So, after attending IEM NYC and then MLG DC over the past few weeks, I've noticed that many many north american/euro players get really sweaty at lans T_T.
I mean, this really isn't a problem when it comes to their performance, but getting someone that hasn't been interested in e-sports in the past, like my girlfriend, is especially hard when they show the players on camera and they look like sweaty pimply nerds O.o
Ex. we didn't make it for Whitera's rounds vs kiwikaki so me and my girlfriend were watching the stream, and she couldnt help but keep commentating on how Whitera looked like he had just been doused in water.
I know pro-gamer appearance is something that is still not something most gamers are concerned about in NA, but i think one of the biggest reasons gaming continues to be popular in Korea is because the progamers there (for the most part) don't look like the arch-typical sweaty, pimply nerd.
Anyways, Im not sure if MLG should look in to investing in better air-conditioning for the events or something, but i think the appearance of many progamers in NA/EU right now are quite literally hindering the penetration of Esports in the west. What do you guys think?
the only reason you don't see korean players as "pimply nerds" is because of the amount of makeup they cake on them before they go on air. and even then, half of them seem like their team could really use a proactiv sponsorship. and honestly they're pretty sweaty too, one of them (jaehoon) even has the nickname "sweattoss" because of how much he perspires. so in summary i'm not really sure that you have a valid point
On October 18 2010 02:27 Antoine wrote: the only reason you don't see korean players as "pimply nerds" is because of the amount of makeup they cake on them before they go on air. and even then, half of them seem like their team could really use a proactiv sponsorship. and honestly they're pretty sweaty too, one of them (jaehoon) even has the nickname "sweattoss" because of how much he perspires. so in summary i'm not really sure that you have a valid point
Atleast they look like they're putting some effort in to it. When QXC comes out on stage it doesn't even look like he's bothered shaving before he's set to appear in front of thousands of people.
Sweaty pimply nerds? Honestly I didn't see too many in the SC2 section.
The EG guys for example looked really sharp. Well groomed, well dressed, in great shape, etc. Not at all what you'd imagine your "typical nerd" to look like.
SC2 does not have this problem. I've been to warhammer tourneys, and simply been in the same room as a MTG tourney. You haven't experienced nerd stank-ass kill-yourself stench until you've been to a MTG tourney.
On October 18 2010 02:27 Antoine wrote: the only reason you don't see korean players as "pimply nerds" is because of the amount of makeup they cake on them before they go on air. and even then, half of them seem like their team could really use a proactiv sponsorship. and honestly they're pretty sweaty too, one of them (jaehoon) even has the nickname "sweattoss" because of how much he perspires. so in summary i'm not really sure that you have a valid point
Atleast they look like they're putting some effort in to it. When QXC comes out on stage it doesn't even look like he's bothered shaving before he's set to appear in front of thousands of people.
Hm I guess you raise the issue:
At what point to these events need to start requiring players to do things like be cleanshaven/clean/etc? At what point to they actually start applying makeup.
I think the answer is when they become big enough. Most of these events just aren't big enough yet (which ironically you claim prevents growth) to justify the time/effort/money to make this happen. Also, the professional community is too split between different events/sponsors/regions for there to be enough room for uniformity about stuff like this.
On October 18 2010 02:27 micronesia wrote: Sc2 isn't as bad as athletics but it can make you sweat. Not really much anyone can do about that...
What do you propose is done about the way some players seem like 'sweaty pimply nerds'?
Deodorant and bathing?
Is this a serious response? I think most players, even those who the op are referring to, bathe and whatnot... that doesn't solve the core issue.
I dunno. With basic hygiene and a decently healthy diet, most people will be fine. Otherwise it's a genetic problem or the rooms are just fucking hot. Nothing you can do about that.
On October 18 2010 02:27 micronesia wrote: Sc2 isn't as bad as athletics but it can make you sweat. Not really much anyone can do about that...
What do you propose is done about the way some players seem like 'sweaty pimply nerds'?
Deodorant and bathing?
Is this a serious response? I think most players, even those who the op are referring to, bathe and whatnot... that doesn't solve the core issue.
I dunno. With basic hygiene and a decently healthy diet, most people will be fine. Otherwise it's a genetic problem or the rooms are just fucking hot. Nothing you can do about that.
What do you mean by 'fine'?
Playing games at a high level under high intensity will make many people sweat even if the room is cool enough. The room can't be cold or else hands won't be as nimble. And I agree we can't do anything about genetic problems.
edit: Huk's hoodie while he plays may not help though LOL
On October 18 2010 02:37 Haemonculus wrote: Sweaty pimply nerds? Honestly I didn't see too many in the SC2 section.
