As of right now, you opened this, and probably have never seen or heard of me. I have a knack for video games, and in the next 4 months, you will have heard of me outside of this thread, winning something big. I will show that I have what it takes to become a pro gamer.
As of writing this right now, I am a rank 1000 diamond Zerg player on the US ladder. To most "pros" they will look at that and laugh, thinking I'm just another of the "decent" players, but nothing special. They are wrong, however. This is not a statement that defies modesty. This is what I know. This is what my passion tells me. This is the pro gamer to be.
A little about myself. When I was 2 years old, my dad would take me to the arcade to play over-head airplane shooters on his lap. When I was 4, my dad let me play Doom on his DOS computer after pre-school (I kid you not, and yes I am a bit mentally screwed up ). I never stopped PC gaming, and eventually wound up playing competitive UT99. After dominating some minor league stuff, I tried for something bigger league, but got caught in a "scandal" being a 14 year old caught in a "16+ league". Shortly after I switched to Q3 where I did some minor competing, and following that Team Fortress 2. A year and a half ago, a good friend of mine that I went to LANS with, Mike Lamond (you may have heard of him, maybe Husky rings a better bell?) introduced me to SC1. The following 6 months were spent getting my ass handed to me on a silver platter in countless ZvP games. I then proceeded to try my hand at ICCUP, and managed to get C in 2 months (this was around December of last year). I also had a major edge that was becoming more prominent; in that short amount of time, I had developed an apm of around 300 (BWReplay apm). My friends were all dumbfounded with my quick development of such a high apm, as well as how quickly I picked up the game with little experience.
And now we arrive at Starcraft 2, the game you will soon be hearing my name around. I started at day 1 of beta. I used a mass hydra build, that got me games from the likes of PsyonicReaver, InContRoL, Louder, and LZGamer. After that was nerfed/countered I switched to a Nydus heavy build, that surprised everyone, because they never expected such a fast nydus with 30 zerglings pouring out. From there I decided to develop a macro game, and have been consequently working on that until this day. My SC2 apm is ~160 lategame, and every game it seems to climb a bit more. I inject every 25 seconds. I am beginning to spread tumors at every chance. I am spreading overlords and creating creep highways. I can defend a 1500 T reaper harass. I am becoming a good Zerg. Soon to be a pro one.
The reason I am making this blog, is because I want to encourage every TL member who doesn't think they can do it, every "amateur" player that doesn't quite have that last bit of drive they need to go for it, that they can in fact become a pro Starcraft 2 player.
I will be practicing a minimum of 60 hours a week starting 9/18/10. This will consist of Ladder play until I can prove myself worthy to practice with the best. This blog also serves as another way to get myself out there, so I can find the right people, and make the best connections possible. I will be trying to post my progress - the lessons I learn, my updated ladder rank, etc - as much as possible.
The point is that you are reading about a "nobody" right now, but this won't be the case in 4 months time.
I am Wicked, and I will be a Pro Starcraft 2 player.
Today begins day 1. As predicted, there are a lot of doubters, and even more skeptics. This includes looking up my ICCUP account,
*edit* You are right huameng, for some reason this was a mixup on my part. I tried to make ForgottenOne, which was taken. IIRC they post your rank by the end of the season, and I was reminded that in fact I just barely made it to C (something like 20 and 6), and not C+. After that point I lost a bunch of games trying to play real games. I was never *amazing* at Starcraft 1. This is still not the point of my post, and was not intentional deception on my part. Apologies.
This also includes the classic "Pros don't say they're going to go pro!", which for some of the quiet ones, this is true. However, for someone like me, who to really set his mind and accomplish something, I get it out, so that I have no excuse to fail. I can't let people down.
A quick little additive to this status update, since I am just now beginning, is that last year I lost 90 lbs in 6 months. For anyone that has ever tried to lose weight, you should know this is no easy feat. I had been trying to lose weight (sitting at 265 before that) for a long time. But everytime I tried, I gave up because it was "too hard". Finally, I told everyone I knew, that I was going to start a diet and exercise program. I was going to wake up before 9 every morning, and eat 2 eggs for breakfast with green tea pills. Following that I would use a "protein shake" and "chicken salad" approach along with a minimum of an hour at the gym EVERY day. I was going for it. And because I told everyone I knew, and even people I didn't know, I kept myself in check. 6 months later, and still today, I sit at 175 lbs.
Now here I am, with my next goal, and again, I am telling everyone. I am going to go pro. I have the quick learning potential, and I have the drive. So if your time is best spent trying to bring me down, go fo itr, it's just going to encourage me more. However, if you'd like to be productive, in the "making of a pro", I will appreciate all help and encouragement.
Today I will be playing 12 hours straight. You will find me laddering from 14:30 - 02:30 PST, and yes, the "913 pts" guy that lost quite a few games in a row recently is me. But today begins my intensive training. Today begins the making of a pro.
I hit 1100 today! When I started this blog, I was at ~920, and through some practice, as well as studying games, I managed to win all but 1 of my ZvP games, as well as kicked ass in a lot of ZvZ and ZvT. Reaper rushes are still giving me some trouble, but I'm getting pretty solid. It's not the reapers that give me trouble, it's figuring out the best transition. From what I've been learning, the less roaches you can defend with the better, because you want a lot of lings, and gas for mutas asap against the maurader force!
