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I know every Aussie and his pet kangaroo that he rides to work has had a go at this topic - but seriously this is a god damn joke.
A lot of outsiders (eg people not from SEA) seem to think that we have a fantastic deal here with Blizzard - We get access to a "local" server, and then after the recent announcement about getting access to USA servers soon - we get that 'added bonus' of playing with the lively folks in America.
First thing; The server is not 'local' - it's in Singapore. I know the main issue with that is partly our own fault - the main company controlling our communications infrastructure (apparently) had previously rejected a request from Blizzard to put a server here. (If someone knows more about this please feel free to enlighten me, I'm just going off things I've heard). However, according to a couple of internet providers here (who obviously would also have the power to host a Blizzard server) no one has been approached to set anything up. I believe I saw something from an iiNet big guy that they had never been asked about it, but they have the resources, and they'd love to help out. Obviously the last part is a bit of PR crap to look good, but still, the feeling was there. (Anyone got a link to this article? I couldn't find it  )
So now we must deal with a server in Singapore, which while a lot closer than the US West servers - is still giving most of us terrible terrible ping as per usual. In fact I've heard from some folks that if you're on some specific internet providers, you get a worse ping to Singapore than to US West. Riddle me that Blizzard. Once again, if someone can explain that please feel free to post.
The other main issue I just experienced a short while ago - is that no one is on here. I know that it's the middle of a Friday, most folks are at work, etc - but seriously, unable to get a 3v3 within a few minutes? Seriously?
![[image loading]](http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/teknetium111/Screenshot2010-07-3011_53_51.jpg) My 3v3 status for a long time I would presume
I'd hate to see how folks with 4v4 teams are going. As I said, I know it's currently the middle of the day here, but I've heard that a lot of other people had trouble at peak times too.
I know it's still only a few days after release but really - last night I saw on that SC2 'home screen' - 19885 games Worldwide - 1002 games in your region. Gee thanks Blizzard! Roughly 1000 games out of about 20k?
![[image loading]](http://www.heyblunderwoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Empty-House.jpg) The SEA server - looks all pretty, but there's nothing here.
Hopefully once we get our access to the US server, we'll be able to play some more consistant games, with some quality opponents too. I am by no means a great player, I'm definitely the first to admit that - however one of Australia's best players GLaDe is currently 28-0 on the ladder. Unless he comes up against some of the other higher level folks, he's going to storm through every player he gets 'matched' against purely because the player base here is so low.
Thanks for another excellent decision Blizzard, lets hope that giving us access to the US servers will remedy this ridiculous issue.
![[image loading]](http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/teknetium111/hiyacards.png) The same look Blizzard had when they decided to seggregate the SEA players. (Thanks Mystlord! <3)
Cheers.
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Yeah, SEA is pretty much unplayable at peak times. During the morning/day it's ok.
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On July 30 2010 11:22 snotboogie wrote:
Yeah, SEA is pretty much unplayable at peak times. During the morning/day it's ok.
Do you mean because of lag? I haven't really had any trouble with "spiking" ping at all - but to me the fact that there is no real difference to the US servers is just a joke.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
I remember back in Early WOW, that Telstra was asking Blizzard to let them host servers. I would imagine that its more likely that Blizzard already had plans for a server in Singapore and decided that Aus/NZ could help bolster the population.
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is awesome32277 Posts
I don't think Blizzard is to blame 100% for it. Australia/NZ usually has trouble in lots of games right?
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Ouch, that really sucks for global competition tbh. If the thing about ping is true, not sure why they won't let SEA play on US or Asia.
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On July 30 2010 11:35 pachi wrote:
I remember back in Early WOW, that Telstra was asking Blizzard to let them host servers. I would imagine that its more likely that Blizzard already had plans for a server in Singapore and decided that Aus/NZ could help bolster the population.
Wasn't it the other way around? Blizzard asked Telstra and they (being the bitches they are) said no?
Yeah we have always had trouble with this sort of thing, it sucks that people have just gotten used to it - but that said there isn't really too much we can do as a community on this particular topic. The corporate world seems to not care that we'd want our own servers here.
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i dont know where all the singaporeans are
ive been playing ladder and 9/10 people are AU players i know lol
Also play the same 5 people everyday.
Sux that u have lag i thoguht the whole point of SEA was to reduce lag. i have 0 lag lol
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On July 30 2010 11:24 Duckvillelol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 11:22 snotboogie wrote:
Yeah, SEA is pretty much unplayable at peak times. During the morning/day it's ok. Do you mean because of lag? I haven't really had any trouble with "spiking" ping at all - but to me the fact that there is no real difference to the US servers is just a joke.
It's been spiking about every 3 seconds for me and a LOT of other aussies/kiwis at night .
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On July 30 2010 12:10 aLt)nirvana wrote:
i dont know where all the singaporeans are
ive been playing ladder and 9/10 people are AU players i know lol
Also play the same 5 people everyday.
Sux that u have lag i thoguht the whole point of SEA was to reduce lag. i have 0 lag lol
Because the server is in your country lol.
