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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32102 Posts
July 06 2010 15:17 GMT
#61
On July 06 2010 23:53 TunaFishyMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 23:44 Hawk wrote:
Guess it's a matter of priorities. $100k/yr don't mean shit if you're logging 90+hours at the office. When the hell are you gonna spend it??

haha...
There are always way to spend money. But you could always retire faster or something. I don't know. It is a matter of priorities. For me, I rather have money than not.


If you're working 12+hr days + Sat, that's not much free time. And you won't neccessarily retire early. If you're used to a 200$k lifestyle, it's dropping significantly when you retire, no matter how much you save.
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TunaFishyMe
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada150 Posts
July 06 2010 15:23 GMT
#62
That's why if you make 200k, you live 100k lifestyle. And you make sure your money continuously makes money for you through properties etc etc.
You don't necessary retire earlier but you are in the position to call it quits whenever you want and dont have to worry about money. Whereas most of world have ppl who are 50, approaching retirement but have barely saved up anything. But thats a different topic itself.
I believe in a competitive environment because chances are, in the future, youll be in a better position than if you just do whatever to get by.
mrfixij
Profile Joined July 2010
United States18 Posts
July 22 2010 23:30 GMT
#63
People are subject to fatigue. I've seen it working overnights, and have felt it just the same. I've done more in a 8 hour shift at a warehouse when we're having a steady day than I have on a 12 hour shift with a flow team. Factoring in the diminishing returns and brainburn of a long shift, those 12 hour shifts probably have about as much work done as 8-10 fresh hours.
Random: because lets face it: I suck as all three races
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 00:47:42
July 23 2010 00:47 GMT
#64
I think if it's OK in some cases. That is: 1) The work justifies the hours 2) you dont (honestly)mind putting that time in. I suspect a majority of people dont satisfy those conditions though. It just becomes this pattern that everyone goes into because thats just how its done.

I've been thinking a lot about this topic lately too. You should check out Tim Ferris' book 4-Hour Work Week. His blog has some decent articles too on that topic as well as time management/productivity stuff etc.

Some of his stuff is a bit extreme, but a lot of interesting stuff to think about.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
drewcifer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States192 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 01:28:36
July 23 2010 01:18 GMT
#65
On July 05 2010 12:23 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
So it seems that technology does not really improve the quality of life of people in any way other than making them live longer. Whether this improves overall happiness is questionable.



How do you not realize this is ludicrous while you were typing it on a machine that is currently allowing us to communicate vast distances with minimal effort nearly instantaneously tbh

btw about the topic...People overwork and always will, but I don't really think that's a problem. Only when it becomes expected of you to overwork to be even marginally successful does it become ridiculous. Which is happening in many fields unfortunately, but as others have said in this thread this is mostly because of how many people exist on this planet atm. The more people there are...the more competitive it will be ofc so it's not so unexpected to see workload increase simply because our population has grown this much. It may suck, but then think of how many of your luxuries wouldn't be here without the competition that's being debated.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
July 23 2010 01:22 GMT
#66
On July 23 2010 10:18 drewcifer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 12:23 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
So it seems that technology does not really improve the quality of life of people in any way other than making them live longer. Whether this improves overall happiness is questionable.



How do you not realize this is ludicrous while you were typing it on a machine that is currently allowing us to communicate vast distances with minimal effort nearly instantaneously tbh


But then theres the telegraph.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 23 2010 02:54 GMT
#67
On July 23 2010 10:18 drewcifer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 12:23 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
So it seems that technology does not really improve the quality of life of people in any way other than making them live longer. Whether this improves overall happiness is questionable.



How do you not realize this is ludicrous while you were typing it on a machine that is currently allowing us to communicate vast distances with minimal effort nearly instantaneously tbh

btw about the topic...People overwork and always will, but I don't really think that's a problem. Only when it becomes expected of you to overwork to be even marginally successful does it become ridiculous. Which is happening in many fields unfortunately, but as others have said in this thread this is mostly because of how many people exist on this planet atm. The more people there are...the more competitive it will be ofc so it's not so unexpected to see workload increase simply because our population has grown this much. It may suck, but then think of how many of your luxuries wouldn't be here without the competition that's being debated.

I'm sure people got along just fine even before the computer was invented. It may even be reasonable to argue that they were just as happy back then without it.

You say yourself some people overwork in certain majors nowadays. That's what sucks, that they have to work instead of relaxing.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
July 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#68
working less is great as long as you get the same or more accomplished.

and its totally possible, it just takes discipline and research
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
drewcifer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States192 Posts
July 23 2010 03:57 GMT
#69
On July 23 2010 11:54 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 10:18 drewcifer wrote:
On July 05 2010 12:23 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
So it seems that technology does not really improve the quality of life of people in any way other than making them live longer. Whether this improves overall happiness is questionable.



How do you not realize this is ludicrous while you were typing it on a machine that is currently allowing us to communicate vast distances with minimal effort nearly instantaneously tbh

btw about the topic...People overwork and always will, but I don't really think that's a problem. Only when it becomes expected of you to overwork to be even marginally successful does it become ridiculous. Which is happening in many fields unfortunately, but as others have said in this thread this is mostly because of how many people exist on this planet atm. The more people there are...the more competitive it will be ofc so it's not so unexpected to see workload increase simply because our population has grown this much. It may suck, but then think of how many of your luxuries wouldn't be here without the competition that's being debated.

I'm sure people got along just fine even before the computer was invented. It may even be reasonable to argue that they were just as happy back then without it.

You say yourself some people overwork in certain majors nowadays. That's what sucks, that they have to work instead of relaxing.


Umm no dude you're wrong tbh. I'm not a historian etc, but I've heard of some crazy shit that has happened in passed generations. Pretty pos life was way worse than it is now even if you are choosing to overwork yourself in today's society. If you need examples just pm me or just watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail it depicts what life was like in the passed very well.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
drewcifer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States192 Posts
July 23 2010 03:59 GMT
#70
like dude i can take a fucking vaccine today and cure something that coulda killed an entire fucking civilization lol pretty sure technology has made life way better without a doubt
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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