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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
List of possibilities: EOS 350D (Rebel XT) EOS 400D (Rebel XTi) EOS 450 (Xsi) EOS 500D ( T1i) 40D 50D Nikon D40 I don't want to spend over like 350 for the body. Where should I look for cameras. Craigslist? Ebay, amazon? Also do you guys own any of these/have any input?   | ||
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AyeH
United States534 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On September 16 2010 10:30 Dr3w wrote: are you looking to buy a used one? most decent bodies still cost well over 500 last time i checked. i have a t1i and got the kit lens (have more lenses as well) and it works really well. Yeah, looking used. I'll spend what I need to though... | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
XT I will always cherish the XT as my first dslr, but it was seriosuly crap ( once i grew out of it ). The viewfinder is awfully small (you'll be spending more time squinting), and considering the fact it's pretty old, it's ISO is really bad ( but ok for a consumer-level dslr ) -- starting at ISO640. XTI/XSI No hands on experience with any of them, but I believe one of them use SD card instead of CF cards. If you're gonna get that make sure you think longterm, because, eventually, you will decide to upgrade, and all other Canon dSLR offers only CF card. 40D Excellent semi-pro level camera. it's LCD screen is pretty crappy compared to the 50D, but the ISO is slightly better than the 50D. But hey! the LCD screen should be the least of your concerns because you should be spending more time shooting, and less reviewing. 50D Not really worth it. The only major upgrade they did to it was the LCD screen. The rest is practically the same as the 40D. Same features, etc. PS. Personally, you should go in a store and try your hands on various dslr and to see what fits you best. Test them over a few days or even weeks if you have to, because most people jump in too quick. My taste ≠ your taste. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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iceburn
United States303 Posts
lens are what make the shot. i promise you don't go for the crap lenses. i see pro's work all the time with older bodies but their lenses are always high end. personally if you can get a xti for 350 or less do it, the xs is meh. also compact flash cards are what are you used in the xt/xti/40d/50d the rest are sd cards good places to look for used is on fredmiranda or photo.net used sell forum. way better than ebay imo. linky http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/10 http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=14 or do it big go 7D or 1dm4  I personally don't see a use for the 5dm2 unless you really need the full frame. | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On September 16 2010 11:40 benjammin wrote: nikon for life! a used D40 is a better deal than anything listed, in my opinion Explain. I"m fine with nikon if it's a great deal. I'm just thinking that becausem y friend has an epic 18-200, as well as a 18-55 he's willing to sell me... Still, go ahead and praise the D40 and convince me :D | ||
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
i think craigslist would be a good place to start for used camera gear, alot of photographers post on there. you also can meet the person/see the gear before you buy it. as far as brand, at this level, you cannot go wrong with most manufacturers. sony, nikon, canon, olympus, pentax, they all have good entry level cameras. though, newer entry level cameras come with video capability, such as the T1i/D5000. the more popular brands like nikon and canon, you'll find alot more used deals for them just because more people buy them. i think you should hop onto ebay, do some quick research as to what people are paying for bodies, then search of CG for local deals for that pricing. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Anyone have other thoughts, or thoughts on lenses/cost benefit ratio. Or thoughts on the nikon d40? | ||
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pikaaarrr :3
United States593 Posts
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TheMunkey
Canada470 Posts
I think it just came out recently so im not sure if anyone is familiar but i have my doubts as Sony is not really known for their cameras. was it a good buy? | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
If you are willing to look outside mainstream, I also think Pentax k10d or Samsung gx-10(which is identical) is good choice. I like shopping on ebay or craiglist. You can also try photo forums like fredmiranda, photo.net, pentaxforums etc. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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TimmyMac
Canada499 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On September 16 2010 13:28 phosphorylation wrote: The build is identical to all rebel series. Otherwise, your only option (at least in canon) is to get a 10D or 20D, but I would rather really get a newer Rebel. Trust me, they are better built than they feel. Alright, thanks for that. I've heard misc bad things about 1000d, but maybe it's fine. Pentax is making the best consumer level DSLRs right now. Obviously the Canon and Nikon full frame bodies and semi-pro stuff like D7000 and 7D are a huge step up. But, if you have access to Canon lenses, pick up a second hand Rebel XSi or something with no lens and have at 'er. What specific pentax models? | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
You can also match them with older pentax lenses which are cheap and good (also possible with canon). | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
