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Akasha
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States261 Posts
October 14 2010 13:58 GMT
#21
You might try to find an internship or as someone said earlier a research position to actually see what you would be doing in EE. At least, you say I tried an internship and I really don't like EE.

Also, just do Engineering Management if you really wanna do management. Probably would just have to take a few management classes and still get out on time.
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djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
October 14 2010 16:14 GMT
#22
On October 14 2010 15:42 ooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 15:04 Barrin wrote:
Never let anyone dissuade you from finding your true place in life. Not even your own mother.

sucks but this is not practical in real life. If I have a kid and he wants to be a singer and he's a horrible singer, I'll smack some sense into him. Life is not made out of cherrys and donuts, you aren't necessarily good at what you like.

Your example doesn't really relate to the OP at all. The focus seems to be on the fact that the op is questioning whether or not to continue and spend the rest of his life on something that he does not enjoy, while you're emphasizing that he shouldn't pursue a career that he's not good at, which isn't even known to be a fact anyway. Good job picking singing as an example to totally over exaggerate your point; and what, all singers are natural born talents?

Anyway, to the OP, it's a really good idea that you're stopping to think about this decision, as it will greatly affect your future. If it's consoling at all, my brother started as comp sci, switched to a premed route, then ended up in econ by his third year, though he did take Summer classes to catch up. It's really down to you in the end because none of us know how you really feel about your current situation. Also, speaking to the advisers of both departments could be really helpful.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
October 14 2010 16:43 GMT
#23
haha im a EE major at rutgers and I am not enjoying it either. I am almost finished so I will stick it out, there are plenty of jobs to go into while you are in EE so dont sweat it.
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palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
October 14 2010 16:46 GMT
#24
3rd year already? you say you won't delay graduation but I find that hard to believe. one option is to just finish out the minimum course requirements for your current degree program while taking electives in stuff that interests you, and apply for a master's or PhD program in whatever else you really want to do ASAP. it's what I did.
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Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 14 2010 16:58 GMT
#25
On October 15 2010 01:46 palanq wrote:
3rd year already? you say you won't delay graduation but I find that hard to believe. one option is to just finish out the minimum course requirements for your current degree program while taking electives in stuff that interests you, and apply for a master's or PhD program in whatever else you really want to do ASAP. it's what I did.


This is good advice. Undergrad isn't all that important anyways. It's a bunch of bullshit for 4 years and then you go into the workforce and none of what you did matters anymore at all. Grad is where the real learning/specialization begins. You don't even have to do grad in a related field (though it might be more work if you don't).
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 17:10:25
October 14 2010 17:07 GMT
#26
Stay in engineering. I've heard of engineers and I've never heard of a management scientist.

Switching engineering faculties is a viable possibility. Your "Tell me your major and what you like about it" is a terrible way to go about it, though.

Edit: I feel like I represent the older, more realistic, and possibly jaded side of TL. TL university students would have you sacrifice everything in your life to "be happy." Many times more often that not, switching majors to "be happy" is a foolish decision.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 14 2010 17:36 GMT
#27
On October 15 2010 01:46 palanq wrote:
3rd year already? you say you won't delay graduation but I find that hard to believe. one option is to just finish out the minimum course requirements for your current degree program while taking electives in stuff that interests you, and apply for a master's or PhD program in whatever else you really want to do ASAP. it's what I did.


That's what I did as well.

I did my undergrad in Systems Design Engineering (mostly control theories), while I could understand and sometimes even appreciate the concepts, I didn't even bother pursuing a career in it because it was just so abstract, and almost no firm would hire anyone straight out of undergrad.

I took mostly computer science classes in my 3rd and 4th year as my electives, and I'm now doing CS for my Master's, which, I think, is something I enjoy.
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 17:42:32
October 14 2010 17:41 GMT
#28
As someone who recently graduated with a Ph.D. in genetics and am working as a Postdoc at UCLA let me tell you something right now. Don't do what you enjoy, do something where there are jobs at the end. I wasted 6 years of my life getting a Ph.D. and am wasting even more doing Postdoctoral work. Why? Because only 5% of Postdocs in my field actually make a career of it and it's largely who you know and what kind of mega lab you can weasel yourself into.

