I was wondering what bands you would suggest to someone who loves Trivium/Protest The Hero/Dream Theater, and tolerates Children of Bodom. (Their guitar riffs get pretty generic, and their lyrics are sub par)
This is what I'm looking for:
Highly technical guitar riffs Highly Technical drum lines Clean Singing OR tasteful screaming (Unearth/All That Remains/Lamb Of Gods/Killswitch Engaged screams and growls sound awful) Strong sense of melody throughout while maintaining technicality. Meaningful/interesting lyrics. (Nothing cliche' like Avenged Sevenfold, Five Finger Death Punch, Black Tide, or Bullet for My Valentine) Face melting solos. Thrash Influence Melodic Deathmetal Influence Progressive Metal Influence New (formed within the last 10 years)
He who walks the fire breathes unlike the rest living by the bloody creed Kirisute Gomen
Air of battle tasting stale reeks of deceit send the bitter straight to hell Kirisute Gomen
In their wretched guts all they want is to feed unending, covetous hunger known as greed as the last legion makes it's way to the skies
I can see in their eyes they've already died inside, but as for the outside I'll take their fucking heads
Quake has bred with the storm conceiving war wicked stampeding hordes kirisute gomen
In their wretched guts all they want is to feed unending, covetous hunger known as greed as the last legion makes it's way to the skies
I can see in their eyes they've already died inside, but as for the outside I'll take their fucking heads
I can see in their eyes they've already died inside, but as for the outside I'll take their fucking heads
I will never be what they want me to I live by my own path in life no turning back now, I won't be held down forced into a shallow grave built upon their empty ways there's no turning back
There's hell to pay, such disarray a bloodied mess, flesh masquerade with all the blood making a flood you made your path by crossing us
(Solo)
He who spits the fire seethes all he detests decapitating, bloody creed Kirisute Gomen
In their wretched guts all they want is to feed unending, covetous hunger known as greed as the last legion makes it's way to the skies
I can see in their eyes they've already died inside, but as for the outside I'll take their fucking heads
I can see in their eyes they've already died inside, but as for the outside I'll take their fucking heads
I will never be what they want me to I live by my own path in life no turning back now, I won't be held down forced into a shallow grave built upon their empty ways there's no turning back
I will never be what they want me to I live by my own path in life no turning back now, I won't be held down forced into a shallow grave built upon their empty ways there's no turning back
I've just been trying to branch out with my music, as I've been listening to the same three bands for about a year now (With a bit of metallica and instrumental metal bands) If anyone could point me to something great I would be really appreciative!
One question though, your using Trivium as an example of good lyricism? I vaguely remember a verse going "Stress! Breaking my back!", "Dragon!".etc. Horrible band anyways.
I've always heard that Trivium is Metalcore, but theres been debate about that, (Honestly, I think they're drastically different than most metalcore bands...they're just unique)
So I've been trying to find metalcore bands that I like, but it seems like I should be trying more power metal : P Thank you very much!
Instrumental: Animals as Leaders - They are very jazzy with lots of metal. Very guitar focused and simply amazing. Songs - On Impulse, CAFO, Tempting Time, any others. Theres not a bad song by them.
Technical Death Metal: Veil of Maya - SUPER SUPER heavy prog band lots of bass drum. They don't know how to slow down the face melting and they don't stay in one time signature or one tempo for long. Songs - It's not safe to swim today, Mark the lines, We bow in it's aure, anything from The common man's collapse.
Born of Osiris - Same reasons as the previous band except they have a baller keyboard player. Not quite as good as Jordan Rudess ( Dream Theater) but still worth checking out. Songs - Empires Erased, Abstract Art, Bow Down, anything from The New Reign.
The Faceless - Just a strange middle eastern sounding heavy metal guitarist makes this band worth listening too. Really really technically interesting and great solos. Songs - Anything from Planetary Duality.
Progressive Death Metal: Between the Buried and Me - My personal favorite band. I like to think of them as the Dream Theater of death metal. They go through every style in the book and tie it together with thought provoking lyrics and an extreme sense of maturity. Selkies: The Endless Obsession, White Walls, Ants of the Sky, Alaska, Mordecai, Backwards Marathon, they don't have any bad songs really.
Also if you like Trivium, check out Anterior. They're similar to trivium but they're a little heavier, no singing and the guitar players really outshine Trivium in my opinion.
On June 13 2010 14:15 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: Get any band that those bands list as influences.
One question though, your using Trivium as an example of good lyricism? I vaguely remember a verse going "Stress! Breaking my back!", "Dragon!".etc. Horrible band anyways.
That song isn't the greatest in the lyrical sense, but Trivium uses alot of Mythological beings/Imagery/Messages in their lyrics, Its not 'whiney' which is what I'm having trouble with alot of metalcore bands now today.
Stress, Breaking my back, Pulse is stuttering, Pressure, Mental attack, My thoughts clattering
Beating this dead horse, Is exhausting, Heartbreaking, To see my hand shaking, I'm knee-deep, In the dead still waiting, Still waiting in this, This well-called life
Nervousness halting all will Forcing apathy Anxiety an aching chill Hammering down me
Beating this dead horse Is exhausting Heartbreaking To see my hand shaking I'm knee-deep in the dead Still waiting Still waiting in this This well-called life
Tread the floods So you can hope to seize Your own reality (Be)fore it escapes thee Watch yourself drown in disarray It's time to break away Or we�ll die today
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so thank you for yours. I used to think Trivium was horrible when everyone liked them, as I had already learned that what most people like is normally not good. (Everyone was balls deep in My Chemical Romance and Linkin' park as well, and then came Screamo.) But Trivium really stuck with me, I stopped listening to Nu-metal, realizing that it was absolute garbage. (Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed...Wtf was I thinking?) and funny enough, now I rate everything I listen to as, "Is it remotely as good as Trivium?" Theres just a combination of different things that make Trivium's songwriting special, that no other band can really replicate. Anyway, enough of my fanboyism, thank you for your comment!