I do appreciate the positive wishes of goodluck, and to all of you "haters", I'm a skeptic to most claims too, so I understand. I can see the interpretations of "lies" on my part, but I assure you, I was a bit excited when I wrote this post, and wasn't trying to deceive. TL is a tough crowd, but hopefully, in the coming months I can prove my worth. So far so good, and I shall keep up the practice! I have been lucky enough to befriend some 1500+ practice partners. Shoutouts to Stalife and Ryze especially!
Good luck to all, and I hope to hit 1150 tonight, and 1200 by tomorrow!
Although I still don't have my "pro schedule", thanks to my work change not happening until the 27th, I'm getting a lot of practice in! My reapers are almost a worry of the past for me, as I'm really figuring out a lot of neat tricks to allow my micro to not have to be so intensive, as well as not need to go so overboard on roaches and almost force a counter attack to have any chance of winning. In the beginning, to be honest, I made this thread as an encouragement to myself, but it's becoming more and more of a reality. I joined an awesome clan that's helping me out, (Eternal Sphere Gaming, a WC3 -> SC2 clan), and I'm having a blast. Everyone keeps telling me I can hit top 200 by the end of this month, and I think so too. So wish me luck, because if all goes well, you'll see me in the top 200 pretty soon!
If you're following the pattern, you'll probably guess it... 1300!
1300 Points, and 5th in my division. It's pretty sweet, because I'm just powering through now, with a loss here and there from stupid shit. I'm mass gaming, but not on the ladder. I'm practicing with clan-mates, and other high levels to get my confidence up, and get my mechanics down (in the good way ). When I finally feel confident, I go to the ladder and play a couple to a few games. For the most part I'm winning my ladder games, with a loss here and there (surprisingly none to T from 1200-1300 O.o). I've been practicing my ZvT and ZvP so much, that I'm finding I'm losing ZvZs more than anything. I'm going to be working on that for the next few days, as well as a vT and vP here and there. It hasn't even been 2 weeks, and I'm already improving quick, and I know as much as ever that I can and will go pro! Wish me luck!
It only took a week. There is a huge positive though, which is that out of the 40 or so games I've played in the last few days, I've lost to Terran twice (out of probably about 15 games). My biggest weakness is still ZvZ, and it's really hurting me. My strength is my macro, but my micro still needs a lot of work, and in ZvZ that really comes out. ZvP seems to be about 50-50 for me. When I scout properly all-game, I can usually pull through, but some games, I just get caught off guard. I remember one game I got tester pylon walled, and won with ease with a quick nydus/roach rush; the next game I tried the same, but he was one basing afterwards, and went heavy stalkers. That's another stubborn trait I need to work on, is realizing when a lesson is game-specific, and when I can carry it through further games (and also, just always scout, assume as little as possible).
In regards to ZvT, I'm having A LOT of success with a 14 hatch -> 15 (or 16) pool opening. I drone to 18, then ovie, followed by double queen into roach warren/gas. From there I get just enough roaches to fend off the attack (reapers or hellions), and my ovie/roach placement is getting awesome, I'm quite proud of myself. Afterwards, I drone hard, gas up, and lair up as quickly as possible, followed by an overseer. This serves to scout exactly what he's doing, as well as keep me safe for a cloaked banshee rush. I throw down a spire against most things, and if I don't see much maurader, I go for a HUGE roach push (20+). I often end it right there, (it's amazing how many T get thrown off) and if not, my macro tends to take me into late game nicely.
I have a couple high level ZvZ practice partners, but I'm still grasping to have a "plan". Mutas seem to only go so far (two infestors and you're toast), and spine crawlers seem to be the bane of my existance. The safest thing I've found tbh, is to go 11 pool -> banes and hope my micro is better. If any high level Zs have revelations they can share with me, I'd appreciate it.
Finally, ZvP has this weird feel to me. Every 4-gate seems to be different, and one build seems to work against a 4-gate, and then completely fail against the next. So far, the most successful build I've come across is a gas before pool, 19 expand, speed->lair fast hydra build. However, some P are just SOOOO good with force fields, that I just want to throw my keyboard at some times. Other times, they'll do an attack just as my den is finishing, and I'm screwed. A lot of this is map dependant. It seems everytime I play a toss, it's on Xel' Naga, and spining for defense is really tough to pull off on that map. Again, any tips would be appreciated.
I think I'm really going to focus on my micro over the next couple of days, and I should be well into the 1400s in no time. Wish me luck guys!
So, I've decided I'm going to do daily updates now. Hopefully this will add more of an "intimate" feel to the blog. I've also decided my goal, now that I have started my heavy practice schedule, is to get 50 points a day. In the spirit of this, I am now 1450!
The most recent feedback I've gotten is to post my "regional rank" instead of my points, as everyone gains points. I will try to do this when I can, but I have to wait for SC2ranks to update, and points are known in real-time.
