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My girlfriend and I, we ordered an XL pan + 3 sides (salad, bread sticks, wings)
It was raining like no tomorrow outside and the poor guy somehow got soaked in the distance from car to lobby. . . He comes up and knocks I gave him a 5 because that was reasonable for the amount of food we ordered and he seemed pretty happy that he got tipped.
I look inside the bag of sides and he forgot the salad. I tell him before he goes down the elevator and he said he'd come back in 5 minutes. He did. With the wrong fucking salad. That guy doesn't come to my place no more for deliveries.
True Story.
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I worked at domino's pizza for a while at minimum wage... I would say that it was quite hard because I had a lot of trouble panning out the dough to the right size (LOL).
Apparently all the delivery guys get paid $6.50 (mileage and something else?) and whatever they get for tip is theirs. I thought that seemed pretty fair because for large orders people usually tip $3-5 extra.
Delivery is the way to go if you ever plan on working at a pizza place, but hell, its competition with other delivery drivers that gets on your nerves, your co-workers will steal your orders, and that will really get you riled up especially if it was a large $30-50 order. I can't remember how many times our drivers ended up yelling at each other and became super bitter at the end of the day, and the managers can't do anything about it because its been done. I suggest you get to your destination quicker than usual, its more incentive to get back and get your next order.
Hope things get better for you OP, that looks like some good money!
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If you can get in a restaurant that is located downtown you can get some sick delivery tips from businesses and hospitals ect. that buy their entire staff lunch. People like drug representitives usually tip about 50$ because the pharmaceutical companies are paying for it anyway. I made 7.00 an hour, plus I got $2.50 everytime I left on a delivery for gas/vehicle maitinence. ($2.50 was paid by the company, not the customer). $200 in about 3 hours was my average. Bring your PSP and watch movies while you work. It really was one of the greatest and most lucrative jobs I ever had! If I didnt move to another state I never would have quit.
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I have a question in regards to pizza places. I usually do carry out at Papa Johns, but 90% of the time I never tip, because I am the one going over there picking it up. Is this still bad as not tipping for delivery? I mean, they just make it and wait for to me get there. So should I tip in this situation?
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i heard the drivers pay for any parking tickets received while on the job. c/d?
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Ordering pizza and picking it up is like going to a coffee-shop or Mcdonalds. Its not necessary to tip for food if no one brings it to you. If they have a tip jar on the counter I would put my change in it, but tipping is definitely not required in this situation.
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On June 18 2010 17:11 Medzo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 16:00 CharlieMurphy wrote:On June 18 2010 15:57 KwarK wrote:
Americans tip for pizza? I get tipping in restaurants (although I find the assumption of tips abhorrent) but tipping for pizza? What can a delivery guy really offer beyond the pizza you already ordered. It's not like he's gonna refill your drink for you. You have more interaction with the guy behind the til and McDonalds and he's in a better position to offer you customer service. Do you tip him too?
That said, congrats on finding a decent job that you enjoy. The thing that bothers me though, is when pizza places charge a delivery fee (which i assume is applied to the delivery man's salary or split) and then the guys want tips on top. The drivers don't get a cent of the delivery fee. The delivery fee is a way for the consumer to pay for the company's insurance. It is very misleading.
Not always true. I received $1.25 out of the $2.00 tip. Also, I am 90% sure the store did not have non-owned vehicle insurance.
Even if I did get the full $2.00 it would be a pretty absurd rationalization against tipping. It would only pay me a little more than the cost of gas and once the wear on my car was taken into account it would probably break even leaving me making minimum wage. And if I am getting the full delivery fee, it likely means that I need absurdly expensive commercial insurance OR I must drive illegally for the privilege of this minimum wage job, also putting myself at risk of a million dollar lawsuit if I am to ever injure anyone. Plus tips give incentive for faster, friendlier service. Unless one pizza has much more time on it I will always deliver my first order to an address I remember that tips well. Additionally, there is a built-in progressive pay scale for pizza. The poor can pay less, the rich often pay more. It's like those "pay what you want" album sales. I don't see what could be more fair. If you don't want to tip, fine. Around 20% of people didn't tip pre-recession, went up to about 35% post-recession; I never get angry about it. I just don't see why you would be bothered by a voluntary custom.
On June 19 2010 03:47 zZygote wrote:
Delivery is the way to go if you ever plan on working at a pizza place, but hell, its competition with other delivery drivers that gets on your nerves, your co-workers will steal your orders, and that will really get you riled up especially if it was a large $30-50 order. I can't remember how many times our drivers ended up yelling at each other and became super bitter at the end of the day, and the managers can't do anything about it because its been done. I suggest you get to your destination quicker than usual, its more incentive to get back and get your next order.
Never happened around Panago. The system is completely computerized and theres a straightforward queue showing who is next to deliver. If it's not obvious that 2 or 3 orders should go together you usually asked the supervisor what you should take. People were quite courteous about it.
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I'm not a driver but one of the drivers for Korean food delivery told me that he has to pay parking tickets himself. The parking ticket in my building's pick-up/drop off area is either $40 or $400 depending if he parks in front of the emergency fire route. Guess where he parked. GG
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what school do you attend?