The EG guys for example looked really sharp. Well groomed, well dressed, in great shape, etc. Not at all what you'd imagine your "typical nerd" to look like.
SC2 does not have this problem. I've been to warhammer tourneys, and simply been in the same room as a MTG tourney. You haven't experienced nerd stank-ass kill-yourself stench until you've been to a MTG tourney.
Then again, think a lot of people on 'big' name teams like EG, Fnatic, Complexity, the G7 type teams, have obligations to their sponsors to promote their products in a positive manner. Teams like these have multi-million dollar companies sponsoring them.
Whereas on the other hand, many players who are playing independently or are on less recognized teams are probably not obligated to present themselves in a professional manner.
The contracts players sign are pretty much confidential in all cases, but i wouldnt be surprised if teams like EG and Fnatic outlined standards of professionalism before they sign players.
I do completely agree that starcraft has a better player body than many other games though. But starcraft is one of the flagship esports titles atm, and if players want it to expand they need to be willing to work on their image just a little.
White-ra looked like that the moment I saw him, before the tournament even started or before we even entered the convention center. A large group of teamliquid/pro-team people were at lunch and white-ra came in looking like he came out of a pool. It might be styled that way, I don't know.
On October 18 2010 02:53 Nokarot wrote: White-ra looked like that the moment I saw him, before the tournament even started or before we even entered the convention center. A large group of teamliquid/pro-team people were at lunch and white-ra came in looking like he came out of a pool. It might be styled that way, I don't know.
Thats pretty strange. I know he looks quite handsome when he doesn't look like he's just taken a dive.
On October 18 2010 02:53 Nokarot wrote: White-ra looked like that the moment I saw him, before the tournament even started or before we even entered the convention center. A large group of teamliquid/pro-team people were at lunch and white-ra came in looking like he came out of a pool. It might be styled that way, I don't know.
Thats pretty strange. I know he looks quite handsome when he doesn't look like he's just been swimming.
I wonder what happened this time? O.o
His wife cut down his SC2 time. Dude's gotta be suffering withdrawal.
This was mentioned on SotG about professionalism and what not. I think if you are a player who is a favorite, or will most likely make it to the finals or a big name at least you should groom yourself, at least do it for your fans. People in this day and age like seeing human beings that are pleasant to the eye, so I'd imagine a lot of people would be turned off by this thus like has been stated before me will hinder the progression of E-Sports a little maybe even a lot but either way it doesn't help.
On October 18 2010 02:27 micronesia wrote: Sc2 isn't as bad as athletics but it can make you sweat. Not really much anyone can do about that...
What do you propose is done about the way some players seem like 'sweaty pimply nerds'?
Deodorant and bathing?
you guys.. this is huge we have to tell the scientific community apparently deodorant and bathing prevent sweating!!!! huge breakthrough thank u for enlightening us shieldbreak.
i don't wanna sound racist or anything.. but some people are more genetically predisposed to sweat more, just as some people have ridiculous amounts of hair (i'm looking at you, indian people).
It's pretty funny you'd say that when I've seen progamers in Korea dripped in sweat more than once. Jaedong's sweat dropping on his shirt - it's actually pretty awesome. Intense mental activities make people sweat. I mean, have you ever taken a 4 hour math exam? People get sweaty and the room is warm as hell. Also, playing a 30+ minutes game at 200+ APM is actually pretty exhausting.
A good number of progamers are pretty alright and the pimply nerds certainly aren't a majority. Taking MLG as an example, I couldn't name 3 pimply nerds.
Hell, Huk and Kiwi are pretty handsome! I've been wearing my headphones on my hoodie (without success).
Im curious to see a picture of the thread creator, if he is talking about other people fitting that "stereotype".. Chances are, he does too.
Sweating is hard to avoid in a heavily taxing mental and physical game like SC.. Its really different than every other game. Of course its not as bad as a full-body sport, but the amount of energy needed to play at the level that the top players play at, their high APM and so much multitasking (mentally) is really draining. I wouldnt expect anyone whos not familiar with it themselves to understand.
whats wrong with pimply nerds tell your girlfriend to stop being so damn superficial, besides most of the guys are sexy as hell have you seen lzgamer, tyler etc
On October 18 2010 03:27 ToFu. wrote: i don't wanna sound racist or anything.. but some people are more genetically predisposed to sweat more, just as some people have ridiculous amounts of hair (i'm looking at you, indian people).
