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Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 00:39 GMT
#1
Ok, this is really getting annoying now. I'm a Windows 7 User and as everyone knows, compatibility problems exist for Brood War in Windows 7, the most notorious being freezing and the colors getting all screwed up.

For myself, this is particularly annoying because I stream Brood War and what can be more frustrating than my computer freezing in the middle of an Iccup ladder match while I'm streaming? I don't mind the colors getting all fucked up, but the freezing definitely is getting on my nerves. I have tried nearly everything to stop the freezing, including the bat file that kills explorer.exe, checking all the boxes except the last 3 for Brood War Compatibility options, and using Windows 7 Basic mode. For a while, this stopped the freezing, but just yesterday, while I was streaming, I experienced a freeze once again.

I'm at a loss here about what to do. I want to continue streaming Brood War for the community but if these freezing issues keep continuing, streaming is going to be a problem. Is it absolutely impossible to play Brood War in Windows 7 without any problems? If it is, then I'm considering downgrading to Windows XP or Windows Vista. Don't get me wrong, guys, Windows 7 is amazing for everything besides Brood War. But I do want to keep streaming... What do I do guys?

To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
July 11 2010 00:40 GMT
#2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=windows 7 brood war&t=c&f=-1&u=&gb=date
Don't make all-caps blogs.
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wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 00:41:45
July 11 2010 00:41 GMT
#3
spell the title correctly. pretty please.

man its like i'm stalking you -- every other thread i go to, you're the latest poster
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
July 11 2010 00:43 GMT
#4
fucking winnows
Like a G6
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 00:44 GMT
#5
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382
I checked this thread out mainly because it seems to be the thread with the most replies and I checked out most of those threads that you referenced, Chill. I've tried searching my problem on google, too and I've gone through a Windows 7 forum thread with nearly 30 pages of replies. Nothing worked.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 00:54:56
July 11 2010 00:47 GMT
#6
the colours is an easy fix if you can find it. was searching forever. go to task manager, click the processes tab, right click explorer.exe, select end process, go to file > new task (run), and run the sc exe file from your program folder. colours are fixed and it also fixed a battlenet authentication error for me. and when you want to get your desktop back, you just go file > new task and type explorer.exe.

now i think you could apply this to your streaming as well, but i'm not positive. but it's worth a shot, eh?

edit: lol, i'm not very good at reading, am i? totally missed that you tried killing explorer (the colour problem bugs the shit out of me, btw). if you don't mind spending a bit of money, you can upgrade your windows 7 to professional, which comes with an xp emulator, or something of the sort.
How's the weather down there?
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 00:48 GMT
#7
Believe me, I've already tried that. And I don't really mind the colors getting fucked up. It's the freezing that's a real problem for me.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
vanskater
Profile Joined March 2010
United States146 Posts
July 11 2010 00:52 GMT
#8
try run as administrator.


i dono what your issue is but i run windows 7 and my BW is fine
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 11 2010 00:56 GMT
#9
Windows 7 isn't your problem. I never encountered freezing before, but to fix your colors, all you have to do is to open your screen resolution. I don't know why, but playing scbw with the screen resolution window open fixes the colors.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 00:58:52
July 11 2010 00:58 GMT
#10
I've tried that as well. Here are all the solutions I've tried.

-Terminate explorer.exe (Fixes colors, but not freezes).
-Use a bat file that automatically terminates explorer.exe and restores it once you are finished playing Brood War.
-Run Windows 7 Basic mode.
-Check most of the compatibility boxes under Starcraft.exe Properties[image loading]

None of these worked. I was also going to try setting my affinity core to 0 but from that thread I just linked to, players who tried this mentioned that it only worked for a while until it crashed again.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 11 2010 00:59 GMT
#11
the only fix is to play in window mode. It's not that bad if you run it in 2x mode and have a big monitor
blabberrrrr
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 01:01:40
July 11 2010 01:01 GMT
#12
I've contemplated Window mode, but isn't it hard to move your mouse around in Brood War if you play it in that mode? There just has to be a fix for this nonsense so that people can play full screen...
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
July 11 2010 01:12 GMT
#13
me2
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 01:16 GMT
#14
On July 11 2010 10:12 The6357 wrote:
me2

Thanks.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
July 11 2010 01:17 GMT
#15
On July 11 2010 10:01 Prozen wrote:
I've contemplated Window mode, but isn't it hard to move your mouse around in Brood War if you play it in that mode? There just has to be a fix for this nonsense so that people can play full screen...

