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A Perfect Circle E-Motive and War

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-Desu-
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Turkey173 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 17:29:00
June 25 2010 17:06 GMT
#1
Hello guys,
Today I am here posting this blog to share my feelings about this beloved group and the topic of "war".

I am not creating this blog to have /claps from you or make you like me, I am low on post count certainly many of you don't know me.(If you want to see me you can check my post on the "a picture with your girl/boyfriend" thread.Altough I have a low post count, I am following the site since 2007 (actually this site is my homepage :p) but I never participated in discussions.

I am 25 years old and this is my first blog in my entire internet history so, if you find errors or don't like my structure of blog I apologize beforehand.

Since I feel very close to this community I want to share my feelings about War and A Perfect Circle's e-Motive album.I am a kind of person that feels ache in the heart when I hear about war, manslaughter, massacre and human beings killing human beings.(It's not that I can't stand the gore graphics, I watched may be the hardest things regarding the topic of war. It's not my stomach that hurts it's my heart that hurts.)

Whenever I hear news about war, killings etc, I am feeling very sad inside my heart thinking about the way humanity taking. Asking why people doing this to each other considering everybody has a lifespan of 60 years average.

But I am not going to bore you with my thoughts and feelings about this issue more. Because that would be the topic of "War" only.

My aim here is, if there is someone else whose heart ache reading news about war or watching slaughter on internet and gets depressed about our future, I want to know if they met "A Perfect Circle" and the album called "e-Motive". I am a person who is into music very much, playing (bass, piano) , listening etc... And this album really -literally- share my feelings about the topic war. I met this group because of I am a huge "Tool" fan (which can take tons of blogs to discuss).

Anyway, I am not an activist runs protests and meetings in streets, I don't get angry but very sad about war. Getting depressed in my house reading news about war.

Here is the song list of e-motive album from A perfect circle. If someone out there in this site shares the same feelings as me I strongly suggest them to listen their songs and watch their music videos.

e-motive:

1."Annihilation" (Crucifix) 2:13
2."Imagine" (John Lennon) 4:48
3."Peace, Love and Understanding" (Nick Lowe) 5:03
4."What's Going On" (Marvin Gaye) 4:53
5."Passive" (Howerdel / Lohner / Keenan / Reznor) 4:09
6."Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie" (Black Flag) 2:18
7."People Are People" (Depeche Mode) 3:43
8."Freedom of Choice" (Devo) 2:59
9."Let's Have a War" (Fear) 3:28
10."Counting Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drums" (Howerdel / Keenan) 5:36
11."When the Levee Breaks" (Memphis Minnie and Kansas Joe McCoy; Led Zeppelin) 5:55
12."Fiddle and the Drum" (Joni Mitchell)

Imagine :

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one


thanks -if- to you spending your time reading this.
I am just a simple human being who wants world peace.
I again apologize if you didn't like the structure.

and I love this community.

with respects,
Desu out.

Note : I know war and murder is reality of this world, it is happening in my country too, I am just very irritated about this reality and I oppose it.

**
stiga
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
June 25 2010 17:14 GMT
#2
quick question i cant find the thread with the pictures of you haha. then ill finish reading!!
-Desu-
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Turkey173 Posts
June 25 2010 17:16 GMT
#3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108630&currentpage=24#474
stiga
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
June 25 2010 17:45 GMT
#4
haha i found it! and i read the rest of your blog but war hasnt really touched me enough personally to feel the pain that it sounds like you do :-/ i suppose im fortunate
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
June 25 2010 17:48 GMT
#5
I only know that a Perfect Circle is basically the guy from Tool. I couldn't help but notice that almost all of those songs are covers. What makes them better than the originals? I haven't heard them, but I'm skeptical they can out-perform the original artists on tracks like "What's Going On?", "When the Levee Breaks" or even "Imagine". Are they very different takes on the songs, or just basically the same but in a "dark" style?
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 25 2010 17:50 GMT
#6
Damnit, clicking on this I was hoping for something like
"A Perfect Circle announces new album"
but I guess it's tools turn again anyways, which is good since that's one of few bands I like more than APC.
have you got the Ashes Divide album? Really great album too, if APC never continues because of AD I'm actually fine with that.