On October 18 2010 03:58 Wotans_Fire wrote: whats wrong with pimply nerds tell your girlfriend to stop being so damn superficial, besides most of the guys are sexy as hell have you seen lzgamer, tyler etc
On October 18 2010 03:27 ToFu. wrote: i don't wanna sound racist or anything.. but some people are more genetically predisposed to sweat more, just as some people have ridiculous amounts of hair (i'm looking at you, indian people).
Thanks for pointing us out man. Thanks a lot.
You forgot to mention that Indian sweat smells horrendous, stinks up a whole room.
On October 18 2010 02:27 Antoine wrote: the only reason you don't see korean players as "pimply nerds" is because of the amount of makeup they cake on them before they go on air. and even then, half of them seem like their team could really use a proactiv sponsorship. and honestly they're pretty sweaty too, one of them (jaehoon) even has the nickname "sweattoss" because of how much he perspires. so in summary i'm not really sure that you have a valid point
Atleast they look like they're putting some effort in to it. When QXC comes out on stage it doesn't even look like he's bothered shaving before he's set to appear in front of thousands of people.
I'm sorry. Are you seriously suggesting that an unshaven QXC with his badass bandana looks like a stereotypical sweaty pimply nerd? ROFL. He looks more like a stoner than anything. What's with the obsession of shaving anyway? MLG LANs aren't boot camps, a bank nor a place of business and even then it's a pretty retarded norm if it's kept neat enough.
Also, does your girlfriend find beefy although sweaty boxers appalling as well?
On October 18 2010 03:27 ToFu. wrote: i don't wanna sound racist or anything.. but some people are more genetically predisposed to sweat more, just as some people have ridiculous amounts of hair (i'm looking at you, indian people).
Thanks for pointing us out man. Thanks a lot.
You forgot to mention that Indian sweat smells horrendous, stinks up a whole room.
That's a stereotype...depends on the Indian. -____-
in their defence, maybe it was hot where they were?
i mean, when im really focused and doing something that requires a lot of attention; even if it's not like mad physical like pumping weights, i can still sweat if the room isn't well vented or w/e
On October 18 2010 04:16 jjun212 wrote: in their defence, maybe it was hot where they were?
i mean, when im really focused and doing something that requires a lot of attention; even if it's not like mad physical like pumping weights, i can still sweat if the room isn't well vented or w/e
Actually it was kinda chilly in the gaming section... but personally I was sweating a bunch just from anxiety/pressure/stress. Playing a game in such an intense environment is pretty mentally taxing.
Playing a really intense game can make you sweat. Not much can be done about that. If it happens to me, I can only imagine it happens to progamers even more because they are playing more intense games then I am. Add in the pressure of a LAN event for large sums of money and I really dont see how you could expect them not to sweat.
lol, this is such a dumb thing to say. unless you want people hired as sweat catchers who go and wipe peoples faces during games, you're gonna have to deal with it. people under intense stress are gonna be sweating mid game, it's a natural response. has nothing do do with personal hygiene. i don't see how it looks unprofessional, so if you want jacked super models coming in to play so you're girlfriend thinks video games are cool, i think you are wasting your time. they most likely won't think video games are cool no matter who's playing. and esports in the west are anything but hindered, there's been a huge explosion; big cash tourneys, youtube's been spammed to shit with starcraft videos, look at the TL community, it's huge. let's all be sweaty nerds together!
Totally gross. And what about those filthy soccer players. Super sweaty, spitting and snorting on the ground while their clothes are covered in dirt. Ugh, it makes me sick. Good thing women are interested in tactics and strategy otherwise the World Cup would be a total sausage fest. Get some class retarded kickball players. And have you seen a football or hockey player take off their helmet after a game? Ewww. If your hair isn't styled 100% I don't want to see it. Please wash it you disgusting pig.
Great... I just puked over my $8000 Filco Keyboard with diamond switches.
Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
Multitasking in sc is very stressful and causes your body to release a lot of adrenaline, converting your stored fat/carbs into energy. But since you're just sitting in 1 place and not doing a lot of physical activity, the energy just turns into heat.
To not sweat you'd need to take a pill to retain water or something, but then you'd overheat very easily and it's not healthy.
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
I don't think we are on the same wavelength.
First of all athletes like football players are toned because they need to workout to be competitive in their sport. Gamers don't need to work out and in fact it could possibly have negative effects (incontrol can possibly clarify). Being tanned is irrelevant... if you think gamers should be going to tanning salons or something then I don't really have much to say. As for tall... what in god's name are you suggesting right now? Why did you even think mentioning that was at all relevant?
