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Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
August 13 2010 15:56 GMT
#1
Hey guys, ProZeN here. For the past year or so, I've been using the Logitech Mini Optical Mouse for Brood War because it was a cheap mouse and many progamers used it. The mouse was excellent for Brood War in full screen mode albeit I had to get used to it. But because of my Windows 7 Issues, I have to play the game in window mode 2x now. Unfortunately, because of this, my mouse doesn't function as well as it used to in full screen mode, because the mouse scroll speed is reduced significantly. Keep in mind that this is even when I raised my mouse sensitivity in Windows to the max as well as the mouse sensitivity in the Iccup Launcher options.

So my only alternative is to buy a new mouse. I'm going to buy Starcraft 2 soon too and that was a game where the Logitech Mini Optical also didn't really feel right. In my situation, I think I'm going to have to buy a new mouse that has a relatively high DPI for playing in BW Window Mode 2x as well as in Starcraft 2. What's a good mouse you guys would recommend that's under $50 that's good for both games?

To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 13 2010 15:58 GMT
#2
Razer Salmosa. It's commonly accepted as being the best claw grip mouse.
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
August 13 2010 15:59 GMT
#3
There are lots and lots of threads about this. People can reccomend all kinds of mice but at the end of the day just get a quality mouse that feels comfortable in your hand.
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
August 13 2010 16:01 GMT
#4
On August 14 2010 00:59 Zortch wrote:
There are lots and lots of threads about this. People can reccomend all kinds of mice but at the end of the day just get a quality mouse that feels comfortable in your hand.

My current mouse feels comfortable, it's just it doesn't perform as well as I need it to because of its low DPI.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 16:10:11
August 13 2010 16:09 GMT
#5
All mice have their drawbacks. I've went through quite a few in the past year but settled on the Salmosa. It's not as small as you'd think given the marketing, though it is very light. It's easily claw and fingertip grippable. The only real problems with it are prediction, a slightly larger than average liftoff distance on black surfaces, and the non-presence of typical Razer ultra-easy-to-click buttons.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
August 13 2010 16:52 GMT
#6
I'm going to recommend the Logitech MX518 like I do in every single mouse thread.

Had it for years and it's never failed me.
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Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
August 13 2010 16:57 GMT
#7
Can I buy all these suggested mouses at Amazon?
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
August 13 2010 17:02 GMT
#8
Amazon should have a search that will tell you what you can buy from their site. o.o
Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
August 13 2010 17:43 GMT
#9
On August 14 2010 01:52 Empyrean wrote:
I'm going to recommend the Logitech MX518 like I do in every single mouse thread.

Had it for years and it's never failed me.


I, sadly, had one fail on me after a number of years. Such a lifespan and amazingness did not go unnoticed, though, and my first instinct was to get another one.
beep beep boop
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
August 13 2010 18:38 GMT
#10
If you're looking for another smaller sized mouse, I'd look into either the Logitech G1 (what I use, Stork uses it too ) or a G3. They both use the same, old-school mouse model. I know they don't make the G1 anymore (not sure about G3), as I had to order mine from Korea, but it was still only $30 with shipping!
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
August 13 2010 20:23 GMT
#11
I'm using a Salmosa right now and it's great. I used to try out all kinds of < $15 non-gaming mice and really, none of them can compare to actual gaming mice despite what people say. I think the Abyssus is supposed to be like the Salmosa but with better dpi, no mouse prediction, and slightly smaller size. It could be a potential LMO replacement, though I've never actually used one. You can also just go to bestbuy or w/e and try out some of the mice on display to see whats comfortable for you.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
August 13 2010 23:08 GMT
#12
Well I'd recommend not getting Razer mice because you pay for the name and not the product.

Microsoft, Logitech, Razer, IBM, HP, Dell... you name it, I've probably owned at least one in my life.

If I was giving an honest opinion Razer ranks the lowest out of all of them. Expensive, uncomfortable and the mouse buttons felt cheap and "sticky".

None of them compare to the feel and accuracy of the Genius Ergo 555. Yeah a "no name" non gaming mouse beats all the marketing hype and fancy looking plastic of the rest.

The only problem with this mouse is that it's not as easy to find as other brands. On the internet you should have no issues though. I bought my first one in Hong Kong after testing it at a Computer market and noticing how damn comfortable it was. Bought it for around $11 AUD and it lasted 3 years until it got damaged in my laptop bag while I was traveling and it was never the same again.

Recently I managed to get a new one from an Australian store but for almost 5 times the cost - it was worth it and still half the price of what I paid for the stupid Razer mouse I fell for.

There is also a new mouse I've noticed that uses a similar chipset/hardware setup as the Ergo 555. This one is from Coolermaster, has better DPI, dual lasers so it will pretty much never "jump". The only thing I dislike about it is the coloured LEDs because they serve no purpose and I hate pointless things. Some people obviously like them though or they wouldn't have them.

I *think* this is a link to the mouse I am talking about... my internet is a bit messed up at the moment and most pages are timing out...

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2951

If I had to pick another mouse I would choose the Logitech MX400 because it's just a solid mouse. The only downside of it is you can't adjust the DPI which is almost a must when changing resolutions to play BW.

In the end everyone has a different hand and different preference for mice so experiment. Use your friends ones and see how they feel but just don't get Razer... they are expensive, poorly made and just overall shitty products. I spent well over $200 on Razer "gaming gear" and it was all absolute trash that ended up where trash belongs.
Gcubed
Profile Joined April 2010
United States131 Posts
August 13 2010 23:44 GMT
#13
lol

User was warned for this post
Solis_Fonte
Profile Joined February 2010
63 Posts
August 15 2010 04:27 GMT
#14
Razer Salmosa (800/1800dpi)
Logitech G1 (800dpi)
SteelSeries Kinzu (400/800/1600/3200dpi)
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 15 2010 04:54 GMT
#15
I have been using the Razer Diamondback (3G) for over a year now, and really satisfied with it thus far. I am not sure if they still sell it though.

If not, try the Razer Salmosa. Couple of friends who use it like it a lot.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 15 2010 05:11 GMT
#16
http://deals.woot.com/sellout

One deal per day for people looking for a razer lachesis. Personally I Hate razer but I saw this deal today, and remembered this thread in the blogs so figured maybe I should post it.

I prefer the Microsoft Intellimouse explorer 3.0. But I come from an FPS background so I have ridiculously low sensitivity and prefer it that way.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Kutar_FOX
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)67 Posts
August 15 2010 07:54 GMT
#17
I am using Logitech G9 and it is good enough for gaming.
스타크래프트도 좀 적당히 하자.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 10:58:40
August 15 2010 10:57 GMT
#18
Raising Windows mouse speed is such a bad idea. Please see my post here about it. Get yourself a decent mouse — the mini optical is bad (I have two), and only just gets by in BW because the resolution is only 640x480. Xai and DA are the only mice with high DPI that have no mouse correction/angle-snapping, but if angle-snapping doesn't bother you, G1 is quite nice (and Stork uses it, seeing as you are keen on mice that progamers use :p)
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