I've been winning a lot more now that I'm on a regular exercise schedule, as well as taking regular breaks. However... my ZvZ is still TERRIBLE. My ZvP seems to be improving, as I'm starting to read the builds a lot better, as well as constantly scout, and spread my ovies. I've also made a regular habit of getting a 3rd queen JUST to spread creep tumors. It's amazingly effective, I recommend every Zerg tries it.
So I promised to do daily updates, and the day after I hit some relationship issues. As such, my will to game in the last few days hasn't been too high. I would play a game here and there, and unsurprisingly, I lost every time.
Today things are getting a lot better though, so I played a bunch more. I evened myself out with the bonus pool, lost to some stupid things, merely because I need to get back into gear, and my mind still isn't fully clear. The road is still paved though, so I'm not letting this be a wall, only a hurdle. I will try to make daily updates again, minus Sun/mon as something important is happening those days. Wish me luck guys!\
Today was a pretty productive day in the world of Starcraft 2, for me. I played A LOT of games, and learned some pretty cool tricks. I hit 1550, as well as beat a Z that was higher ranked than me (a first, as my ZvZ is still utter shit, and is the sole reason I'm hesitant to join tournaments). However, beginning next friday, I will be signing up for as many tournaments as I can, so look forward to hearing results of those, and while I probably won't be winning any, hopefully it'll get me used to a tournament style, and teach me some useful lessons.
The next 2 days, I will be tending to private matters, and then it'll be back to the grind for me. If anyone is a "top diamond" player on either the US or EU server, and would like to get some games in, feel free to add Wicked.169(US) or Wicked.180(EU).
Thanks for my continued supporters, and those that check back to see how I'm doing! Science Bless!
It has been a week, even though I said it would take 2 days to take care of my private matters (being a close family member's death). Unfortunately my mother really wasn't doing well, so I stayed longer than expected. I actually managed to get a couple games in, since I was able to install SC2 on her computer, but it's not the greatest, and I could only stand it for so long. So now I am finally back!
And after much reflection, and getting back into it... ZvZ is all of a sudden my best matchup O.o I decided to try something new, and wow, it works AMAZINGLY. I used to be a very aggressive ZvZ player, trying to take out drones, and get hits here and there, but I've found it's surprisingly hard to do enough damage to make it worth it if the player is good. So instead, I've taken a defensive "reactive" approach, and holy shit does it work like a charm! I've been winning ZvZs left and right, and it's amazing. Logically, it makes a lot of sense. Zerg in SC2 is designed to be the reactive race to an extent. In ZvZ, the macro edge is key, and when you're reacting, you're ALWAYS going to be ahead in drones (if you're doing it right), and that gives you a huge advantage. I also like going early double upgrades for range/armor. I time attacks at 2/2 and almost always overwhelm them with roach/hydra/infestor. It's beautiful, and I love it!
I'm starting to learn and embrace the reactive style over-all, and I'm finding a huge amount of success. You scout a lot more with just the mindset of reacting defensively, which gives you a huge edge. You also deny a lot of scouting on their part, where-as when you're too aggressive, often times they'll go around and sneak some in. I even get an overseer for my base to pick off observers :D I hit 1600, and my goal by the end of next week is 1800. I'm also going to sign up for a few tournaments, so I can be nice and ready to pwn some noobs at Blizzcon!
This time I'm going to TRY and do daily updates again... I SWEAR! So, back to grinding I go! GL HF GUYS!
For those of you knit-pickers, yes, I am writing this on the following day. The reason for this being yesterday was probably the most frustrating day of SC2 ever. I lost SOOOOOOO many games. The only upside was that I started my day with reformatting my computer, which sped it up quite a bit, and allowed me to start being able to Livestream again. I did ~25 practice PvZ games with a friend whose quite a good player, and usually I can take a few games off of him. However, yesterday I couldn't. I took one game on Scrap Station, and that was it. He was even beating me with dumb cheese that normally gives me no problems what-so-ever. Despite this, I kept playing, and playing, eventually turning my livestream off because it was so embarassing, but I just couldn't do it. I made up for it with an instant win this morning though, and now I feel much better. I guess it was just one of those days.
For those of you that don't want to go searching for it, I got temp banned for making a silly comment, and that's all I'm going to say.
During that time I couldn't update my stream status, which was sad, but also gave me time to practice "less interesting" things. I actually took a little side break to practice my timing/mechanics. By this, I mean I've been using the computer and unit tester to get everything down pat. Something that I want to be able to do is have the creep spread WHILE macroing of Idra, which is quite a feat. Remembering to spread creep WHILE doing everything else is surprisingly difficult to master. However, I've been getting a lot better. I've also been fine tuning my builds, and doing a lot of theorycraft. After Blizzcon I'll go back to hardcore laddering, but this has been quite a fun and enlightening "break" from mass gaming.
at least give a win percentage with your "rank". i destroy so many 1k players and i am only at 600 -.- and some other stuff thats wrong but i am too tired...
yea this is clearly a copy-troll from someone afew weeks ago who did the same post on here.. someone said like "Im a silver player now, but im gonna be pro in afew months".. and yea, same thing basically.
