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Hectic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia159 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 07:32:05
August 29 2010 06:31 GMT
#1
OK im going to edit this completely because i came off the wrong way at first.

I really appreciate all the hard work and time people put into organising competitions.

I really love to watch vods of the fantastic games from compeitions, but often find that they are difficult to locate. Sadly, after looking for only a small ammount of time, I often give up and don't see the matches.

I'm suggesting that it might be beneficial to locate links for tournament vods in more logical and easy to find places. Possibly in bright flashing font, for 'retards' like myself.

I often go to the "SC2 Tourneys" forum, locate the relevant thread, and then look for the vods, or a link to a website which may have the vods. Often, the vods show up later in a completely different thread possibly in the news forum.

I think TL community run events are the most easy for me to find and watch. Often evens run by outside organisations are a pain to find vods for as far as im concerned.


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Only if you beleive.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 29 2010 06:35 GMT
#2
Thanks for your constructive criticism, but the problem isn't with the sites, it's with you.

If you weren't retarded you'd realize every game is on TL.net.
why so 진지해?
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 29 2010 06:35 GMT
#3
How is this constructive criticism if you don't say anything specific?
WHAT vods are you looking for? I found MSL Finals VODs in roughly 3 seconds this morning.
WHY must you use this site? No one's keeping your from going somewhere else. I don't like to pull out the "it's a free service" card, but in your case you seriously need to get rid of your sense of entitlement.
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Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
August 29 2010 06:39 GMT
#4
On August 29 2010 15:35 Rekrul wrote:
Thanks for your constructive criticism, but the problem isn't with the sites, it's with you.

If you weren't retarded you'd realize every game is on TL.net.


AHAHAHAHAHA, Don't get me wrong, I'm as shitty of a poster as he is but this comment is just beautiful.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 29 2010 06:43 GMT
#5
On August 29 2010 15:39 Laerties wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 15:35 Rekrul wrote:
Thanks for your constructive criticism, but the problem isn't with the sites, it's with you.

If you weren't retarded you'd realize every game is on TL.net.


AHAHAHAHAHA, Don't get me wrong, I'm as shitty of a poster as he is but this comment is just beautiful.


Dont you ever call Rekrul a shitty poster!
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 29 2010 06:52 GMT
#6
stuff isn't very hard to find..we even have a calender and a tourney tracker.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
August 29 2010 06:58 GMT
#7
I'm going to assume he's talking about mlg vods.
skating
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24784 Posts
August 29 2010 07:00 GMT
#8
I find tl can sometimes be overwhelming for finding stuff like vods, results, etc, especially if you are new don't know what sections are available or how things are generally organized.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Hectic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia159 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 07:04:44
August 29 2010 07:00 GMT
#9
thanks rekrul.

I realise all the games are here on TL.net, thats why i posted here. I'm just stating my opinion, which is that they are sometimes difficult to locate within the site.

For all we know, there could be a load of other people with the same problem as myself, who do not even have accounts registered on TL. People reading the blog posts are likely to be very familiar with the TL layout, hence i would expect a bias in replies to this thread.

Despite this, i hope that people might be open to the idea that for people who are not hardcore TL'ers might have difficulty in locating vods.

I'm sure most of us want to see the esports scene grow as fast as possible, and to me it seems that something as simple as ensuring that links are in logical and easy to find places could possibly make a big difference to the ammount of viewers.
Only if you beleive.
Felka
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands87 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 07:03:19
August 29 2010 07:02 GMT
#10
There is actually an sc2 small vod thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 07:06:06
August 29 2010 07:04 GMT
#11
....Its not that hard.... to find VOD's really.

The new Teamliquid is much easier to find VOD's

Edit: i highly doubt you really tried hard to look for VOD.
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Hectic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia159 Posts
August 29 2010 07:06 GMT
#12
On August 29 2010 16:02 Felka wrote:
There is actually an sc2 small vod thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948



this thread requires me to search through 7 pages to find what i want. no thanks. Id rather just fire up sc2 and play some 1v1's.

might sound lazy, but people are lazy.
Only if you beleive.
Felka
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands87 Posts
August 29 2010 07:09 GMT
#13
On August 29 2010 16:06 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 16:02 Felka wrote:
There is actually an sc2 small vod thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948



this thread requires me to search through 7 pages to find what i want. no thanks. Id rather just fire up sc2 and play some 1v1's.

might sound lazy, but people are lazy.


How about you open this thread, click on 'all' to show all 7 pages at once, and then use the find function of your browser.
Hectic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia159 Posts
August 29 2010 07:12 GMT
#14
On August 29 2010 16:04 FraCuS wrote:
....Its not that hard.... to find VOD's really.

The new Teamliquid is much easier to find VOD's

Edit: i highly doubt you really tried hard to look for VOD.



see what your saying? you used the word 'find'

find is a word you use when things go missing, or are a mess, or are somewhere you dont know about.
Only if you beleive.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 29 2010 07:13 GMT
#15
Honestly i think it's too easy to find the vod's, a little less user friendly could be a good noob repellent.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 07:14:31
August 29 2010 07:13 GMT
#16
On August 29 2010 16:09 Felka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 16:06 Hectic wrote:
On August 29 2010 16:02 Felka wrote:
There is actually an sc2 small vod thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948



this thread requires me to search through 7 pages to find what i want. no thanks. Id rather just fire up sc2 and play some 1v1's.

might sound lazy, but people are lazy.