Hell, after 8 years in this field I only know of 4 people who have landed a job. Two as a professors and two in industry.

Going into biology is like saying 'I don't give a shit if I ever get a job'.

I hear nowadays electrical engineering is the same way. Watch out for this trap man. Electrical engineering may be awesome but will there be a job for you when all is said and done?
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TunaFishyMe
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada150 Posts
October 14 2010 18:11 GMT
#29
Engineering is respected everywhere. So you will not lose anything if you finish your degree. I did a degree in EE at Queen's. Did an internship, didnt like it. Then now I am in Consulting. I had no loss moving from Eng to anything. But it isn't the same for all other degrees. Finish what you started but in the meantime, spend extra time to figure out what you enjoy so you know what to transition to. "Management" is not really a career. If its project management, you have to understand what kind of project you are managing to do a good job. So you do need hardskills in the end.

Theres a lot to business so keep exploring.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 18:54:22
October 14 2010 18:46 GMT
#30
I was an EE undergrad and I seriously considered going to UCSD for Ph.D in EE. I visited the campus near the end of the winter quarter this year, so maybe I could have seen you there lol.

If you don't like it, that sucks, but with a degree in EE from a good school like UCSD, you can get a job doing a lot of different things both in and outside of that area. Actual work isn't like class or lab, so there may be some things out there that you enjoy. Whether or not these opportunities are worth two more years of struggling is up to you.

@GreatFall: Both employment and graduate studies in most sciences is not really the same as employment and graduate studies for most engineering disciplines. There are much fewer postdocs, and those that are there are mostly looking to sharpen some skills, get some more recognition, or wait for a faculty position to open up somewhere. Almost every grad student I know has at least one job offer by the time they finish, Master's or Ph.D., and I'm not even at a top-regarded institution. The lab environment is also not that similar.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
October 14 2010 18:57 GMT
#31
Dude im a thrid year Mechanical engineering student and I find the stuff we are doing to be fascinating. Right now im taking linear algebra, diff eq, dynamics and thermodynamics. On my free time i hang with friends and do math for fun and study. What I have realized is that the rigorous training they put us through is very beneficial in terms of thinking skills, surmounting challenges and overall intelligence boosting.

If you do all the work and look into things that relate to your field you start to gain a sense of vast knowledge and the power of learning. Dont waste your time when you could be getting smarter no matter what field you are in. I guess what I am trying to say is stick with engineering because after you get through it you can pretty much go back and learn ANYTHING because your critical thinking skills will be sharp.

I recommend mechanical though dude, EE looked WAY too boring for me but MECH is actually useful stuff. Even in the two classes i have right now (thermo and dynamics) we learn about REAL LIFE systems that I could actually picture in machines and everyday items like refrigerators, cars, you name it we know how to equate it!

I would also recommend minoring in math because it just opens your eyes to higher levels of thinking and it looks great on a resume.

Stick with engineering but switch disciplines would be my 2 cents.
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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
October 14 2010 19:14 GMT
#32
On October 15 2010 02:07 Chill wrote:
Edit: I feel like I represent the older, more realistic, and possibly jaded side of TL. TL university students would have you sacrifice everything in your life to "be happy." Many times more often that not, switching majors to "be happy" is a foolish decision.


I agree with this. I mean, I switched majors but I was only a year in. If you're third year, you may as well stick it out, get the degree, and then decide what you really want to do. I'm sure you could apply for MBA or something business related in grad school with an engineering degree (you definitely have all the math required).

A year of doing liberal arts and I decided this was not for me. I didn't want to read a bunch of books and then go back to class and discuss each other's opinions. I could do that on my own time. If I'm at college I should learn something valuable and that I really enjoy, which is mathematics.
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pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
October 14 2010 20:22 GMT
#33
Thanks for all the responses, I've read them all and I really appreciate it.

