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I'm assuming everyone has already watched SKT vs STX playoffs Day 2, but unless you havn't... spoiler alert
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The game I'm referring to is  BeSt vs  Modesty on Judgment Day. For whatever reason, there are people that insists that I should recommend this game in the Live Report thread because the players played brilliantly, and it was filled with many intense moments.
+ Show Spoiler [a poll someone made] +Just to be clear, it was more than just the poll that disagreed with me. Too lazy to gather up all the other posts. On August 01 2010 14:16 SwiftBunny wrote:I'm not a huge fan of how prototype described this game Poll: Recommend Game 3? Modesty vs Best?Yes. (44) 69% No. (16) 25% If you have spare time, watch. (4) 6% 64 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 3? Modesty vs Best? (Vote): Yes.
(Vote): No.
(Vote): If you have spare time, watch.
Let me show you why this game is so bad because I don't think we were watching the same game. In PICTURES :D:D:D
It may seem like i'm nitpicking at every move the player makes, but that's what I expect from progamers. They're progamers because they're professional.
Just because the game ended fast or it was cheesy or whatever doesn't make it recommended.
And that is why this game is not recommended.  /rant
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Thanks for the little report; I hardly watch progaming anymore. From the way things were going I thought + Show Spoiler + was going to end up taking the game or something
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Good analysis.
However, I'd say any game with modesty should not be recommended by default. He's a terrible player that wins coinflip ZvZ's slightly more often than his opponent. I doubt he'd ever win a bo3 management games against any starleague finalist.
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Australia7069 Posts
sometimes bad play makes the games exciting. Think to Jaedong vs kal on FS recently, kal had a huge lead and threw it away allowing JD to make an epic comeback. An exciting game to watch by anyones standards but "bad" play facilitated it.
I think its important you remember that BW in its current form is a spectator sport, without spectators, it wouldn't exist in this format. Games which go down to the wire are exciting, making them better for the spectators.
Thats why people like Hyuk. He manages to throw away games he really shouldn't lose so badly, but does it in a way which is just plain entertaining. I'd much rather watch hyuk hyuk himself than watch flash afk turtle his enemy to death for 40 minutes even tho flash's game had more "correct" play in it.
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Hahahah yeah! this game sucked to a degree, but i thought that made it funny and even more on the edge intense! i was basically laughing and going "WHAT ARE YOU DOING" for most of it.
So i had a good time watching it, but yeah, modesty did not deserve to win imo. hahahaha
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is awesome32269 Posts
It was an intense game, regardless of the skill.
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Yea, I'm aware badly played games can still be exciting to watch. But the posters that said I should recommend it because the game was played well just irritated me.
On August 05 2010 16:10 IntoTheWow wrote:
It was an intense game, regardless of the skill.
The game would have been more intense if the initial mutalisks didn't do so much damage.
Because then we would have seen a closer game where any player can come out on top.
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Thanks for the BR. Saves me a lot of time.
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I thought it was a cool build.but yeah. Best totally dropped the ball on that one.
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It doesn't have to feature high level of skill to be worth watching/recommending, it swung several times and had a very unusual build from modesty with some tense battles. I don't watch starcraft games to see flawless probe scouting and denial, I don't see how that aspect being bad hurts the overall game's entertainment value.
On top of this it was a severe underdog winning in a crucial game.
edit: afaik the mutas didn't do that much damage, just stopped mining for a while before being cleared out by sairs. Best was 2 base for a fair while before being overwhelmed
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Baa?21242 Posts
On August 05 2010 16:37 prototype. wrote:
Because then we would have seen a closer game where any player can come out on top.
Um, that's exactly what we saw.
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I loved the analyst, the game was intense but nothing amazing.. i wouldn't really recommend it.. best just fucked up hardcore
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On August 05 2010 16:05 Kiante wrote:
sometimes bad play makes the games exciting. Think to Jaedong vs kal on FS recently, kal had a huge lead and threw it away allowing JD to make an epic comeback. An exciting game to watch by anyones standards but "bad" play facilitated it.
kal threw it away? I didn't think Jaedong was far behind if at all at any point in the game.
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i was so surprised that best lost this game. just make more cannons.
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Baa?21242 Posts
On August 05 2010 18:25 Gustav_Wind wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 16:05 Kiante wrote:
sometimes bad play makes the games exciting. Think to Jaedong vs kal on FS recently, kal had a huge lead and threw it away allowing JD to make an epic comeback. An exciting game to watch by anyones standards but "bad" play facilitated it.
kal threw it away? I didn't think Jaedong was far behind if at all at any point in the game.
...what lol? That's just wrong.
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On August 05 2010 18:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 16:37 prototype. wrote:
Because then we would have seen a closer game where any player can come out on top. Um, that's exactly what we saw.
Watch light vs effort set 1 of MSL ro8 and tell me again that best vs modesty was a close game.
dumb sheep...
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Baa?21242 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:03 prototype. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 18:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 05 2010 16:37 prototype. wrote:
Because then we would have seen a closer game where any player can come out on top. Um, that's exactly what we saw. Watch light vs effort set 1 of MSL ro8 and tell me again that best vs modesty was a close game. dumb sheep...
Yes, because that's totally relevant here.
Let's see a week into the future for a closer game because that somehow invalidates the intensity of the game in question.
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On August 05 2010 20:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 20:03 prototype. wrote:On August 05 2010 18:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 05 2010 16:37 prototype. wrote:
Because then we would have seen a closer game where any player can come out on top. Um, that's exactly what we saw. Watch light vs effort set 1 of MSL ro8 and tell me again that best vs modesty was a close game. dumb sheep... Yes, because that's totally relevant here. Let's see a week into the future for a closer game because that somehow invalidates the intensity of the game in question.
Sure it's relevant. I'm providing an example of what a close game is because you clearly can't tell the difference.
At what point did it look like best had a chance in the game despite all of modesty's failures?
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I watched this. It was an absolutely brilliant build, but Modesty almost screwed it up because his first initial hydras were stopped. But he kept pressuring and won.
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i think it should be recommended, because Best lost to a damn sucky ass zerg, and people should be curious as to how that happened
edit: or... they could just come to this thread and look at your pictures lol ^_^
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