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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
August 05 2010 01:55 GMT
#41
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 05 2010 02:06 GMT
#42
I find it a lot harder too.
It's pretty obvious that a lot of the worst players switched to SC2. I'm C- previous seasons, and I could sometimes go 12-0 at the beginning because there were some terrible players, especially at the non korean hours. So when you arrive in D+ ranks, quite a lot of D+ players actually reached D+ rank by running into terrible D players, so they are D+, but still pretty bad. But all the worst D players are gone, so getting D+ is not as easy. So the D+ players you meet are so much better than the former D+, hence it's harder to get C-, so when you play vs C- players.... etc etc, all the ranks are shifted. It might make less difference for the very high ranks though, since B and over will have no trouble to go through the 'new D ranks'
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SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
August 05 2010 03:01 GMT
#43
Honestly, just keep playing iccup, and supplement it with USeast noob bashing sessions.

It's the only way I can keep laddering without too much frustration.
wsrgry
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 03:15:21
August 05 2010 03:07 GMT
#44
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
August 05 2010 03:23 GMT
#45
On August 05 2010 12:07 krndandaman wrote:
lol i find useast more frustrating. due to the retarded lag there everyone can just go joyo or storm rape you


I find the maphack, disc-hack, money hack, and the map rig much more annoying
im deaf
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 05 2010 03:28 GMT
#46
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 03:36:36
August 05 2010 03:36 GMT
#47
Once the rest of the parts come in for my SC2 comp I don't think I i'll ever play a ladder game on Iccup ever again it is fucking frustrating to no end.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
August 05 2010 03:49 GMT
#48
On August 05 2010 12:36 Megalisk wrote:
Once the rest of the parts come in for my SC2 comp I don't think I i'll ever play a ladder game on Iccup ever again it is fucking frustrating to no end.


Now that you joined KPF me and lokim can offer coaching services
FruitMarket
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 05 2010 03:54 GMT
#49
On August 05 2010 12:49 Chaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 12:36 Megalisk wrote:
Once the rest of the parts come in for my SC2 comp I don't think I i'll ever play a ladder game on Iccup ever again it is fucking frustrating to no end.


Now that you joined KPF me and lokim can offer coaching services


Who are you?
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
August 05 2010 04:57 GMT
#50
You kidding right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Yonghwa
FruitMarket
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 05 2010 05:00 GMT
#51
On August 05 2010 13:57 Chaos wrote:
You kidding right?

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Yonghwa


Oh shit lol sup man :3. I thought you were 'Yonghwa' on TL as well..
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 05:03:47
August 05 2010 05:02 GMT
#52
its because all the sc2 noobs left, and all thats left are battle hardened truly dedicated broodwar conservatives
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 05 2010 05:08 GMT
#53
On August 05 2010 14:02 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
its because all the sc2 noobs left, and all thats left are battle hardened truly dedicated broodwar conservatives


Most of which are Koreans, which were already 1 rank better than the rank they play on, because they have to play other koreans. Even at 3-4 AM KST, Iccup is still 90% KOR .
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
August 05 2010 16:04 GMT
#54
Go koreans, go!
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
August 05 2010 17:35 GMT
#55
On August 05 2010 05:30 neobowman wrote:
Same thing happened to me. I was trying to get to C a few days before the game came out and even then the skill level was higher than what I felt like it was before.


Was the opposite for me. Managed to get to C- while phase 2 was up with relative ease. Skill gap seemed about the same as it had always been, if not worse.
twitch.tv/cratonz
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 05 2010 18:43 GMT
#56
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zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
August 05 2010 21:14 GMT
#57
Poll: What is the most OP race in SC:BW?

Korean (8)
 
62%

Terran (3)
 
23%

Protoss (2)
 
15%

Zerg (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: What is the most OP race in SC:BW?

(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Korean



gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
August 05 2010 22:19 GMT
#58
On August 05 2010 08:12 zenMaster wrote:
All the skill-less noobs went to SC2.


Yeah, like Tester, IdrA and ITR. Let me tell you, they're terrible.
squaremanhole
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States82 Posts
August 05 2010 22:26 GMT
#59
Sigh... SC2 is where it's at right now.

BW is only fun with friends and watching and ICCup is too frustrating.
Lonelyness is just like a curable illness,I cure it with fapping. - PlosionCornu
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
August 06 2010 01:14 GMT
#60
On August 06 2010 07:19 gdroxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 08:12 zenMaster wrote:
All the skill-less noobs went to SC2.


Yeah, like Tester, IdrA and ITR. Let me tell you, they're terrible.

Nobody said ONLY skilless noobs went there.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
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