Its not as easy as just saying "im gonna be pro".. you basically have to just keep playing and hope you perform well in tournies, because without that you wont have any chance at all. Dont bank on being a pro, just keep playing and maybe someday you'll win some tourneys.
On September 06 2010 19:59 Skyze wrote: yea this is clearly a copy-troll from someone afew weeks ago who did the same post on here.. someone said like "Im a silver player now, but im gonna be pro in afew months".. and yea, same thing basically.
Its not as easy as just saying "im gonna be pro".. you basically have to just keep playing and hope you perform well in tournies, because without that you wont have any chance at all. Dont bank on being a pro, just keep playing and maybe someday you'll win some tourneys.
This is no "copy-troll". I never knew such a thread existred. I am 100% serious, and you will soon be eating your words.
Everyone will be pro gamer one day, it's simple...but you better practice 80 hours a week and do not eat to prevent wasting time. Good luck (so we shall not call you forgottenone, but wicked)
Fuck these people telling you it can't be done. Maybe it can't. But you are gonna bring all your resources to battle and find out. Give 'em hell, Wicked!
the fact that youre here writing is fail, nal_ra said after he failed the OSL prelims and was headed for the military that it was the first time he used the computer to browse the internet. Thats 3 months of sitting at the computer doing nothing but practicing.
On September 06 2010 22:26 Desutroyah wrote: the fact that youre here writing is fail, nal_ra said after he failed the OSL prelims and was headed for the military that it was the first time he used the computer to browse the internet. Thats 3 months of sitting at the computer doing nothing but practicing.
Thats the mark of a PROgamer.
Basically this. Look at some of the best RTS players, they were/are quite humble/level headed, they didn't start off with the idea of becoming a pro gamer nor did they have to go out of their way to get their name known, because people recognised their talent.
tl;dr you seldom find a great gamer that self-promotes.
If the OP were a bit humbler, then there might have been fewer haters and doubters in here.
A proposition: In 4 months time, if you manage to make a name for yourself as a pro in the SC2 progaming world, then I will declare myself your most pitiful, fawning fan boy. If not, I get all rights to rub the stench of failure all over this blog. Deal?
iccup ranks are succumbing to the same mysterious inflationary forces that pgtour's did after it died.
Something tells me if we saw any replays his 300 apm that left his friends stupefied with how incredibly fast his hand speed had become would be closer to half that
I don't really get why you are only 1k given the big amount of talk you have.
Honestly, 1k doesn't really even mean you're decent. Clearly your ladder ranking isn't indicating how good you claim to be. I'm 1.1k diamond Z and I wouldn't say I'm decent or anything; I just play casually. You're not even winning ladder games yet, what evidence is there that you have what it takes to be pro?
Best of luck. I'm glad that you have the passion to strive to become a 'progamer' but it's just not easy to do it, even if you decide to play 10+ hours a day.
@Jono, I am waiting to enter the tournaments until I feel fully comfortable defending against reaper rushes, and fully master my 3-gate to collosus transition in ZvP.
Imo less time posting a blog on random crap. More time playing and winning. I'd be happy to read your drama story after you make a name for yourself, otherwise your just lost in the crowd of hundreds + claiming they will go Pro.
Let me get this straight, you hydra busted ZvP only to C rank, think you're boss, and decide to be a progamer? Why/When did you stop playing iccup? and most of all, What is your iccup account?
Broodwar is a hell of a lot harder than sc2, if C+ is the best you can do, you're not starting on the right foot
On September 07 2010 06:24 forgotten0ne wrote: @Jono, I am waiting to enter the tournaments until I feel fully comfortable defending against reaper rushes, and fully master my 3-gate to collosus transition in ZvP.
Wait.
On September 06 2010 19:43 forgotten0ne wrote: I can defend a 1500 T reaper harass.
Too many haters in this blog. He's got the proper mentality to achieve the goal he wants. Whether or not he will actually achieve it is a different story and the odds are against him, but you gotta at least appreciate the effort he's putting in. Good luck buddy.
On September 07 2010 08:40 lvatural wrote: Too many haters in this blog. He's got the proper mentality to achieve the goal he wants. Whether or not he will actually achieve it is a different story and the odds are against him, but you gotta at least appreciate the effort he's putting in. Good luck buddy.
Is the proper mentality to lie about every single detail of your post and then cover it up with more lies? Is Achieving your goals at the sacrifice of others and your own integrity the "proper mentality?" I think it's disgusting and disgraceful. I've seen this story play out before, first they lie about everything. Then they fail. Then they start winning. Then it turns out they maphacked, or rigged maps, or traded wins because they weren't good enough.
I look forward to never seeing his name in the finals of a tournament.
^^ I just see a guy dedicating his time/effort/etc. to the fullest in achieving his goal. You don't find that often...anywhere really. Naturally, becoming a pro requires more than will and determination, so like I said, g'luck to him.
I don't know where you're getting the lying and sacrificing others bit (other than the C+ bit in here which could have been as he explained). I'm just responding to the face of things since that is all I really know about the user.
On September 07 2010 08:40 lvatural wrote: Too many haters in this blog. He's got the proper mentality to achieve the goal he wants. Whether or not he will actually achieve it is a different story and the odds are against him, but you gotta at least appreciate the effort he's putting in. Good luck buddy.
