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Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
October 26 2010 02:11 GMT
#21
Can you please post some replays against good players? I mean B level koreans and above. I'm very interested to see what they look like.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
October 26 2010 02:48 GMT
#22
O the Nuke Anywhere has been used on me so many times ≥≤. Imagine being a whale in Nuke The Whales UMS on battle.net just to see a nuke being controlled with a mouse to hit you exactly where you are when the ghost didn't even aim for you. Lately I've found that every Nuke The Whales game has this hack being used by a nuker. Also I got drone rushed with MH and another hack that abuses the fact that you get a drone back when canceling an extractor to make like 300+ drones from it that are then Multi hacked to rush attack and make a drone train killing everything in its path. I saw 2 threads on this 1 of which had a video. It is so annoying playing against hackers >_<
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
October 26 2010 21:34 GMT
#23
On October 26 2010 07:55 LegendaryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 07:39 Gummy wrote:
On October 26 2010 07:26 LegendaryZ wrote:
I think it'd definitely true that Map Hacking can be an effective tool for training when used for that purpose. It lets you constantly check the timing of your build vs. a training partner in real time. Obviously if its use was limited to this purpose in a private setting, I doubt anyone would really have a problem with it. The problem is mainly when people use it to ruin what was intended to be a competitive experience.

Of course hacking will probably never completely go away (at least not without some major changes to how these games operate) and a clever hacker will always be difficult to detect. I don't believe anyone on this forum is under the illusion that this is a problem that will go away either. At any rate, it's interesting to see someone do such a long write-up about their experience using these hacks.

But you can do shared vision anyway on melee. No maphacks required.

This is true... Why is it that in 12 years, I never thought of this? -_- Could have saved myself a lot of trouble years ago if I did. Funnier thing, none of my friends ever thought of this either... Maybe we're just stupid. LOL

I think the last time I used any hacks in Brood War was around the time PGTour started and I started to play more competitive games against random people. It seems from the OP that hacks have come a long way since then. The "Nuke Anywhere" thing seems pretty ridiculous. I wonder how they coded that to work...


Nuke anywhere seems like they just modded ghost nuke range. Just change 1 memory value.
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parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1088 Posts
October 26 2010 22:16 GMT
#24
VERY interesting read OP. Thank you. I will try this in a custom sc2 map with complete map vision.
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Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
October 26 2010 22:56 GMT
#25
That is certainly an interesting take on things espeically the zvz 5 hatch before pool nonsense.
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
October 26 2010 23:02 GMT
#26
Thank you very much for taking your time to write this It was very entertaining even though I haven't played BW for a very long time...
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
October 26 2010 23:36 GMT
#27
Interesting read. Your notes on hacking and how it improves timing sense sounds similar to what Testie said about it.
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404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
October 26 2010 23:53 GMT
#28
I wish we could just call 'hackers' cheaters instead. They get some sort of thrill for thinking they're some 'uber 1337 haxx0r' for googling and downloading some exe injector or whatever it is. =(
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 26 2010 23:56 GMT
#29
Reminds me of Idra's quote about PvP:
On December 16 2009 14:33 IdrA wrote:
pvp is so funny

they just sit there hurling imbalanced shit at each other

Hackers playing against each other on BNet sounds wonderful. I'll just stick to ICCup.
BW fighting!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 27 2010 00:27 GMT
#30
--- Nuked ---
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
October 31 2010 10:34 GMT
#31
hacking is what killed my interest in bw. hopefully it wont do the same for sc2 becuase i am enjoying it again.
i like cheese
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 12:49:19
October 31 2010 12:41 GMT
#32
On October 26 2010 06:14 ArbAttack wrote:
Against 1 rax bunker rush with 5+ scvs: no need to even abandon natural here. I stop probe production on 15/17 supply and build a faster zealot, which pops right as the bunker is going up and alongside ~6 probes, bunkers gets taken down. GG.


well, dont know, what i saw in pro games is even though the protoss scouts the rush they just cant stop it. first wave 2-3 marines and 5 scvs -> zealot + probes might stop it first but with reinforcements (marines+vult) the zealot gets taken out and the bunker goes up.


e: can you upload some replays? like failed nex rush and the one vs 350apm korean
thx
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aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
October 31 2010 12:51 GMT
#33
Why use those hacks when you can just play sc2 and have them all legit..
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GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
October 31 2010 13:25 GMT
#34
nice, definately going to read that later.
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thrslimde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany57 Posts
October 31 2010 14:57 GMT
#35
great read, enjoyed it a lot. Thanks
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
October 31 2010 14:58 GMT
#36
hm i wanna see idra's 50 min fight against lastshadow. sounds gosu
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17727 Posts
October 31 2010 15:50 GMT
#37
On October 26 2010 09:09 imperfect wrote:
i must admit

pvp with both players map hack sounds pretty fun.. it all comes down to better mechanics lol


Even without MH it's more or less like that. There aren't all that many possible openings in this matchup and almost anyone gets obs relatively quickly.
The only way I would see MH useful in PvP is for spotting sneaky DT rushes or proxy bullshit. If there's no cheese involved, MH is useless in PvP.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 16:00:01
October 31 2010 15:56 GMT
#38
On October 31 2010 19:34 Phanekim wrote:
hacking is what killed my interest in bw. hopefully it wont do the same for sc2 becuase i am enjoying it again.


Funny i've never seen a hacker on iccup . Maybe thats your excuse for being owned in BW .
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
October 31 2010 17:43 GMT
#39
Those ZvZs sound amazingly dumb, haha
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
October 31 2010 20:08 GMT
#40
people should stop whining over hacks. the only hack that is really annoying is the disc hack.
if you dont want to play hackers, stop playing east realm. easy as that =)
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
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