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So MidiaN finally broke down and decided to get SC2 I'm wondering what is the community's view on him returning to the throne of the swarm where he belongs
Poll: Would you like to see ToT)MidiaN( stomping face on the pro sceneYES!!!!! (126) 71% Whois ToT)MidiaN(?(I hate you if you pick this...especially if you're monokeros you troll) (33) 19% No (19) 11% 178 total votes Your vote: Would you like to see ToT)MidiaN( stomping face on the pro scene (Vote): YES!!!!! (Vote): No (Vote): Whois ToT)MidiaN(?(I hate you if you pick this...especially if you're monokeros you troll)
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Name is familiar, so lets see how good he is!
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I remember him being very young in Brood War. He was a strong player.
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Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)
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It wasn't me!
On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much)
What about ret... >_>
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Korea (South)11558 Posts
i still have a sick ZvZ rep of him on Rush Hour against some top korean zerg from back in like 04 or 05. He is by far one of my fav. zerg player.
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I put him over ret and sen
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On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) Are u counting Sen as a korean u racist?:X And imo Day was the 3rd best zerg.
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On October 21 2010 03:53 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) Are u counting Sen as a korean u racist?:X And imo Day was the 3rd best zerg. Read the post above yours ^^
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Belgium9937 Posts
Midian was amazing, but with his poker skills I doubt he'll find the motivation to grind away the SC2 ladder.
If he decides to take SC2 very seriously DeMuslim is gonna have trouble getting invites to tourneys as second best british sc2 player.
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great player.
does he have support of Lil Susie?
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21% not knowing MidiaN... sad sight.
I hope he face stomps the pro scene.
GLGLGL
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On October 21 2010 03:59 RaGe wrote: Midian was amazing, but with his poker skills I doubt he'll find the motivation to grind away the SC2 ladder.
If he decides to take SC2 very seriously DeMuslim is gonna have trouble getting invites to tourneys as second best british sc2 player. Rofl
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yo imping! lolol do it up! go pro
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i'm picking "who is this" in all honesty sounds like some region from lord of the rings or something.
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Have to show support for my favorite Australian :3
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If I won't see him playing BW, SC2 is the next best thing (for me). So, absolutely yes!
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i obsed a bunch of games of his when he was in smi a while back. he was a goddamn beast. he made defilier control look stupid easy
rock on british wanker
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He's a talented player.
Oh and a UK zerg player with the same rl name as me, which is funny to me.
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On October 21 2010 04:26 DrywMz wrote: Have to show support for my favorite Australian :3
oh you
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I think I know who midian is! Why wouldn't we want to see him playing some sc2? :D
On October 21 2010 04:21 jtbem wrote: yo imping! lolol do it up! go pro
lol... fun times
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On October 21 2010 04:42 Monokeros wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 04:26 DrywMz wrote: Have to show support for my favorite Australian :3 oh you
they kinda sound the same.
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On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.
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Ah, this is the TL I know, almost no poster with less than 1000 posts, almost brings a tear to my eye.
YES, Midian should return!!!
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On October 21 2010 03:53 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) Are u counting Sen as a korean u racist?:X And imo Day was the 3rd best zerg.
I dunno man. Midian used to be very good. Before my time actually, but I remember that time in late 2007 when he came back from inactivity to smurf Nony when he was practicing for WCG.
People used to make strat forum threads here where they'd ask a zerg question and just go ahead and include his name in the title as well :p
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On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.
He was before the time of a lot of the other top non korean zergs mentioned in this thread.Any reps you've seen of him from past like.. 07 i'd say was of him playing 2-3 games then logging off for like a year. I remember he was in dream.t) though ages ago and i had soooo many reps of him against pro's/semi pro's playing really gg's with them. I know I may be a bit biased cause he's my favourite non korean player easilyy, but he really was a beast back then.
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On October 21 2010 05:19 Pads wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking. He was before the time of a lot of the other top non korean zergs mentioned in this thread. No, not really. Every zerg mentioned in this thread (mondi, ret, sen) was already a top tier non-Korean before midian was really known.
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With a face like his you never have to be good.
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One of his many great moments that I remember, playing Sea[Shield] under the id "WasteofTime"(something in that ballpark) on TL.Net attack.
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Seeing old BW players come back to SC2 is always nice, even if I'm pretty much indifferent to him.
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For me midian is second for many reasons while you may argue ret and sen posted better results etc ret didnt play zvz for the longest time. Then for me its personal preference between sen and midian. Mondi midian ret then sen is probably my personal rankings for foreign zergs through the years
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On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking.
He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid.
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who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him.
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Midian was my favorite zerg after mondi. Glad to see him back. Funny thing was when I met him a month ago he said he wasn't going to play sc2 lol
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I don't even see him on msn much anymore, I miss that dude.
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On October 21 2010 05:52 redtooth wrote: who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him.
he's dating susie. I know this because I stalk her day and night, not because I have a shallow knowledge of TL history.
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On October 21 2010 05:52 Drowsy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking. He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid. I'm not sure why you threw in all the stuff about him as a person, but none of it has any bearing on the topic at hand.
There is no objective way to do a ranking like this, but as someone who has seen every good non-Korean zerg play since about 2001, I definitely wouldn't put him second or anywhere in the top 5. In my opinion, achievements must be factored in, and other than WCG UK I can't remember him winning anything worth mentioning. Aside from mondi, ret and sen, guys like testie (all his races rank in the top 10 among non-Koreans), blackman, tomson and f91 should be considered. Everyone can agree that midian was an extremely good player, but second greatest non-Korean zerg ever is a little much.