Is the proper mentality to lie about every single detail of your post and then cover it up with more lies? Is Achieving your goals at the sacrifice of others and your own integrity the "proper mentality?" I think it's disgusting and disgraceful. I've seen this story play out before, first they lie about everything. Then they fail. Then they start winning. Then it turns out they maphacked, or rigged maps, or traded wins because they weren't good enough.
I look forward to never seeing his name in the finals of a tournament.
This.
Lied about iccup Lied about sc2 diamond points Probably lying about APM
and finally, unintentially lying about becoming a pro.
- guy played Brood War, altrough it was a hard game - same guy plays WoL, realises its easier - since he was able to play the harder game he decides to go pro
What will happen is:
- guy forgets that people who were able to play BW at a pro level also decide to switch to WoL, and also find it easier, not that they care - guy epicly fails chasing a wild dream
On the other hand, do you really want to become a pro gamer? Doesnt seem like much of a life to me oO
I'm sorry but the greatest part of the original post was: Finally, I told everyone I knew, that I was going to start a diet and exercise program. I was going to wake up before 9 every morning, and eat 2 eggs for breakfast with green tea pills. Following that I would use a "protein shake" and "chicken salad" approach along with a minimum of an hour at the gym EVERY day
Holy shit! Waking up before 9am wow, that takes such self discipline.
Hey Killerbot, my girlfriend would set every single clock in the house forward and hide my phone if she needed to get me up before 9 AM. Have some respect for this guys effort.
Honestly, if you were really legit, you wouldn't post this stupid crap. Everyone else that's any good is too busy playing, and talking about this shit with the people they practice with.
Good luck if you're for real, but I'm not buying it.
On September 07 2010 08:40 lvatural wrote: Too many haters in this blog. He's got the proper mentality to achieve the goal he wants. Whether or not he will actually achieve it is a different story and the odds are against him, but you gotta at least appreciate the effort he's putting in. Good luck buddy.
Is the proper mentality to lie about every single detail of your post and then cover it up with more lies? Is Achieving your goals at the sacrifice of others and your own integrity the "proper mentality?" I think it's disgusting and disgraceful. I've seen this story play out before, first they lie about everything. Then they fail. Then they start winning. Then it turns out they maphacked, or rigged maps, or traded wins because they weren't good enough.
I look forward to never seeing his name in the finals of a tournament.
On September 07 2010 08:40 lvatural wrote: Too many haters in this blog. He's got the proper mentality to achieve the goal he wants. Whether or not he will actually achieve it is a different story and the odds are against him, but you gotta at least appreciate the effort he's putting in. Good luck buddy.
Is the proper mentality to lie about every single detail of your post and then cover it up with more lies? Is Achieving your goals at the sacrifice of others and your own integrity the "proper mentality?" I think it's disgusting and disgraceful. I've seen this story play out before, first they lie about everything. Then they fail. Then they start winning. Then it turns out they maphacked, or rigged maps, or traded wins because they weren't good enough.
I look forward to never seeing his name in the finals of a tournament.
Lastshadow #2 here we come!
Be nice, at least LS is doing really well in SC2 now.
"Pros don't say they're going to go pro!" - for a reason. If you're going to do it, just do it. You don't need anyone's approval. If some people find out, then great.
and qft @ the video someone posted of that guy describing what your brain does when you do this type of thing.
On September 11 2010 09:05 baller wrote: hey guys i plan to get a medical research degree at MIT and cure cancer
plz shower me with attention now
Baller, you are my hero. Curing cancer is as easy as 1a, I bet you'll get it in 4 months.
Anyways, on a more serious note, I smell such bullshit here. Maybe it's because you are so arrogant, or perhaps it's the lack of evidence(maybe both?) but I do not believe you one bit. If for some reason you do happen to go pro, I will happily eat my words. As they say, the winners write history.
*edit* You are right huameng, for some reason this was a mixup on my part. I tried to make ForgottenOne, which was taken. IIRC they post your rank by the end of the season, and I was reminded that in fact I just barely made it to C (something like 20 and 6), and not C+. After that point I lost a bunch of games trying to play real games. I was never *amazing* at Starcraft 1. This is still not the point of my post, and was not intentional deception on my part. Apologies.
On September 07 2010 11:51 krndandaman wrote: oh btw, 20-6 is not even close to C+. that's barely C-
I went 17-1 on my account, playing on ALL maps of the week as well as beating people a rank or 2 higher, and I only got to C- 3200 points. you'll need like a 35 to 40-6 with motw to get C+.
my friend had 45-6 and that barely hit B-.
you're lying about iccup, why should anyone take anything else you say seriously?
lol but if you want to make this post serious, you should do like "if I'm not a progamer by the end of 4months starting today, I will be IP banned from teamliquid forever"
The idea that you went 20-6 then preceded to go 5-34 to finish 25-40 is pretty laughable. At every stage your story has changed but been proven bogus. If I was you I'd just come clean and admit you were pretty bad at sc1 but that you're trying really hard for sc2. Compulsive lying isn't going to make you happy - on the net or in life.
i wish you luck and hope you do well but generally people that do what you do win some random weekly tournament then spend the rest of there "career" bragging to everyone they know or knew about how they beat player a, player b, player c, in this one weekly tournament and never post any real results.
