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SC ICCUP Built-up in 6 months: Recap Day #1

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ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
June 27 2010 21:41 GMT
#1
Good evening everybody.

The first day is done and I did a bit of practice. But first things first.

#1 A view replies to ideas/comments on my setup entry.

On June 27 2010 00:34 Misrah wrote:
i would stop mass gaming, and attempt to learn a few thing first. sounds like you don't know anything about competitive bw- and frankly going on icup will discourage you quite quickly. What i would suggest would be looking at liquidpedia. Learn and memorize the 'standard' build order for each of your 3 match ups. play against a computer opponent and make sure that you drill each build into your head. You need to memorize this build, and make sure that you can follow it to the letter.
Well I stated that I played Starcraft years ago and that was it. Actually I had some games on ICCup but that's like 10. I also followed both seasons of TSL, a lot of ESL Tv, tons of Day9 Dailies and some more esport, so in theory I got some basic knowledge down. What I lack is practice and of course some build orders to go by. Ah and I played SC2 a bit.

On June 27 2010 04:47 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
i suggest you watch progamer vods (or even better, replays) when you need a break, and before playing, in addition to those 4 other things on your list. This will help you learn faster and give you more motivation as well. GL
Yup, that's what I like to do. More on that in a second.

On June 27 2010 02:34 Count9 wrote:
Change don't play when you're feeling tired to, get up out of your chair and run around a bit to get blood flowing every 3+ games and keep playing.
Actually a good idea. Luckily I wasn't tired today. :D But I keep that in mind. Always good to keep going.

On June 27 2010 00:48 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
This is how I started (mind you I had a working knowledge of BW, just not of the competitive type):

1: Watched ALOT of pro games
2: Read Liquipedia
3: Picked ONE build to learn first (10/15 Gate)
4: Picked ONE map to learn that build on (Neo Medusa)
5: Played about 20-25 games vs the comp until I was sure I had it memorized.
6: Started on iCCup
7: ???
8: Profit
That pretty much outlines the position I am in at the moment. More just now!

#2 Today's work
-I decided to go for Protoss as I used to play them a lot in my teens and in my one attempt to play on ICCup a year ago.
-I chose Fighting Spirit as my first map to go. I can't explain why I go for it, but I like that map kinda. :D
- First matchup I will practice will be PvZ.

So it is: PvZ @Fighting Spirit

- I decided to learn a FE build with transition into Dragoon/Corsair
- I spent 75 Minutes actually repeatedly executing the BO over and over again, just to get a feel. I also changed around parts of my build to see how that worked out.
- Later I watched D9D #24 (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3533930/)which featured Anytime against Hyuk on Fighting Spirit. It didn't help me with my FE built, but showed me some nice 2 Gate into Reaver game to pressure Zerg.
- Also I picked up Day 9's advice and added a note to my screen, which says:

#1 Decide what your mid game should look like
#2 Do 10 games with that plan in mind
#3 Don't deviate
#4 After 10 games make adjustments
#5 repeat steps 2 to 4

This is a good place for me to experiment with this FE -> Goon/Sair build and see how I can execute it quite fast.

- I also watched the SPL game between Violet and Action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-AQZ7jXTUA&feature=player_embedded#!) which ended with Violet's proxy gates being scouted on mid pretty quickly.
- Last but not least I watched Draco vs Sen in the Ro16 of the last TSL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEqWG_8tU0s&feature=player_embedded#!), duking it out on Fighting Spirit.

All in all I have to say that I can execute stuff rather fast but end up without an overall plan and get lost in details too much too quickly. But hey, that was day #1. :D

Cheers,
ionize





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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 27 2010 22:09 GMT
#2
If you really do want to FE -> Goon/Sair vs Zerg then read the following guide.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108201

Also has example VODs and replays in thread.

Have funnn.
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ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
June 27 2010 22:16 GMT
#3
I'm looking forward to this it will be fun to follow .

Dont give up though. That's lame. Everyone gives up.
Each day gets better : )
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
June 27 2010 22:43 GMT
#4
good luck man
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
June 27 2010 23:28 GMT
#5
i'll be following this! keep it up!
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
June 28 2010 00:36 GMT
#6
On June 28 2010 08:28 Eben wrote:
i'll be following this! keep it up!


1+
also do you mean a 4gate goon opening into double stargate corsair?
aka DragOn[NaS]
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 28 2010 00:59 GMT
#7
I've seen so many of these day #1 blogs here and especially on iccup. GL sticking to it. You won't get better overnight and get used to losing.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
June 28 2010 02:54 GMT
#8
keep it up it will help you alot! gl hf
in The Kong line forever
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
June 29 2010 16:44 GMT
#9
sup, ionize. hope you like hoi polloi. idk who is still active in the clan, but we can build it back up, i'm sure. maybe later tonight i can actually play a game against you
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
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