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Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 21:58:26
October 16 2010 21:37 GMT
#1
I stopped playing SC1 a lot around 2004, completely stopped playing it around 2006 when I went off to University. Even then I was a pretty terrible player, mostly customs and team games.

Recently I been playing SC2 and with that came a resurging interest in the SC1 pro scene.

Never watched Proleague before, I have watched a couple of OSL/MSL finals, and read about Proleague, so I knew who the people were and what the format was. I have also watched a few older Bisu/Jaedong/Flash matches for fun.

But watching SKT vs KT was woooow. The team format and the way PL was presented made it for an extremely pleasurable experience. The last match agains't BeSt and Flash made my mouth drop by how good BeSt's macro and pressure was.

Even comparing it to watching GSL and other SC2 tournies, I would have to say I was more entertained watching PL. Not because of the game itself, as right now I know very little about BW outside of my past experience in it, but it was because of the way PL was presented. It was like being taken on a ride. I hope the SC2 scene eventually grows to this quality.

I couldn't understand the commentators, but the sheer excitement of the commentators when something happened added a lot to the experience. Wish we had some commentators like that for SC2, only person who comes close is Day9 while doing his show.

I enjoy playing SC2 more than I ever enjoyed SC1, but watching these people work was highly entertaining. Looking forward to watching PL this season, think I might be a fan of BeSt now.

****
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 16 2010 21:43 GMT
#2
This is mainly because BW has an established and prestigious scene. The quality and execution of these events took years in the making. The game itself is such a great spectator sport and the commentators emotions get on to the viewers very well. Thats why the BW scene is the greatest eSports scene ever. Now as for SC2, if you look at tournaments happening at the start of the release and compare it to MLG DC, then the quality of games and level of commentary has improved dramatically. As time passes by SC2 should develop into something that will make BW proud.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 16 2010 21:48 GMT
#3
5/5, last night was great indeed. Hoping the same for tonight!

Samsung Khan fighting!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 16 2010 21:58 GMT
#4
I'm glad that you enjoyed it!

BW forever :3
RIP Aaliyah
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 22:01:07
October 16 2010 22:00 GMT
#5
On October 17 2010 06:37 Seide wrote:
I stopped playing SC1 a lot around 2004, completely stopped playing it around 2006 when I went off to University. Even then I was a pretty terrible player, mostly customs and team games.

Recently I been playing SC2 and with that came a resurging interest in the SC1 pro scene.

Never watched Proleague before, I have watched a couple of OSL/MSL finals, and read about Proleague, so I knew who the people were and what the format was. I have also watched a few older Bisu/Jaedong/Flash matches for fun.

But watching SKT vs KT was woooow. The team format and the way PL was presented made it for an extremely pleasurable experience. The last match agains't BeSt and Flash made my mouth drop by how good BeSt's macro and pressure was.

Even comparing it to watching GSL and other SC2 tournies, I would have to say I was more entertained watching PL. Not because of the game itself, as right now I know very little about BW outside of my past experience in it, but it was because of the way PL was presented. It was like being taken on a ride. I hope the SC2 scene eventually grows to this quality.

I couldn't understand the commentators, but the sheer excitement of the commentators when something happened added a lot to the experience. Wish we had some commentators like that for SC2, only person who comes close is Day9 while doing his show.

I enjoy playing SC2 more than I ever enjoyed SC1, but watching these people work was highly entertaining. Looking forward to watching PL this season, think I might be a fan of BeSt now.


welcome to pro-BW my friend

here are a few players you should be looking out for this season(unbiased)

(Z)ZerO
(T)Really
(P)free
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(P)Flying

Writer
yesplz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States295 Posts
October 16 2010 22:02 GMT
#6
I agree about the commentators. I can't understand them at all, but they are still so much better than any english caster I've ever heard.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
October 16 2010 22:05 GMT
#7
+1 BEST FAN
YES
JOIN US!

if you read the LR thread or stream chat at the same time you can get really easily caught up in the excitement even if you know jack shit about the game
boomer hands
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 16 2010 22:16 GMT
#8
5/5!

