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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 08 2010 20:56 GMT
#41
On November 07 2010 20:14 LumberJack wrote:
I've been in the SC community for over a decade now, meeting the plot brothers at WCG Los Angeles in 2001. Getting cannon rushed by Liquid`Tyler at a lan in 2000 in tyler, tx. Him and Whear showed us how nub we were.


i didn't even know nony played in 2000
can't imagine him showing anyone how nub they were in any manner than by being equally nub, back then


now whear on the other hand woulda been a diff manner



(no insult meant to nony of course, this isn't the year 2000, and nony is crazy good)
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
November 08 2010 21:07 GMT
#42
On November 09 2010 05:51 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 11:42 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
Amen. Everyone is pretty much trying to cash in on this SCII thing in hopes that it will become what BW once was. But IMHO they are doing nothing but slowly killing it before it actually becomes worth anything.


^

The fact that many people decided they were going to be "THE BEST SC2 PROGAMER EVER" before the beta even came out (looking at you, BW foriegners like IdrA) shows this; they didn't even know if the game was going to be any good before they decided to switch. The guy who posted a blog saying he wanted to become a progamer when he said he didn't even know the hotkeys epitomises this.

imo, the SC2 scene only exists because Blizzard are pumping a ton of money into it in hopes of cashing in later; the BW scene started up without large investors for a reason: it was actually good, instead of just being marketed as "AN ESPORTS GAME". (ahem C&C Generals/ZH, marketed as the next big esports game, died out a few months after).


There's a ton of I'M GOING TO BE THE NEXT PROGAMER blogs out there but most of them are just people having fun and seeing if they can get to diamond if they put in the time. They're not actually aiming to be 'pro' gamers.

And really, there isn't really any "progamers" in SC2 yet. The term is used too liberally to describe someone who's really good. The only one who's self sustainable is Fruitdealer and the future winner of GSL2.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
November 08 2010 21:14 GMT
#43
Here's one: Why do people always list their rating with a + on the end? Do they round down and then add a plus to show they anticipate always being above that rating?

Instead of a 2105 rated playing listing his stream as "2100+ Diamond", how about "2105 Diamond" or, fuck, even just "2100 Diamond". You never see "2199- Diamond". Why is that?

You never saw anyone in BW list their ICCup rating as "(C-)+". Was that just because of the rating system? You never saw ">C-" or "at least C-" or "min C-".
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 21:19:09
November 08 2010 21:18 GMT
#44
On November 09 2010 06:14 Chill wrote:
Here's one: Why do people always list their rating with a + on the end? Do they round down and then add a plus to show they anticipate always being above that rating?

Instead of a 2105 rated playing listing his stream as "2100+ Diamond", how about "2105 Diamond" or, fuck, even just "2100 Diamond". You never see "2199- Diamond". Why is that?

You never saw anyone in BW list their ICCup rating as "(C-)+". Was that just because of the rating system? You never saw ">C-" or "at least C-" or "min C-".


because point inflation just about insures that a person will go up in rating over time

and clearly no one wants to sell theirselves short
RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
November 08 2010 21:30 GMT
#45
On November 09 2010 06:14 Chill wrote:
Here's one: Why do people always list their rating with a + on the end? Do they round down and then add a plus to show they anticipate always being above that rating?

Instead of a 2105 rated playing listing his stream as "2100+ Diamond", how about "2105 Diamond" or, fuck, even just "2100 Diamond". You never see "2199- Diamond". Why is that?

You never saw anyone in BW list their ICCup rating as "(C-)+". Was that just because of the rating system? You never saw ">C-" or "at least C-" or "min C-".


It's because no one wants to seem anal about the exact amount of points they have, yet at the same time don't want to sell themselves short, and ultimately use more brainpower and an extra character to express their rank.

Although to be fair, in Brood War PLENTY of people used to describe themselves as "C+ but have reached B"
[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
November 08 2010 21:36 GMT
#46
I agree with the general principle of the post but I think certain points are misguided. If people want to spend money on terrible coaching, let them. If sponsors want to pay for players that don't have what it takes, they can do that too. What is important to realize is that both of these things are not sustainable. Players will be unhappy with the coaching they receive and they will stop playing the bad players. Sponsors will run out of money and be forced to be more selective with who they sign. What we are seeing is a bubble which is sure to be short lived. In time everything will settle down.
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