Ugh I wish I didn't smell so much troll... I would love for you to succed if this was real, heck every sport needs an egomaniac. But there is just not enough evidence to convince me, I have a feeling that in like two weeks this dude will come out and say "loltrolled" then leave.
60 hours a week for something you are going to get paid very little if anything to do. Very few can make a living off this kind off "progaming" and those that do, won't be able to do it long enough for it to have been worth the investment.
I just really hope you aren't a college dropout or a guy that lives with his parents. All I know is there's no way you are paying your own bills or studying when you dedicate so much to you probably won't succeed in.
edit: also if you were any good at BW(saying you were C level) you would actually be good at SC2. But 1k is really nothing, I was barely C- in BW, and have 1.4k Diamond with barely over 200 games played.
I find your name ironic given the situation If you're only at 1100 points after playing since beta day 1, you're not going to be able to go pro. Then again, I don't know how much you played between then and now.
That doesn't mean you won't be able to reach a decent enough level to compete in tournaments through hard work and dedication, I'm just saying you won't be the best.
I actually really like this blog. Your astounding claims of future skill can be a little off-putting, but it's great to see someone pushing toward a goal like this with such commitment. Best of luck to you.
On September 15 2010 11:24 aimaimaim wrote: SC2 progamers??
SC2 wont even have proteams .. lol
I still don't get this argument. "Pro tennis players? Tennis doesn't even have proteams..." Obviously SC2 is not as big, but it's not like it's completely impossible.
Good luck. You progress is pretty impressive so far. No need to pay attention to haters. Most people are just average and won't understand. You're not.
On September 15 2010 11:24 aimaimaim wrote: SC2 progamers??
SC2 wont even have proteams .. lol
Kinda weird how there are already 2 Korean SC2 proteams, ain't it?
IMO,proteams need to have a legit sponsor in order to be a team in my eyes
This thread is lolish. most people bragblog after they are successful vs before. Most of the ones that create bragblogs before hand usually end up failing. Just look at TL asian girl threads.
hey just curious.,,assuming you played tf2 a year or so ago...which team were you on?
Even though this seems like a hardcore brag post..i agree it is sometimes good to post optimistic things and tell others about your goals so youre more motivated.
Oh and I think you shouldn't place too much of a emphasis on the points thing since theres the whole bonus pool making you go up in points no matter what. While points are a slight milestone, you shouldnt solely focus on it but instead try to join as many tournaments (whether it be online or local) so you can to both get your name out and see where you truly stand with the other tournament level players.
You should measure your development by your NA ranking on the ladder, not by diamond points since, as llama says, the bonus pool inflates you. It looks
It looks like for the last 3 weeks, your ranking hasnt improved much.
Oh funny i was around looking for cool threads on TL.net when i saw this one. I played you I guess, well unless there are a lot of wicked zerg in the 1K to 1K5 range .
You stomped me though since my PvZ is uter shit at the moment... should work on it seriously since my PvT is very good with the FE thing and my PvP is ok (though i rely on cheese too much since I'm fed up with colossus battles).
On September 26 2010 15:31 kzn wrote: Out of curiosity, what precisely is your practice schedule/plan?
Starting tomorrow, it's ~60 hours of training a week. Sun/mon are both 12 hours, with breaks for food, and an hour of working out (not included in the 12). Tues-Thurs I work 10 hours, and practice 4-6 hours when I get home, depending on how tired I am. Fri/Sat are the same as Sun/Mon. My girlfriend is very supportive, while she is finishing up her nursing school, and doing a "residency".
Also, The 12 hours of practice includes play, replay watching, and observing other high level games.
I feel obligated to post here because only a couple of years ago (and this is hard for me to say), I was exactly like this guy. I had the same plans of practicing 80 hours a week just like the pros, I had the same plan to get up at the crack of dawn and go on a diet and start working out, I had the same unshakable belief that my inexhaustible talent would carry me through, and I made the same kind of embarassing post. Hell, I even look like him.
You can ask incontrol, a few years back on my alt account Amaroq, I sent most of the good foreign bw players this long PM proclaiming my certain-to-be-fulfilled goals of becoming a pro that would be "1000 times as good as boxer ever was" at SC2 (the beta being unreleased at that point, I was practicing bw in anticipation). If you really want a good laugh, maybe one of the players I sent the PM to will post it.
But what I'm getting at is that I've been in this guy's shoes, and he is not a troll, he really believes he is this undiscovered genius. forgotten0ne, I know you wont listen to this because I wouldn't have either, but you need to realize that you are gratifying yourself but ultimately destroying any chance you had of excelling. The TED link a few pages back does an unbelievable job explaining the effect that he is, and I was, feeding off of.
Ever since I got over that ridiculous phase, I've been so embarassed about it that I made this new account and didn't introduce myself to any people from TL at Blizzcon out of fear. I guess this post is me finally exonerating myself from this once and for all.