How are the gamers you see when observing games different from the athletes you see during a sporting event, in terms of pastiness? I'm just not getting what your complain is. This is what I've taken out of this thread and your post:
"I wish gamers were physically sexier." What do you actually PROPOSE? At the last event I went with I stayed at the same place as one of the players and I know for a fact he showered before he went to bed and AGAIN when he got up. What else should have have done? Hit the gym for 30 minutes every morning? I'm not saying that's a terrible suggestion but most of the best gamers don't fit that profile. There is a fundamental difference between football and computer games unfortunately.
I guess superficial people who watch a game because the contestants are sexy and not because of the content I can live without (not profiling girls since guys do this too re girl's volleyball). But yeah it's a bit unfortunate.
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start.
I think your post is a load of bullshit is what I think.
Yes, I am really sure that the main force holding back e-sports in the west is that the players get too sweaty.
It's not that for decades video games in the west have been attributed to school shootings, dead babies, ruined families, lost educations, anti-social behaviour, addiction, sexism, and immorality among a myriad of other things.
And it's certainly not because the average westerner still thinks video games are just that, games. Useless time wasters and nothing close to a multi billion dollar industry or a social medium that connects millions of people around the world.
But no I'm sure you're right, as soon as we start surgically removing sweat glands from the players, e-sports will be welcomed with open arms to a community of people that have been debasing the entertainment medium for decades and still have little to no understanding of not only its economic but social worth too.
The only thing that's going to make e-sports accepted in the west is time and games like farmville.
I'm sure zealots and marines are well build and athletic. I don't really care about the 'gamers'. I want starcraft on my screen imo. Who cares the players controlling them are not atheltic, as long as they play well and starcraft looks good. It's just judging a quality of a painting by the looko of the painter, which I think is rediculos.
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
He seems fairly normal here, though I didn't see the moment you were talking about.
Anyways seriously you are pulling the "sweaty nerd" card? Jeez... Maybe it's partly due to the fact that (from my brief googling) the Ukraine is about 10 degrees C atm whereas DC seems to be around 20+ degrees. Although I have no idea how long WhiteRa had to adjust to the environment, it seems fairly normal that someone coming from a cooler climate into a warmer one would take some time before got used to such a large temperature difference.
Note I have no idea about the intricacies of sweating works and this post is basically all stuff that is probably not scientifically accurate.
On October 18 2010 06:21 Liquid`HuK wrote: i would rather be sweaty and hot then cold and play bad. Having your hands cold is a real issue for any serious gamer
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
I think it would be nice if people can clean things up a bit but it's completely unfair to compare esports to sports because in the majority of sports, you HAVE to be fit/athletic in order to do well and the media defines "hot" as muscular and buffed. Have you seen a professional football player that isn't muscular/fit? That'd be like me saying that I like girls with a super toned body and why can't professional knitting be more like gymnasts to make it more appealing to guys.
That being said I do like the shirt and sport coat requirement for the casters... even though people were complaining in chat that it looked shitty I think it makes them look a bit more professional. I'm wasn't too fond of Husky showing up to MLG raleigh in a hoody and looking like he just woke up for his 8 o'clock class with his hair all sticking up.
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
I don't think we are on the same wavelength.
First of all athletes like football players are toned because they need to workout to be competitive in their sport. Gamers don't need to work out and in fact it could possibly have negative effects (incontrol can possibly clarify). Being tanned is irrelevant... if you think gamers should be going to tanning salons or something then I don't really have much to say. As for tall... what in god's name are you suggesting right now? Why did you even think mentioning that was at all relevant?
How are the gamers you see when observing games different from the athletes you see during a sporting event, in terms of pastiness? I'm just not getting what your complain is. This is what I've taken out of this thread and your post:
"I wish gamers were physically sexier." What do you actually PROPOSE? At the last event I went with I stayed at the same place as one of the players and I know for a fact he showered before he went to bed and AGAIN when he got up. What else should have have done? Hit the gym for 30 minutes every morning? I'm not saying that's a terrible suggestion but most of the best gamers don't fit that profile. There is a fundamental difference between football and computer games unfortunately.
I guess superficial people who watch a game because the contestants are sexy and not because of the content I can live without (not profiling girls since guys do this too re girl's volleyball). But yeah it's a bit unfortunate.
massively agree with that last paragraph. While certain levels of hygiene are naturally expected this isn't a god damn beauty contest. People play because of their ability, and they play alot. I can't imagine they have too much time to do superficial bullshit to please people that base their lives off stereotypes. I mean at least that person admits it but it's terribly sad.