For me Windowed Mode is the only fix unfortunately. The mouse is a little laggy for me as well, but I dont see any other fix that works permanently.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 01:19 GMT
#16
On July 11 2010 10:17 Tempest[OEC] wrote:
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On July 11 2010 10:01 Prozen wrote:
I've contemplated Window mode, but isn't it hard to move your mouse around in Brood War if you play it in that mode? There just has to be a fix for this nonsense so that people can play full screen...

For me Windowed Mode is the only fix unfortunately. The mouse is a little laggy for me as well, but I dont see any other fix that works permanently.

That's honestly a shame. It's really unfortunate that Microsoft didn't make Windows 7 backwards compatible with a twelve year-old game...
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 11 2010 01:20 GMT
#17
Starcraft has always had issues like this for me, even in vista. So have most blizzard games before diablo 2. It honestly is Blizzard's fault for not patching their games to make them compatiable with the newer versions of windows. In diablo 2 they introduced a video test thing, where your computers graphic and sound cards are tested and then adjusted accordingly for the game.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 01:25 GMT
#18
I think it's more of Microsoft's fault. Brood war is a really old game, it's not Blizzard's priority to patch the game so that it runs without any problems in newer OSes. They've done a fine job as it is to make the game balanced in the later years of Brood War's release.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Mingeek
Profile Joined March 2010
United States35 Posts
July 11 2010 01:43 GMT
#19
Yes, and Microsoft is going to keep in mind that they should make their game compatible with, as you say, a really old game? And yes, it is Blizzard's job to patch to game so it will run with newer OSes. They still sell Starcraft, therefor, they should still be updating and patching it with new OSes.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
July 11 2010 01:47 GMT
#20
Just downgrade? No one is making you use windows 7
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 01:51 GMT
#21
On July 11 2010 10:47 naonao wrote:
Just downgrade? No one is making you use windows 7

I want to absolutely make sure that there isn't any other solution besides downgrading before I actually do.
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-11 01:56:13
July 11 2010 01:55 GMT
#22
Blizzard doesn't update its (very) old games for newer OS's, which makes logical sense. The one to blame for SC:BW's incompatibility with Windows 7 is not Windows 7 itself, but Blizzard. Should Microsoft be responsible for perfecting its OS's compatibility with a very old game that another company made?

EDIT: As the guy below me said - simplest solution, partition hard drive and get XP
:)
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 11 2010 01:55 GMT
#23
Can you not dual boot with xp? Its not that hard
© Current year.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
July 11 2010 02:15 GMT
#24
You can fix the color problem by using this adding a registry key that tells windows 7 to use a special compatibility mode for Starcraft 1.16 because out of the box it only knows about 1.14 and below.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/dxjq3iamm2c/sc116reg.rar

Inside the rar it has 2 .reg files, one for 32-bit and one for 64-bit. Just double click the appropriate one to add it to your registry. You can open them with textpad or notepad or whatever to see the contents of each one to see what they do.

This may fix your freezing issue or it may not. I still have freezing problems with the registry keys but it does fix the colour issues completely. I have no issues with windowed mode.

All credit goes to warlord_7 for working this out.
Prozen
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States338 Posts
July 11 2010 03:45 GMT
#25
Alright, I guess my only choice is to downgrade to Vista/XP. Vista shouldn't have freezing problems, right?
To transcend beyond greatness, you must become greatness itself.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 11 2010 04:05 GMT
#26
Maybe, I've never heard of these freezing problems before. It could also have to do with your drivers so I can't be sure that a downgrade will work.

Alternatively can you partition a vista using something like vmware?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
July 11 2010 05:08 GMT
#27
Just close explorer when you run sc it's not hard.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
July 11 2010 09:53 GMT
#28
upgrade to windows xp
if it ain't broke...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
July 11 2010 11:30 GMT
#29
u must hate vista more!
Ahseyo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden80 Posts
July 11 2010 11:53 GMT
#30
Windows 7 is written in an old code like the XP. So Windows 7 is pretty worthless to use now untill they upgrade the code and fix all the bugs.
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