Just so you know there has been research that shows that the effect 'natural talent' has on a person's success diminishes the longer they work at that thing ('The 10,000 Hour Rule' based on research by Anders Ericsson). In other words, if you and I both played 10,000 hours of SC2 with equally good practice we would probably be quite similar in skill.
Basically, be aware that all these (implied) claims of being naturally better actually don't mean a lot. It would pay to show a bit more humility, if only for your own sake.
I'm not saying you won't make it either. It's just something to consider when bringing up all this 'natural talent' stuff.
By the way, there were no exceptions to Anders Ericsson's research.
VERY cool Wicked! I used to follow your streams and I always did think you were a great player though your weaknesses were that you almost always forgot about that scouting ovie and it would die followed by you raging about it a bit lol. Oh and the godaweful Techno music
I'm glad to hear that your general game has improved. Looking forward to more updates!
if you would put half of this effort into a real career, you would be making so much more money, and actually have a future. I am glad that you are improving, but i feel that you need to look a little farther down the road here....
I rarely play SC2 and maintain ~1200 points. I'm sorry to say, but if there is anything else in your life that you can do, you should pursue that, like school. I hate to be one to stomp on someone's dreams but pro gaming is something else entirely and is not just for everyone.
On September 27 2010 17:19 Swede wrote: By the way, there were no exceptions to Anders Ericsson's research.
This is patently false. The "best" people in any field are consistently better than their professional peers, regardless of how much everyone else practices. Think chess, classical music, go, sports, etc.
On September 27 2010 17:19 Swede wrote: By the way, there were no exceptions to Anders Ericsson's research.
This is patently false. The "best" people in any field are consistently better than their professional peers, regardless of how much everyone else practices. Think chess, classical music, go, sports, etc.
I only said that there were no exceptions in Anders Ericsson's research. Of course there will be the occasional exception throughout the timeline of a given subject, but the point is that the exceptions are rare and in general 'talent' will make less of a difference over time.
Also, obviously it doesn't apply to some things. You can't be a heavy weight boxer if you weigh 60kg.
I think it is cool that you posted your goals/plans here, and have put in effort towards them. The few people with the confidence to do that get more personal fulfillment out of their life than those who do not.
you have a good trip with this! I support you in becoming a pro gamer! you'll have to get a lot of practice partners as well besides playing ladder. Man, so good to be young.
1500 rating? if u get past 1700 ill be impressed. just saying... also is there any one good in your division league? like well known or a bunch of random? (not being rude) im just curious because alot of plat divisions are easy. and alot are harder
I was at 1650, but as you hopefully read, yesterday was a HUUUGGGEEE losing spree. My division has no big names, no, but in regards to points that really doesn't matter. Nowhere have I said "Rank 3 in my division".
well, it's been 2 months (half of the 4 month time span mentioned in the OP) and I was just looking for another update from f0rg0tten0ne. Have you broke 2,000 yet? don't stop updating this please, as I, and I'm sure many others, are interested in your progress.
On November 04 2010 23:41 zOula... wrote: well, it's been 2 months (half of the 4 month time span mentioned in the OP) and I was just looking for another update from f0rg0tten0ne. Have you broke 2,000 yet? don't stop updating this please, as I, and I'm sure many others, are interested in your progress.
Was wondering where this blog was, I remember reading it when I first started playing SC2... Not to be a downer, but it doesn't seem to be working, try going doing online tourneys, ones you don't need to travel to, there are plenty and that would help your name get out there.
SC2 is the first RTS I've ever played (competitively). I went from silver to diamond in 2 weeks, thank you Day9. I'm now a mid diamond level player but I don't have the opportunity to mass game so I don't really know where I stand. Do I think I'm going to be a progamer? No. I wish you the best but you shouldn't be so quick to assume you are somehow special and going to make a big splash in the sc2 scene. Im not trying to be mean but I really think you need to be more realistic and/or honest with yourself. Cheers. Zerg fighting!
i honestly believe you should at least be over 2000 to be good as the other pros nowadays so if you're 1700 points as the sc2ranks.com tells me you gotta work harder than what youre doing now to be pro unless you given up not saying this to get you down but you don't look that impressive to me from the way you're looking now
Well, it's been four months and the OP said we would have heard of him by now (or he would have at least won a tournament or something?). It seems he has failed in this goal, as I've bumped this thread a few times and asked for updates, only to be ignored by the OP. I've also PM'd the OP and asked about his progress in this regard, also to be ignored.
It would seem that f0rg0tten0ne will never be a pro-gamer, and in fact doesnt even seem to be very good at all (he never even broke 2000 points?). Not really sure why I'm bumping this again, but I actually followed this thread over the last four months and was interested in the progress of the OP. I guess I was just hoping that after creating a thread like this the OP would at least have the decency to update us on his progress or the balls to admit defeat.
On January 06 2011 09:50 Liquid`Drone wrote: give up trying to be a progamer not (only) because you're silver, but because you've played 400 games. this shows me that you don't have the time or dedication to overcome your lacking experience. if you were really trying to go pro you should have 4000 games by now.
some players that were great at bw are 3k+ diamond with 400 games and for those the train hasn't completely sailed because if they start massgaming they're gonna be great soon, but for someone that lacks both the natural ability / rts experience and the willpower to play and play and play and play and play and play and play and play and play and play every day, there's no hope of being a top player.