BW FTW! ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
October 16 2010 22:17 GMT
#9
Best is kinda a rockstar.

Also, the players are still better in BW than SC2, in my opinion, but we have GSL2 to look at, hah.

Loooove the korean commentators. So exciting.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
October 16 2010 22:18 GMT
#10
On October 17 2010 07:00 swanized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 06:37 Seide wrote:
I stopped playing SC1 a lot around 2004, completely stopped playing it around 2006 when I went off to University. Even then I was a pretty terrible player, mostly customs and team games.

Recently I been playing SC2 and with that came a resurging interest in the SC1 pro scene.

Never watched Proleague before, I have watched a couple of OSL/MSL finals, and read about Proleague, so I knew who the people were and what the format was. I have also watched a few older Bisu/Jaedong/Flash matches for fun.

But watching SKT vs KT was woooow. The team format and the way PL was presented made it for an extremely pleasurable experience. The last match agains't BeSt and Flash made my mouth drop by how good BeSt's macro and pressure was.

Even comparing it to watching GSL and other SC2 tournies, I would have to say I was more entertained watching PL. Not because of the game itself, as right now I know very little about BW outside of my past experience in it, but it was because of the way PL was presented. It was like being taken on a ride. I hope the SC2 scene eventually grows to this quality.

I couldn't understand the commentators, but the sheer excitement of the commentators when something happened added a lot to the experience. Wish we had some commentators like that for SC2, only person who comes close is Day9 while doing his show.

I enjoy playing SC2 more than I ever enjoyed SC1, but watching these people work was highly entertaining. Looking forward to watching PL this season, think I might be a fan of BeSt now.


welcome to pro-BW my friend

here are a few players you should be looking out for this season(unbiased)

(Z)ZerO
(T)Really
(P)free
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(P)Flying


what he means is that in two rounds you'll see 4 of these names lined up to be all-killed by (P)BeSt.
boomer hands
AssiRoyal
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany216 Posts
October 16 2010 22:30 GMT
#11
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 17 2010 07:18 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 07:00 swanized wrote:
On October 17 2010 06:37 Seide wrote:
I stopped playing SC1 a lot around 2004, completely stopped playing it around 2006 when I went off to University. Even then I was a pretty terrible player, mostly customs and team games.

Recently I been playing SC2 and with that came a resurging interest in the SC1 pro scene.

Never watched Proleague before, I have watched a couple of OSL/MSL finals, and read about Proleague, so I knew who the people were and what the format was. I have also watched a few older Bisu/Jaedong/Flash matches for fun.

But watching SKT vs KT was woooow. The team format and the way PL was presented made it for an extremely pleasurable experience. The last match agains't BeSt and Flash made my mouth drop by how good BeSt's macro and pressure was.

Even comparing it to watching GSL and other SC2 tournies, I would have to say I was more entertained watching PL. Not because of the game itself, as right now I know very little about BW outside of my past experience in it, but it was because of the way PL was presented. It was like being taken on a ride. I hope the SC2 scene eventually grows to this quality.

I couldn't understand the commentators, but the sheer excitement of the commentators when something happened added a lot to the experience. Wish we had some commentators like that for SC2, only person who comes close is Day9 while doing his show.

I enjoy playing SC2 more than I ever enjoyed SC1, but watching these people work was highly entertaining. Looking forward to watching PL this season, think I might be a fan of BeSt now.


welcome to pro-BW my friend

here are a few players you should be looking out for this season(unbiased)

(Z)ZerO
(T)Really
(P)free
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(P)Flying


what he means is that in two rounds you'll see 4 of these names lined up to be all-killed by (P)BeSt.