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LOL BLACKMAN OVER MIDIAN!? stop trolling please. F91 is a solid addition to the discussion but im not fond of his style
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
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On October 21 2010 06:52 iSiN wrote: LOL BLACKMAN OVER MIDIAN!? stop trolling please. F91 is a solid addition to the discussion but im not fond of his style Yes, I also find getting third place at WCG behind boxer and yellow, and KOing oddysay in the process, to be laughable. You aren't interested in a real discussion, so we'll leave it there.
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On October 21 2010 06:44 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 05:52 Drowsy wrote:On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking. He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid. I'm not sure why you threw in all the stuff about him as a person, but none of it has any bearing on the topic at hand. There is no objective way to do a ranking like this, but as someone who has seen every good non-Korean zerg play since about 2001, I definitely wouldn't put him second or anywhere in the top 5. In my opinion, achievements must be factored in, and other than WCG UK I can't remember him winning anything worth mentioning. Aside from mondi, ret and sen, guys like testie (all his races rank in the top 10 among non-Koreans), blackman, tomson and f91 should be considered. Everyone can agree that midian was an extremely good player, but second greatest non-Korean zerg ever is a little much.
I agree. Everyone just romanticizes oldschool players. With Swedish bias, I would put HayprO above MidiaN as well. I never remembered MidiaN winning anything either. He was insanely good, but second best non-Korean zerg is just really weird when SEn, Testie, Pj and F91 were arguably the best non-Korean player at one point in time regardless of race. I don't think anyone ever argued that was the case for MidiaN.
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On October 21 2010 07:01 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: I voted no.
This isn't about you.
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
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On October 21 2010 06:44 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 05:52 Drowsy wrote:On October 21 2010 04:50 city42 wrote:On October 21 2010 03:50 iSiN wrote: Midian ranks 2nd all time among foreigner Zergs in my eyes right behind mondi(and not by much) What do you base that on? I have nothing against the guy but you are overrating him highly. There at least 10 people who would go above him on any fair non-Korean zerg ranking. He smoked progamers like Jangbi and Dove in straight up macro games while practicing like 1/4th as much as they did. Definitely one of the best, if not the best, western zergs. His play was just super solid and mechanical, kind of a Savior jr. He was also a super cool dude and was a regular poster on the strategy forum for a while. But alas, poker, WoW, and some chubby Korean lady stole him away from teamliquid. I'm not sure why you threw in all the stuff about him as a person, but none of it has any bearing on the topic at hand. There is no objective way to do a ranking like this, but as someone who has seen every good non-Korean zerg play since about 2001, I definitely wouldn't put him second or anywhere in the top 5. In my opinion, achievements must be factored in, and other than WCG UK I can't remember him winning anything worth mentioning. Aside from mondi, ret and sen, guys like testie (all his races rank in the top 10 among non-Koreans), blackman, tomson and f91 should be considered. Everyone can agree that midian was an extremely good player, but second greatest non-Korean zerg ever is a little much.
Well... F91 was almost definitely better, but the others I'd have to disagree, just judging from the way he played in games vs Yubi, Jangbi, and In_Dove.
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On October 21 2010 07:14 Piy wrote:This isn't about you. Ya we dont care what you want. You are going to have you put these sc2 noobs in their place
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Be good to see more UK SC2 pros
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randomly beat people like idra and koreans and seems lazy as hell with practice, he could be really good :D
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Who's the chubby Korean lady who stole him away? >.>
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On October 21 2010 07:01 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: I voted no. Stop being so selfish. Stop thinking about yourself and think about the community for once! JKJK Midian is the best!!
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On October 21 2010 15:30 lilsusie wrote: Who's the chubby Korean lady who stole him away? >.>
You are not chubby
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Norway28264 Posts
he was the first nonkorean zerg who learned how to muta harass!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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midian vs indove reps were amazing
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United States47024 Posts
On October 21 2010 06:37 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 05:52 redtooth wrote: who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him. he's dating susie. I know this because I stalk him day and night, not because I have a shallow knowledge of TL history.
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On October 21 2010 06:37 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 05:52 redtooth wrote: who is this midian guy? wasn't he like a boyfriend of a TL staffer or something? sorry never heard of him. he's dating susie. I know this because I stalk her day and night, not because I have a shallow knowledge of TL history.
where's my card.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Susie doesn't date.
She allows men to spend time with her and bask in her light. Once upon a time I spent time with Susie in person.
I haven't been able to appreciate anything since then.
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On October 21 2010 18:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Susie doesn't date.
She allows men to spend time with her and bask in her light. Once upon a time I spent time with Susie in person.
I haven't been able to appreciate anything since then. It's funny because I felt the same way about Jamie the first time I saw a simple picture of his boyish face.
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On October 21 2010 18:53 tonight wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2010 18:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Susie doesn't date.
She allows men to spend time with her and bask in her light. Once upon a time I spent time with Susie in person.
I haven't been able to appreciate anything since then. It's funny because I felt the same way about Jamie the first time I saw a simple picture of his boyish face.
Wait till you see more of him.........
Hey Jamie, you should play sc2 with me D:
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
lol, I'm happy just playing on EU at the moment, but I may get a US account in the future
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United States4796 Posts
On October 22 2010 21:30 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: lol, I'm happy just playing on EU at the moment, but I may get a US account in the future
The man has spoken! Kick some ass!
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Midian currently #451 in EU
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3861 Posts
Brett, leave the poor guy alone!
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Vatican City State2594 Posts
Midian has had SC2 for a while just said he wasn't interested in it afaik...
Just read the posts in the thread though. Have fun Jamie! Also Inc puts in words what few men have the privilege of experiencing, much less being able to convey xD
*starts building shrine*
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I think Midian is a badass.
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