How about you open this thread, click on 'all' to show all 7 pages at once, and then use the find function of your browser.


people are lazy.

really though, which vods are hard for you to find? i usually find them pretty quickly.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 29 2010 07:15 GMT
#17
It's extremely easy to navigate this site and find everything. Just need to get used to looking in the right places.
Life is Good.
DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
August 29 2010 07:15 GMT
#18
On August 29 2010 16:12 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 16:04 FraCuS wrote:
....Its not that hard.... to find VOD's really.

The new Teamliquid is much easier to find VOD's

Edit: i highly doubt you really tried hard to look for VOD.



see what your saying? you used the word 'find'

find is a word you use when things go missing, or are a mess, or are somewhere you dont know about.


Considering the entire SC2 scene has just started, you really should give it more time for organization. There's been maybe a couple major SC2 tournaments so far, yes, everything isn't going to be organized and easy for you to access. You know those BW VODs? They're so easy to find because there's always proleague, and always the two starleagues (though maybe not anymore, aha), and they've been going on for years.

Having to poke around in the relevant thread isn't really all that bad.
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
August 29 2010 07:58 GMT
#19
lold so hard at the title..
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 29 2010 08:09 GMT
#20
On August 29 2010 16:06 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 16:02 Felka wrote:
There is actually an sc2 small vod thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948



this thread requires me to search through 7 pages to find what i want. no thanks. Id rather just fire up sc2 and play some 1v1's.

might sound lazy, but people are lazy.


Then go do that and fuck off...

they are right there for people who aren't so lazy its amazing they manage to feed themselves.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 08:43:02
August 29 2010 08:38 GMT
#21
On August 29 2010 16:06 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 16:02 Felka wrote:
There is actually an sc2 small vod thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948



this thread requires me to search through 7 pages to find what i want. no thanks. Id rather just fire up sc2 and play some 1v1's.

might sound lazy, but people are lazy.

So basically you want a site that reads your mind, determines what you want and gets it for you.

5-starred, 'the problem with esports' can be found in this blog, but it's not what you think it is.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 29 2010 08:39 GMT
#22
On August 29 2010 16:12 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 16:04 FraCuS wrote:
....Its not that hard.... to find VOD's really.

The new Teamliquid is much easier to find VOD's

Edit: i highly doubt you really tried hard to look for VOD.



see what your saying? you used the word 'find'

find is a word you use when things go missing, or are a mess, or are somewhere you dont know about.


Why yes good sir, all your vods are right here. I cannot tell you if it is in slot #117 or slot #120 for the presentation of such information in a Hectic-friendly manner would require more bits than such a restraint allows. So just use search.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
August 29 2010 09:01 GMT
#23
But Sean, that's what I'm for.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
August 29 2010 09:20 GMT
#24
After reading the responses I have to agree with Rekrul. If you cannot be bothered to put 0,1% effort into "finding" VoDs (is clicking two links too much? or four?), then just be lazy, play some games and stop complaining. Problem solved.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 10:08:56
August 29 2010 10:04 GMT
#25
On August 29 2010 16:12 Hectic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 16:04 FraCuS wrote:
....Its not that hard.... to find VOD's really.

The new Teamliquid is much easier to find VOD's

Edit: i highly doubt you really tried hard to look for VOD.



see what your saying? you used the word 'find'

find is a word you use when things go missing, or are a mess, or are somewhere you dont know about.

Wait, what are you expecting? To open the browser with the intention to watch game XYZ, and right as the browser page pops up, game XYZ is there?

Sorry, but this kind of technology is not available for public use yet.


To clarify: "find" on a computer is the process of telling the computer what you want and it gets it for you. If only you could tell your room what you are looking for...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
August 29 2010 10:59 GMT
#26
shitty OP + Rekrul posting = ownage
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
August 29 2010 13:30 GMT
#27
derp...
"hi guys I am a big fan of esports but don´t really care to use 10 seconds of time trying to find the games I want to see"

"ps. your site sucks"
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
August 29 2010 20:19 GMT
#28
On August 29 2010 15:43 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 15:39 Laerties wrote:
On August 29 2010 15:35 Rekrul wrote:
Thanks for your constructive criticism, but the problem isn't with the sites, it's with you.

If you weren't retarded you'd realize every game is on TL.net.


AHAHAHAHAHA, Don't get me wrong, I'm as shitty of a poster as he is but this comment is just beautiful.


Dont you ever call Rekrul a shitty poster!


I meant the OP
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
The PWNion
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada39 Posts
August 29 2010 20:20 GMT
#29
If in doubt, go to IRC and ask!
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FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 29 2010 23:02 GMT
#30
O .O

OP is getting attacked, RUN OP RUN!!!!
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ProFail
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)81 Posts
August 30 2010 01:35 GMT
#31
MLG VoD WHERE?? Really wanting to watch the games and litterally looked everywhere, all that is on MLGpro.com is Saturday night championship and stuff.
Didnt play Beta, Never played any RTS, straight in plat.
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