Their prime lenses are just the real deal. Nikon can't match up to them at all. Bought a 85mm 1/8 recently thanks to lilsusie and nevergg at a cheap price, god I love this lens. Though my friend complained of AF going haywire at times on his 5D. Hasn't happened on my 400D/XTi though. 50mm f/1.8 II is an excellent, cheap portrait lens, especially if you're going to get a 1.6x crop. Pay a bit more and the f/1.4 is just wow. You have to ask yourself what you're going to be mainly shooting first though! | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On September 16 2010 21:23 konadora wrote: You have to ask yourself what you're going to be mainly shooting first though! for a beginner, 18-55+55-200+50mm should cover all their needs. so yea, if you can get a T1i, you get a very capable modern camera, and video capability. my recommendation. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
 forgot to add this in: if you're planning to go FF (full frame), then this won't work. but i don't think that'll be the case for you just yet, which is why i suggest this lens. decent price too! | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
and 50 1.8 II's wide aperture helps in indoor shoots, even just hanging around with friends in a mall, because artificial light < natural light. | ||
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On September 17 2010 00:30 konadora wrote: then 18-55, 55-250, 50 1.8 II. those are excellent for a starter's kit set, covers a wide range and is not that costly either. i'm not sure about USD, but kit lens comes with the body, 55-250 costs around SGD400~450, 50 1.8 II costs around SGD130. and 50 1.8 II's wide aperture helps in indoor shoots, even just hanging around with friends in a mall, because artificial light < natural light. What would you think for a body? | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
Since you are going to be on crop body, 50mm might feel too tight for most use. 35mm or 28mm would be more versatile imo. Of course the problem is finding affordable AF wideangles. That's why I recommend you take a long hard look at manual focus lenses, which are typically 10-fold cheaper. The optics are often just as good as modern canon offerings and build quality is often better. You only lose AF, which does limit the types of photography you might do. So, if I were in your shoes, I would invest 230 dollars on either used Xti or Xs or K10D. Get the 50mm 1.8 AF (80 dollars). To cover the wide and telephoto angle, I would grab two manual focus primes, possibly a 18mm (should be able to get a decent on for around 150 dollars) and a 135mm or 200mm (should be able to get a decent one for 40 dollars). Take a look at some photos I have taken with 5D and some manual focus lenses (the three lenses COMBINED costed me less than 200 dollars) on this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=151759 | ||
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Michaelj
United States186 Posts
I have a d40, and the only thing I shoot with 95% of the time is my 35mm 1.8. Everyone is talking lenses, but I will beg you to delay all lens purchases and get a good FLASH. a good bounce flash will give you great, even lightning that makes everything in your pictures look 10x better. You are usually working with really shitty, off-color light when you are indoors. A quality flash will make a huge difference, and you don't have to get expensive primes to shoot indoors (just shoot at 5.6 or something with the flash). I have a cheapo SB-400 flash I got for about $100. So for me, if I had to do it over again I would have gone d40 body ($350ish) + 35mm 1.8 AF-S Lens ($200) + SB-400 Flash ($100) = $650. Obviously if you look for bargains or used, you can get this for much cheaper. I never ever use the kit 18-55, and very rarely use my 55-200 vr. Just take a few steps forward and back, and it will cover most of your needs. This setup is extremely compact as well. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
as for a body, 500D/550D would be what I'd get, if I had the money. (though it's primarily also because of the video functions :> ) | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
I'll rarely take pictures inside, to be honest. And the stock flash is fine for any indoor pictures I take. (They'd be casual) Wait, I have a 90mm prime T.T | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On September 17 2010 14:20 phosphorylation wrote: Hey, if you don't want that 90mm prime, I will gladly put it to good use. Ahaha. Nothing against primes, but I'd like some zooms. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
thinking of getting a 20mm f/2.8 or a 28mm f/1.8 or a 50mm f/1.4 at the end of the year though, the kit lens doesn't cut it at all for wide-angle shots, and the large aperture will definitely help in my indoor shoots :D i wanted a wide-angle zoom but being a poor student, i can't afford those :< | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
kona, the 20/2.8 is an awesome lens. its cheap too. id def recommend that to replace the 18-55. there is a good inexpensive wide zoom, the sigma 10-20 is around the same price as the canon, but its alot slower at f4. still pretty good image quality imo | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
EOS 350D: $600 new, $295 used EOS 400D: $800 new, $350 used EOS 450D: $530 new, $395 used EOS 500D: $580 new, $510 used EOS 40D: $1000 new, $550 used EOS 50D: $950 new, $720 used Nikon D40: $700 new, $260 used | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
i got one for 290 around a year ago with 5 batteries and kit lens | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
you can probably get it around 250~300USD nowadays, i bought mine at SGD500 earlier this year. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On September 18 2010 14:32 konadora wrote: used 400D for 350? lol you can probably get it around 250~300USD nowadays, i bought mine at SGD500 earlier this year. I'm trusting amazon rofl. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
i personally am saving up for panasonic gh1 (or gh2, if that ever comes out) ^^ | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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