Have you ever seen Jaedong sweating like a motherfucker during an intense match?
...the appearance of many progamers in NA/EU right now are quite literally hindering the penetration of Esports in the west. What do you guys think?
I think not.
Also, tbh I don't care if SC2 doesn't make mainstream because the players aren't "attractive enough". Why do I wan't fanboys/girls watching only because they think the players are hot, not because the game is fundamentally entertaining to them?
On October 18 2010 06:21 Liquid`HuK wrote: i would rather be sweaty and hot then cold and play bad. Having your hands cold is a real issue for any serious gamer
Don't worry Huk. We all love your sweat.
Women used to covet the sweat of gladiators as an aphrodisiac...and I think we all know sc pro-gamers are the modern day equivalent of those guys. We just need to harvest their sweat at LANs and sell tiny bottles of the stuff for extortionate prices under the Liquid brand.
Frankly, I'm surprised it hasn't been done yet in Korea. Who wouldn't want to rub a little bit of Boxer sweat into their soul?
On October 18 2010 06:21 Liquid`HuK wrote: i would rather be sweaty and hot then cold and play bad. Having your hands cold is a real issue for any serious gamer
Don't worry Huk. We all love your sweat.
Women used to covet the sweat of gladiators as an aphrodisiac...and I think we all know sc pro-gamers are the modern day equivalent of those guys. We just need to harvest their sweat at LANs and sell tiny bottles of the stuff for extortionate prices under the Liquid brand.
Frankly, I'm surprised it hasn't been done yet in Korea. Who wouldn't want to rub a little bit of Boxer sweat into their soul?
i'm guessing you don't know where Pocari Sweat comes from
On October 18 2010 06:21 Liquid`HuK wrote: i would rather be sweaty and hot then cold and play bad. Having your hands cold is a real issue for any serious gamer
Don't worry Huk. We all love your sweat.
Women used to covet the sweat of gladiators as an aphrodisiac...and I think we all know sc pro-gamers are the modern day equivalent of those guys. We just need to harvest their sweat at LANs and sell tiny bottles of the stuff for extortionate prices under the Liquid brand.
Frankly, I'm surprised it hasn't been done yet in Korea. Who wouldn't want to rub a little bit of Boxer sweat into their soul?
LOL. People asking for Liquid TLO would have a whole different meaning...
Firstly, you do realize you are playing a competitive video game right? I don't think I need to explain that.
But secondly and mainly...who cares? I sweat a lot in general; that's just how some people are and there is not much you can do about it. If you don't like dealing with sweaty people then do something like swimming instead of sc.
I think it adds legitimacy to the eSport, requiring such demanding physical speed/dexterity and mental concentration that you perspire! It would make it look like more of a 'joke sport' if they just looked super relaxed and refreshed after an intense 40min+ game.
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
Please, computer games are one of the few places left where it doesn't matter that you look good - you can be just as successful if you look like a complete nerd - please don't take this away from the unattractive people. I agree that if an individual wants to look nice for the camera then they should reap the rewards of additional attention and sponsorship or interest, but you can't force it on people. Most of the events are online where you can't even see the players...
Athletic sports rarely make women more attractive (there are some exceptions) and they get popular on strong support from their niche fans, love of the game, or being the best at what they do.
On October 20 2010 18:19 deL wrote: I think it adds legitimacy to the eSport, requiring such demanding physical speed/dexterity and mental concentration that you perspire! It would make it look like more of a 'joke sport' if they just looked super relaxed and refreshed after an intense 40min+ game.
On October 18 2010 05:12 Hakker wrote: Girlfriend here, I just wanted to make a distinction that many players here are seeming not to realise
Toned, tanned, tall sports players are one of the biggest reasons us girls watch sports. Seeing a football player drenched in sweat is pretty hot
However, seeing a pasty pale nerd that obviously does no work on his figure is pretty unappealing. Atleast in korea they work out every day :D. Its just a suggestion for your cause here, I think it would be really cool to see starcraft on the big screen! you can call me superficial, but thats just the simple fact of american media
Please, computer games are one of the few places left where it doesn't matter that you look good - you can be just as successful if you look like a complete nerd - please don't take this away from the unattractive people. I agree that if an individual wants to look nice for the camera then they should reap the rewards of additional attention and sponsorship or interest, but you can't force it on people. Most of the events are online where you can't even see the players...
Athletic sports rarely make women more attractive (there are some exceptions) and they get popular on strong support from their niche fans, love of the game, or being the best at what they do.
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