But yeah, I think I saw like 2 Singaporeans in all of my friend's leagues and 90% are Aussies, with two or three kiwis here or there. Haven't spotted any fili names I recognise.
The whole server is just one big Trans-Tasman tournament...
It just sucks that the most active of the nations out there, and most well-connected are the ones with very small populations (Aus - 21mil, SG - 5mil, NZ - 4mil). Despite countries like Indonesia having huge populations the percentage that have access to high end PCs, decent internet or can afford the game would be much lower than other countries.
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Do you really want cross-server!?
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On July 30 2010 12:37 Saechiis wrote:
Do you really want cross-server!?
Don't joke about it man it's a sensitive issue for us T_T
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i've played a couple of games so far and its like playing on extra high latency.
i dont know what i'm going to do until the US server becomes available
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I played 5 placement matches last night before heading to bed.
Met 5 Aussies.
Beat 4, one cheesed the shit out of me ...
Not so much SEA imo ...
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On July 30 2010 13:08 deL wrote:Don't joke about it man it's a sensitive issue for us T_T
I have nightmares about it. I wakeup in a cold sweat screaming "WTF DOES DU MA MEAN? AND WHY AM I LAGGING?"
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On July 30 2010 13:08 deL wrote:Don't joke about it man it's a sensitive issue for us T_T
Lol, I'm trying to run a global tournament ... it's kinda sensitive for me too 
PS. Hiya plays Yu-gi-oh! I knew it.
+ Show Spoiler +Where's his millenium item?
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SEA custom games are also dead.
There is like no one playing it, the list is pretty much empty.
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I have noticed no difference between SEA and US. I really don't see the point of the SEA server.
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The one big issue I had regarding lag was that (for me at least) doing some sexy marauder kiting or any other kiting is really really hard to do - yet for our USA opponents it's quite easy.
I thought if we'd get segregated and if we had our own server I'd be able to properly do these fun sorts of micro things. But no, it's still that brief bit of lag where doing the required "moves" to pull of kiting just does not work. It absolutely infuriates me that an opponent I'm playing against can do it, but I can't just because of the fact that certain people are too narrow-minded to at least entertain the option of bringing a server here.
Then again that brings it back to the issue I spoke of earlier that there is seemingly no one here anyway - just an hour ago some other Aussies and I played a 4v4 with 4 pc's purely because we had waited 30 minutes and no one seemed to be coming. (It was 2+2 v 2+2 fyi... not us vs 4 AI lol).
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I just lol'd at the picture of Hiya. What's also funny is that he has his mouth closed LOL
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On July 30 2010 13:21 Duckvillelol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 13:08 deL wrote:On July 30 2010 12:37 Saechiis wrote:
Do you really want cross-server!? Don't joke about it man it's a sensitive issue for us T_T I have nightmares about it. I wakeup in a cold sweat screaming " WTF DOES DU MA MEAN? AND WHY AM I LAGGING?"
lol .....
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On July 30 2010 11:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't think Blizzard is to blame 100% for it. Australia/NZ usually has trouble in lots of games right?
I have no problems. The server is really bad though. I played Indy like 7 times in a row yesterday because there are simply no good players.
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On July 30 2010 15:17 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 11:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't think Blizzard is to blame 100% for it. Australia/NZ usually has trouble in lots of games right? I have no problems. The server is really bad though. I played Indy like 7 times in a row yesterday because there are simply no good players.
That means its easier for you to rise to the top :3.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:19 Megalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 15:17 Plexa wrote:On July 30 2010 11:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't think Blizzard is to blame 100% for it. Australia/NZ usually has trouble in lots of games right? I have no problems. The server is really bad though. I played Indy like 7 times in a row yesterday because there are simply no good players. That means its easier for you to rise to the top :3.
That's like saying im the healthiest person in the intensive care ward.
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On July 30 2010 15:38 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 15:19 Megalisk wrote:On July 30 2010 15:17 Plexa wrote:On July 30 2010 11:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't think Blizzard is to blame 100% for it. Australia/NZ usually has trouble in lots of games right? I have no problems. The server is really bad though. I played Indy like 7 times in a row yesterday because there are simply no good players. That means its easier for you to rise to the top :3. That's like saying im the healthiest person in the intensive care ward.
First place in the special olympics.
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On July 30 2010 15:17 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 11:39 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't think Blizzard is to blame 100% for it. Australia/NZ usually has trouble in lots of games right? I have no problems. The server is really bad though. I played Indy like 7 times in a row yesterday because there are simply no good players.
I am only just completing my placement matches as we speak, and I hope I don't get the guy who I planetary fortress rushed because I know he's going to whine about it.
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Blizzard needs to combine the SEA and US servers.
There are simply not enough players.
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On July 30 2010 13:13 SoMuchBetter wrote:
i've played a couple of games so far and its like playing on extra high latency.
i dont know what i'm going to do until the US server becomes available
iccup
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who would think it was a fantastic deal exactly
if americans had access to SEA they wouldn't want to play on it because there are fewer games , less players and a much smaller UMS pool
SEA is like the asia server on bnet 1.0 , how many westerners played on there?