nah soulkey and zero are way better than hoejja

best was lucky there his pvz will not prevail^^

his pvt however is ridiculously good

v my sig
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
October 16 2010 23:30 GMT
#12
SC1 will always have the nostalgia factor to me. as long as they keep progaming alive i will continue to have interest. hopefully with time SC2 will mature and become a more enjoyable spectator esport but it's so hard to watch in the current state it is in.
The Show of a Lifetime
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 16 2010 23:46 GMT
#13
Glad you liked it!
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#14
Last nights matches were very superb. You should expect to see many more of it this season. This is why people love brood war and don't want it to stop
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
October 16 2010 23:57 GMT
#15
Right on brother. Last night was a lot of fun!
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
October 16 2010 23:59 GMT
#16
Yeah, even though I play Sc2 a lot I still enjoy watching brood war more, there's just something magical about it.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
October 17 2010 00:10 GMT
#17
Proleague is darn fun, fo' sure. The format and overall atmosphere, much more than BW itself, is what's kept me coming back again and again.

Plus, Stork is just that awesome. SAMSUNG KHAN FIGHTING!
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
October 17 2010 00:12 GMT
#18
glad more people are enjoying it

5/5
POGGERS
Rio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:16:02
October 17 2010 00:15 GMT
#19
Yes even watching BW is better than Porn
What ever ---------------------------------------------------™
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:19:17
October 17 2010 00:18 GMT
#20
it'll be tough catching all the matches (since it happens like 6 days out of 7) but keep watch of this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52045. And i also agree that team format beats individual leagues any day : P

Note that: TvTs might be excruciating and mundane to follow..... but Winner's League more than makes up for it with ALL KILLs everywhere

EDIT: WTF post on top of me....
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 17 2010 00:25 GMT
#21
Proleague is the best! It was the highlight of my day yesterday :D
Writerptrk
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:51:33
October 17 2010 00:50 GMT
#22
I really want to watch this proleague but it starts so late.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 00:56:47
October 17 2010 00:56 GMT
#23
On October 17 2010 09:50 scottyyy wrote:
I really want to will watch this proleague but even though it starts so late.

Writer
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 01:24:43
October 17 2010 01:24 GMT
#24
Yeah, I LOVE watching professional starcraft, even though I almost never play anymore nothing beats staying up to 3am and watching some pro broodwar!
Hi.
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
October 17 2010 01:27 GMT
#25
It was a great series indeed! After all the sc2 matches and games i have seen so far none have been comparable to BW games like these.
Long live BroodWar!
hoborg
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States430 Posts
October 17 2010 02:07 GMT
#26
On October 17 2010 06:37 Seide wrote:
Even comparing it to watching GSL and other SC2 tournies, I would have to say I was more entertained watching PL. Not because of the game itself, as right now I know very little about BW outside of my past experience in it, but it was because of the way PL was presented.


Yeah, I prefer watching Proleague, even to OSL/MSL. The team format is just so great, and the winners league is really exciting! As SC2 takes off as a spectator sport, I hope they adopt teams in a similar fashion. I just can't care enough about the random Koreans playing in the GSL if I don't associate them with team play.

Just wait till Fantasy Proleague gets set up here on TL, it makes watching more fun :<
blbl | CJ and ACE fighting!
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
October 17 2010 02:27 GMT
#27
On October 17 2010 09:25 ArvickHero wrote:
Proleague is the best! It was the highlight of my day yesterday :D


Me too! Just seeing Bisu's face again was good enough for me.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
October 17 2010 02:35 GMT
#28
seeing best's reaction last night after winning the ace match --- his happy face seems like he just won a starleague

i'm also glad you enjoyed watching PL, i hope there are more fans to come and support BW so it won't die... save BW!
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 17 2010 02:41 GMT
#29
On October 17 2010 11:27 shurgen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 09:25 ArvickHero wrote:
Proleague is the best! It was the highlight of my day yesterday :D


Me too! Just seeing Bisu's face again was good enough for me.


I really hope you're a --- nevermind.
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
October 17 2010 05:55 GMT
#30
What is all kills?
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 17 2010 07:24 GMT
#31
On October 17 2010 14:55 Seide wrote:
What is all kills?

It's from a league with a Bo7 king-of-the-hill format, where one player gets four wins in a row to win the match solo
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