPS. You forgot one of the most epic TvT ever : Boxer vs Midas, where Boxer went 20 starports, full wraith. (Pringles MSL) Yes 815 was an amazing map ! I think we should use Arkanoid for the next nostalgia map !
As a Protoss supporter, Arkanoid remains among my least favourite maps list =/
PvT and PvZ is retarded on that map..
Neo Forte for nostalgia~
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ahh wow good times back then
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
monty hall and you forgot:
savior vs boxer
iris vs ggplay
silver vs shine[name]
iris vs savior
flash vs bisu
bisu vs chrh
!??!?!?!?!
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There was a really good Stork vs. Nada game on 815 too, in one of the ODTs. It was a great map, but laddering on it was a pain because every game was long.
Now that I think of it, iloveoov and casy had an unbelievable TvT on 815 as well. I can't remember which tournament it was in, but they had one of the best and most intense BO5s of all time.
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Korea (South)11579 Posts
incubus/paradoxx should be on that list yo. those maps make me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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REQUIEM. (though it didnt produce too many good games when it was reintroduced that late season)
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Yarn did a pretty good 1 base muta build on this map.
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Awesome write-up - although I've *really* enjoyed the current season of Proleague, I also have a soft spot in my heart for classic games and maps. Perhaps the level of play displayed back then wasn't nearly as high as it is now, but they were entertaining for different reasons.
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On November 24 2010 11:34 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 10:34 Ideas wrote:
boxer vs pusan on this map was so epic. they dont make games like that anymore. The best game on the map was a PvP that was Reach vs Nal_Ra (or someone else). It had carriers that got countered by mass dark archons, and the DA's won.
Kingdom vs Reach
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