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I thank Blizzard for trying to get a SEA server, but it just doesn't work.
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On July 30 2010 12:28 deL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 12:10 aLt)nirvana wrote:
i dont know where all the singaporeans are
ive been playing ladder and 9/10 people are AU players i know lol
Also play the same 5 people everyday.
Sux that u have lag i thoguht the whole point of SEA was to reduce lag. i have 0 lag lol Because the server is in your country lol. But yeah, I think I saw like 2 Singaporeans in all of my friend's leagues and 90% are Aussies, with two or three kiwis here or there. Haven't spotted any fili names I recognise. The whole server is just one big Trans-Tasman tournament... It just sucks that the most active of the nations out there, and most well-connected are the ones with very small populations (Aus - 21mil, SG - 5mil, NZ - 4mil). Despite countries like Indonesia having huge populations the percentage that have access to high end PCs, decent internet or can afford the game would be much lower than other countries.
What the hell, Aus only has 21 million inhabitants? I think because of the sheer size of the country I just always assumed it would be a hell of a lot more.
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That last picture. He plays yugioh?
While playing bw?
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On July 30 2010 17:53 disco wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 12:28 deL wrote:On July 30 2010 12:10 aLt)nirvana wrote:
i dont know where all the singaporeans are
ive been playing ladder and 9/10 people are AU players i know lol
Also play the same 5 people everyday.
Sux that u have lag i thoguht the whole point of SEA was to reduce lag. i have 0 lag lol Because the server is in your country lol. But yeah, I think I saw like 2 Singaporeans in all of my friend's leagues and 90% are Aussies, with two or three kiwis here or there. Haven't spotted any fili names I recognise. The whole server is just one big Trans-Tasman tournament... It just sucks that the most active of the nations out there, and most well-connected are the ones with very small populations (Aus - 21mil, SG - 5mil, NZ - 4mil). Despite countries like Indonesia having huge populations the percentage that have access to high end PCs, decent internet or can afford the game would be much lower than other countries. What the hell, Aus only has 21 million inhabitants? I think because of the sheer size of the country I just always assumed it would be a hell of a lot more.
There's a whole lot of desert here.
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On July 30 2010 17:53 disco wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2010 12:28 deL wrote:On July 30 2010 12:10 aLt)nirvana wrote:
i dont know where all the singaporeans are
ive been playing ladder and 9/10 people are AU players i know lol
Also play the same 5 people everyday.
Sux that u have lag i thoguht the whole point of SEA was to reduce lag. i have 0 lag lol Because the server is in your country lol. But yeah, I think I saw like 2 Singaporeans in all of my friend's leagues and 90% are Aussies, with two or three kiwis here or there. Haven't spotted any fili names I recognise. The whole server is just one big Trans-Tasman tournament... It just sucks that the most active of the nations out there, and most well-connected are the ones with very small populations (Aus - 21mil, SG - 5mil, NZ - 4mil). Despite countries like Indonesia having huge populations the percentage that have access to high end PCs, decent internet or can afford the game would be much lower than other countries. What the hell, Aus only has 21 million inhabitants? I think because of the sheer size of the country I just always assumed it would be a hell of a lot more.
I learnt a while ago never to take the size of a country into context while assuming it's population.
Quick stats:
Australia:
Size:
7,617,930 km2 (6th largest)
2,941,299 sq mi
Population:
2010 estimate 22,404,847[3] (53rd)
You then compare that with:
England:
Size:
Total 130,395 km2
50,346 sq mi
Population:
2008 estimate 51,446,000[5]
Yep :S
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Seriously the game just doesn't flow with all the lag. I'm bored to tears.
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Well, a BIG reason for SEA not having players worth a shit is because damn near everyone else is goingg "Arr ye matey let's do single player then forget about it" in their home countries. Out of around a HUNDRED friends of mine here in PH, only FIVE have bought SC2, AND NONE of them are going to ladder at all. Around ten to twenty are going the arr ye matey route, the rest are too much of WoWhags to care.
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God it used to be like this when I was growing up in England. Now I recall the utter frustration of not being able to get online at all at peak times. At least the US does something right.
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Okay, so I did a tracert and sent it to where Blizz wanted us to send it so that they could fix the problem. Here is their reply:
Thank you for contacting IAHGames support for StarCraft II. Currently Australia is the only country experiencing such lag spikes in the whole of SEA. Please contact your ISP and let them know about such issue, and to find a solution as soon as possible. Do feel free to contact us if you have any further enquiries. Regards, Jb T. Customer Service IAHgames Support For Starcraft II http://sea.blizzard.com/support
Basically, "don't look at us, go fix it your damn self." Do they even care? I suspect Blizz wants to actually fix this, but IAHGames just doesn't give a fuck. Who the hell are IAHGames anyway?
GG.
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