I've decided to stick with EE and finish it up. As many here have said, there are many opportunities in the field after I am done, which after a lot of thinking, I figured is most important.

Thanks again!
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 21:04:27
October 14 2010 21:04 GMT
#34
I have a couple of observations with regards to the EE major

1) From what I've seen there aren't actually that many EE positions for someone with a bachelor's. However, the reputation of the degree will still open up plenty of jobs that are not necessarily directly EE related. Basically, I think EE is a safe financial choice.

2) Have you been primarily pursuing the circuits branch of EE (I'm guessing because you mention breadboards)? There is a wide spectrum of topics that is encompassed by the EE field, and I think you should be able to find something that interests you. For example, I find the topics of information theory and signal processing to be quite fascinating, which are both EE, but have little overlap with circuits. Try branching out within the major as an alternative to the drastic choice of changing majors.
TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 01:26:58
October 15 2010 01:24 GMT
#35
If you want to get into business don't change your major. Instead, finish your engineering degree and immediately go for an MBA.

Business is a very broad field and the amount of lying you may need to do depends on what you get yourself into.

Take your mother's advice into consideration. But ultimately, you make the decision. That means owning your successes and failures.
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Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
October 15 2010 01:33 GMT
#36
Im assuming that your interested in math if you were majoring in engineering. Why dont you major in mathematics or something like that. I fucking love math and i am considering engineering as my major next year, maybe thinking i should look for something thats just pure math.... Idk yet.
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darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
October 15 2010 02:43 GMT
#37
biomedical engineering here.

Stay with your major. An EE degree will get you so much further in business than just some "management" degree. Like most people are saying, finish your degree and get an MBA if you really like business (although I don't really like it...).
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PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
October 15 2010 02:51 GMT
#38
I'm in Civil Engineering at Mcgill and so far, I really like it. The classes are hard, but quite interesting for me at least ( I know some people who seem to hate them ). But what I really like are the projects outside of classes like I'm on the Formula SAE team ( even though i'm in civil) and the concrete canoe stuff.... But that's just my point of view and you probably have more experience than me in all of this since I'm only in year 1 >.>
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
October 15 2010 03:14 GMT
#39
On October 15 2010 01:14 djcube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 15:42 ooni wrote:
On October 14 2010 15:04 Barrin wrote:
Never let anyone dissuade you from finding your true place in life. Not even your own mother.

sucks but this is not practical in real life. If I have a kid and he wants to be a singer and he's a horrible singer, I'll smack some sense into him. Life is not made out of cherrys and donuts, you aren't necessarily good at what you like.

Your example doesn't really relate to the OP at all. The focus seems to be on the fact that the op is questioning whether or not to continue and spend the rest of his life on something that he does not enjoy, while you're emphasizing that he shouldn't pursue a career that he's not good at, which isn't even known to be a fact anyway. Good job picking singing as an example to totally over exaggerate your point; and what, all singers are natural born talents?

Anyway, to the OP, it's a really good idea that you're stopping to think about this decision, as it will greatly affect your future. If it's consoling at all, my brother started as comp sci, switched to a premed route, then ended up in econ by his third year, though he did take Summer classes to catch up. It's really down to you in the end because none of us know how you really feel about your current situation. Also, speaking to the advisers of both departments could be really helpful.

gotta love people who stops reading after the first paragraph...
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Shengster
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 06:51:04
October 15 2010 06:50 GMT
#40
I felt the same way about computer science at UCSD. I took a quarter off about a year ago to figure out what I wanted to do with my life, and in the meantime took a job at a neuroscience lab as a student researcher. After doing some really cool research with glow-in-the-dark neuron cells I realized that computer science was something I could see myself doing down the line.

Sometimes it's hard to see how your degree translates to a job you can enjoy in the future, and that's why I'd recommend for you to do an internship and see if you enjoy EE.

My summer internship at salesforce.com was awesome (great pay, awesome location, free food, kickass project), and when I came back to school I realized how useful some of the upper-division engineering courses they make us take at UCSD really are.
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