I agree, war is really depressing
if you ever find yourself having too good of a mood then you should go watch "War Photographer", a movie about photographer James Nachtwey, great man...
in a way it's a depressing movie but I also found it really inspiring in the sense that it shows you to see each life's worth, how much we can accomplish and that we shouldn't waste our time.

funny that you mention this album now, I havent listened to it in a very long time but in the last few days I kept having this earworm of "people are people so why should it be 'you and I cannot get along'"...
beep boop
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 17:54:59
June 25 2010 17:54 GMT
#7
On June 26 2010 02:48 BroOd wrote:
I only know that a Perfect Circle is basically the guy from Tool. I couldn't help but notice that almost all of those songs are covers. What makes them better than the originals? I haven't heard them, but I'm skeptical they can out-perform the original artists on tracks like "What's Going On?", "When the Levee Breaks" or even "Imagine". Are they very different takes on the songs, or just basically the same but in a "dark" style?


Basically just the guy from tool doing his solo thing= puscifer, not a perfect circle
A Perfect Circle is a different band with the fronter of tool, but also with the great billy howerdel (who sings a lot on this album too) and Josh Freese. (The bassist changed some time, was Troy von Leeuwen or what he was called again, who is now member of Queens Of The StoneAge)

These covers are unlike most covers imo viable because they do change them a whole lot.
Imagine has a completely different feel because of how "dark" it is, while "When the levee breaks" has this incredibly relaxed ambience to it, some beautiful piano in it, just really really different compared to the original.
beep boop
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
June 25 2010 18:00 GMT
#8
On June 26 2010 02:54 7mk wrote:
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On June 26 2010 02:48 BroOd wrote:
I only know that a Perfect Circle is basically the guy from Tool. I couldn't help but notice that almost all of those songs are covers. What makes them better than the originals? I haven't heard them, but I'm skeptical they can out-perform the original artists on tracks like "What's Going On?", "When the Levee Breaks" or even "Imagine". Are they very different takes on the songs, or just basically the same but in a "dark" style?


Basically just the guy from tool doing his solo thing= puscifer, not a perfect circle
A Perfect Circle is a different band with the fronter of tool, but also with the great billy howerdel (who sings a lot on this album too) and Josh Freese. (The bassist changed some time, was Troy von Leeuwen or what he was called again, who is now member of Queens Of The StoneAge)

These covers are unlike most covers imo viable because they do change them a whole lot.
Imagine has a completely different feel because of how "dark" it is, while "When the levee breaks" has this incredibly relaxed ambience to it, some beautiful piano in it, just really really different compared to the original.

Ok, I'll check it out later. I have this vague sense that I've heard the version of "Imagine" before, but I'm not sure.
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StifSokSamurai
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 18:19:30
June 25 2010 18:18 GMT
#9
Here is a link to the music video of APC's rendition of Imagine. Very dark indeed.



EDIT: Embedding disabled but should still be able to follow to the actual youtube link.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 20:28:25
June 25 2010 20:21 GMT
#10
APC is such an incredible band. I wish they would release another album.





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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 20:40:03
June 25 2010 20:31 GMT
#11
^ Passive is like the sickest song ever. I remember listening to that on repeat like 100 times Listening to APC's version of Imagine for the first time and its pretty cool.

APC is really amazing but I gotta say I like Tool more. Super excited for their new album.

Edit: I'm re-listening to some of my old favourite APC songs (The Noose, Blue, etc...) and I don't think I can really put either Tool or APC ahead of the other. Its really a completely different feel to the music. I guess I'll just say they're both totally awesome for completely different reasons.
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