I think this post from another thread pretty much sums up this thread. You can say you're gonna go pro, but if you don't put in the time...and aren't already massively gosu or had the background...then it's gonna be impossible to go pro.
On January 06 2011 16:43 Foxt wrote: I am not saying i will be pro gamer, I am just saying that there should not be any walls to preventing me from evolving in that level.
you are the wall.. let's look at it this way, as I can clearly see that you're disheartened by this thread
you're at 400 1v1 games now can you be at 600 in 5 days? 800 in 10 days? 1600 in 1 month? that's the kind of dedication you will need; 40 games every single day. on top of those 40 games per day, you need some degree of natural ability or understanding. (if you were watching GSL now, you'd see one of the players say that he practices for 10 hours per day. this is the norm, nothing unique about it. ) considering that lots of players practice that much; what separates them? natural ability/rts experience.. I've only played about 400 1v1 games in sc2 - I'm 3000 diamond. this is because 14-12 years ago, I was playing warcraft 2. before that I played dune 2 and warcraft 1. after that, from 1998 until 2010, I played brood war. 15 years of rts experience isn't something you're going to overcome easily..
basically, I think being a successful progamer will be impossible for you to achieve during the next two years. if you play 10 hours per day for the next two years, you might be getting somewhere, but do you really think this is easier than going to school? it's way, way harder. try playing 10 hours per day for the next two weeks, see if you're able to do it. (I mean constantly gaming 1v1- not sitting in front of your computer for 10 hours and playing 1 game every hour.) if you're not able to do that for two weeks (and frankly, I think you won't be - we're talking at least 5-600 games in 2 weeks here), then you certainly cannot do it for 2 years.
On January 06 2011 20:01 Liquid`Drone wrote: additionally, you seemed a little confused about the term "natural ability" before, or "talent". what is meant by natural ability is essentially a combination of three or so terms ; dedication intelligence speed
dedication refers to your ability to practice sufficiently. this is often omitted or disregarded when people talk about talent or natural ability as people essentially consider practicing like a madman the opposite of being talented - but not everyone is capable of practicing like a madman. nonetheless, it's probably the most important skillset you can have to become good. intelligence, in a game like sc2, deals with two aspects; how quickly you grasp the various concepts of the game, and how your decisionmaking is. to some degree intelligence and experience are very similar - in sc2 you will normally have encountered anything you see on a multitude of occasions and thus you can make decisions based on previous encounters rather than through quick thinking, but being intelligent may enable you to counter something you haven't seen before, or to come up with a counter faster, or to come up with new strategies. in a game like sc2, being highly intelligent is not really that important to become good because there are so many tools around to help you improve if you just put enough time in, but imagine if there were no vods, no daily day9, no replays and no strategy guides, and people individually had to understand the various concepts of the game. it'd be the most important trait to have. nonetheless, at the highest level, everyone is pretty smart or smarter than pretty smart. speed; to perform every action required for optimal play, you gotta be fast. no way around it.. while you do become faster through playing, some people have a hard time ever getting above 150 apm no matter how hard they try(not how hard they spam), while others find 250 relaxing.
this will be the most quoted message ever in all of the "I wanna be pro gamer" thread
On January 07 2011 12:04 zOula... wrote: Well, it's been four months and the OP said we would have heard of him by now (or he would have at least won a tournament or something?). It seems he has failed in this goal, as I've bumped this thread a few times and asked for updates, only to be ignored by the OP. I've also PM'd the OP and asked about his progress in this regard, also to be ignored.
It would seem that f0rg0tten0ne will never be a pro-gamer, and in fact doesnt even seem to be very good at all (he never even broke 2000 points?). Not really sure why I'm bumping this again, but I actually followed this thread over the last four months and was interested in the progress of the OP. I guess I was just hoping that after creating a thread like this the OP would at least have the decency to update us on his progress or the balls to admit defeat.
Anyway, I'm not impressed.
Yeah, I remember reading this a few months ago too and was pretty interested in how much he'd succeed.
After reading your post I thought that maybe he just hasn't been visiting TL recently...
EPT
). I never stopped PC gaming, and eventually wound up playing competitive UT99. After dominating some minor league stuff, I tried for something bigger league, but got caught in a "scandal" being a 14 year old caught in a "16+ league". Shortly after I switched to Q3 where I did some minor competing, and following that Team Fortress 2. A year and a half ago, a good friend of mine that I went to LANS with, Mike Lamond (you may have heard of him, maybe Husky rings a better bell?) introduced me to SC1. The following 6 months were spent getting my ass handed to me on a silver platter in countless ZvP games. I then proceeded to try my hand at ICCUP, and managed to get C in 2 months (this was around December of last year). I also had a major edge that was becoming more prominent; in that short amount of time, I had developed an apm of around 300 (BWReplay apm). My friends were all dumbfounded with my quick development of such a high apm, as well as how quickly I picked up the game with little experience.
If you're only at 1100 points after playing since beta day 1, you're not going to be able to go pro. Then again, I don't know how much you played between then and now.