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On June 18 2010 16:31 Polar_Nada wrote:
wow i never realized pizza delivery was such a good job O_O
I have friends who hate it, and i have friends who loves it lol
Idk its basically the gas you waste, is pretty much paid for by tips.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=115302
Best Pizza guy in the USA currently Number 3 in the world.
He just left the shop I work at (no delivery there) to go work for Tony G in San Fran.
Ive spent way to many years in this pot head paradise known as pizza.But I do know many great Pizzaiola's. I also make a bomb diggity berry dessert pie.
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On June 18 2010 16:39 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2010 16:00 CharlieMurphy wrote:On June 18 2010 15:57 KwarK wrote:
Americans tip for pizza? I get tipping in restaurants (although I find the assumption of tips abhorrent) but tipping for pizza? What can a delivery guy really offer beyond the pizza you already ordered. It's not like he's gonna refill your drink for you. You have more interaction with the guy behind the til and McDonalds and he's in a better position to offer you customer service. Do you tip him too?
That said, congrats on finding a decent job that you enjoy. the pizza dudes often use their own cars to deliver. The pizza places normally pay half of all gas costs, or even if they pay it all or whatever they are still devaluing their car driving around all day to service the public. If they didn't get tips, they could find another job right? Then who's gonna deliver your pizza when you're a lazy pos. The thing that bothers me though, is when pizza places charge a delivery fee (which i assume is applied to the delivery man's salary or split) and then the guys want tips on top. That's the same as the waitress argument where because the employers underpay them and treat them like shit it becomes the burden of the consumer to dole out charity. I don't buy that. The only reason a pizza place can get away with not paying the petrol expenses is because they can convince someone else to through tips. In every other job if you are required to use your vehicle on company business they refund expenses. There's not even any customer service element in pizza delivery, the tipping really is just charity. It's utterly absurd.
but you're not just paying for the other expenses that their employer isn't covering. Like others in the thread have suggested, You're paying for standard TIPS (to insure prompt service) for speed, accuracy, consistency, etc. If they fuck up your order, you don't tip- or tip less. If they do it two or three times, well then you don't buy there anymore.
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Where's Psyonic_Reaver to comment on this?
Back on topic (kind of) just being a food delivery guy is awesome. I did a delivery gig for a local sandwich place for a few months. Made hella tips, loved the drug reps that ordered from our place because they just had you a wad of cash not caring one bit. Granted most of what I did was business delivery, not home delivery but tips were still pretty awesome. Learned to love pay days even more, not only was my meager check deposited to my bank account, but people tended to tip more and we were far busier. Mileage wasn't too bad on my car either, the place I worked dealt only within a 5 mile radius which in the area isn't bad. Pay wasn't that great, something like $6.25/hr working about 4 hours a day and around a quarter per mile for gas, but then again when you're leaving with an extra $30 in your pocket you don't need the high wages.
When I wasn't delivering stuff I was either cracking eggs to use for breakfast the next day, helping get the dishes taken care of (served more than sandwiches), or took orders directly.
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On June 19 2010 05:05 LosingID8 wrote:
what school do you attend?
Going to UC Irvine this year!
I guess most people agree that delivery is the thing to do in a restaurant =] Minimum wage in California is already $8 so the tips are just an added bonus, and gas isn't really that bad since when you take multiple deliveries at once your saving quite a bit anyways.
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Hmm.. I don't like tipping for deliveries.
As an example in Australia, Dominos charges $7-8 for a pizza if you pickup.
For deliveries they charge a $10 delivery fee and pizzas are $10 each minimum. So ordering 3 large Pizzas costs $40 add some drinks and garlic bread you're looking at $50 vs $25 for the same if you pickup. The delivery guys get paid $18p/hr and are provided a vehicle.
The only time I get pizza delivery is if I am working late at the office and then I get work to pay for it.
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On June 19 2010 20:53 Energies wrote:
Hmm.. I don't like tipping for deliveries.
As an example in Australia, Dominos charges $7-8 for a pizza if you pickup.
For deliveries they charge a $10 delivery fee and pizzas are $10 each minimum. So ordering 3 large Pizzas costs $40 add some drinks and garlic bread you're looking at $50 vs $25 for the same if you pickup. The delivery guys get paid $18p/hr and are provided a vehicle.
The only time I get pizza delivery is if I am working late at the office and then I get work to pay for it.
And this is why tipping can be good for the consumer. Obviously if there is no tipping you will still have to pay for the service, and it may be more expensive than it would have been if there was a discretionary tip. Also, tips allow you to have some input on the quality or services received.
The way I see it, the tipping system breaks down when:
a) customers refuse to recognize the custom and don't tip without any reason.
b) tipping customs are unclear (common in hotels or situations where many customers don't frequently find themselves in that situation and so don't know the customs) so both customers and workers are constantly irritated at each other
or the customer is from a different culture with different tipping norms and fails to adjust.
c) The management of an establishment backs up their workers no matter what, and makes tips "non-discretionary". An example of this would be complaining about poor service, and then having a "service charge" added to your bill. Rare but it happens.
d) The fact that tipping for good service enables people with more means to often get better service is arguably a mark against it, but service is not usually zero-sum so I don't think this is generally a problem.
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