On June 13 2010 14:15 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: Get any band that those bands list as influences.
One question though, your using Trivium as an example of good lyricism? I vaguely remember a verse going "Stress! Breaking my back!", "Dragon!".etc. Horrible band anyways.
That song isn't the greatest in the lyrical sense, but Trivium uses alot of Mythological beings/Imagery/Messages in their lyrics, Its not 'whiney' which is what I'm having trouble with alot of metalcore bands now today.
Stress, Breaking my back, Pulse is stuttering, Pressure, Mental attack, My thoughts clattering
Beating this dead horse, Is exhausting, Heartbreaking, To see my hand shaking, I'm knee-deep, In the dead still waiting, Still waiting in this, This well-called life
Nervousness halting all will Forcing apathy Anxiety an aching chill Hammering down me
Beating this dead horse Is exhausting Heartbreaking To see my hand shaking I'm knee-deep in the dead Still waiting Still waiting in this This well-called life
Tread the floods So you can hope to seize Your own reality (Be)fore it escapes thee Watch yourself drown in disarray It's time to break away Or we�ll die today
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so thank you for yours. I used to think Trivium was horrible when everyone liked them, as I had already learned that what most people like is normally not good. (Everyone was balls deep in My Chemical Romance and Linkin' park as well, and then came Screamo.) But Trivium really stuck with me, I stopped listening to Nu-metal, realizing that it was absolute garbage. (Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed...Wtf was I thinking?) and funny enough, now I rate everything I listen to as, "Is it remotely as good as Trivium?" Theres just a combination of different things that make Trivium's songwriting special, that no other band can really replicate. Anyway, enough of my fanboyism, thank you for your comment!
Don't hate, nu-metal is bomb. What about Killswitch Engage? Also some of the older All That Remains..?
On June 13 2010 14:20 Sparkyrabbit wrote: If you want prog heres my list:
Instrumental: Animals as Leaders - They are very jazzy with lots of metal. Very guitar focused and simply amazing. Songs - On Impulse, CAFO, Tempting Time, any others. Theres not a bad song by them.
Technical Death Metal: Veil of Maya - SUPER SUPER heavy prog band lots of bass drum. They don't know how to slow down the face melting and they don't stay in one time signature or one tempo for long. Songs - It's not safe to swim today, Mark the lines, We bow in it's aure, anything from The common man's collapse.
Born of Osiris - Same reasons as the previous band except they have a baller keyboard player. Not quite as good as Jordan Rudess ( Dream Theater) but still worth checking out. Songs - Empires Erased, Abstract Art, Bow Down, anything from The New Reign.
The Faceless - Just a strange middle eastern sounding heavy metal guitarist makes this band worth listening too. Really really technically interesting and great solos. Songs - Anything from Planetary Duality.
Progressive Death Metal: Between the Buried and Me - My personal favorite band. I like to think of them as the Dream Theater of death metal. They go through every style in the book and tie it together with thought provoking lyrics and an extreme sense of maturity. Selkies: The Endless Obsession, White Walls, Ants of the Sky, Alaska, Mordecai, Backwards Marathon, they don't have any bad songs really.
Also if you like Trivium, check out Anterior. They're similar to trivium but they're a little heavier, no singing and the guitar players really outshine Trivium in my opinion.
Hope this helps.
I absolutely LOVE Animals as Leaders. They just blew me away!
The next three bands, I didn't like their vocals, too much bark : P But I still loved their guitar parts.
Between The Buried and Me was GREAT until the vocals kicked in as well.
I didn't really like Anterior, too identical to Shadow's Fall IMO. (Vocals as well)
Thank you for turning me into Animals As Leaders though! : D I'm going to be listening to them for a while to come I think. ^_^
While I may not have a suggestion for you, I feel great that someone actually enjoys Trivium other than myself. I've found nothing but negativity toward them. Rock on.
I love their first 2 albums didn't like their 3rd and now their 4th is pretty good but imo still not what their first 2 were (from ember to inferno and I forget the other)
Someone else said it, but I'm going to say it again Between the Buried and Me. Listen to their album Colors it is pretty much one song and it is amazing.
On June 13 2010 15:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I love their first 2 albums didn't like their 3rd and now their 4th is pretty good but imo still not what their first 2 were (from ember to inferno and I forget the other)
Ascendancy, and yeah The Crusade was a bit off target (but it still had some good stuff, definitely Becoming the Dragon) and Shogun but them right back on track for me. When I first got Shogun I listened to it at least twice per day for a month lol
Trivium is one of the gayest bands on earth, even though their first album actually had some pretty sick solos. Matt Heafy is actually a good guitarist--its too bad he's chosen to play some of the gayest music known to man. Trivium songs have GOOD lyrics? Are you insane?
If you want some GOOD music that has all of the qualities you listed, listen to some Death.
The little Trivium i've heard borrowed heavily from Faith No More (almost directly stealing the bridge from Crack Hitler) so you might want to try them.
You'll get fantastic lyrics and melodies, various metal influences, and great musicianship. They're more tasteful then technical though.
Try Opeth - they're the least generic band I know of. Very progressive, they switch from, for example, death metal screams with incredible guitar/drum playing to slow acoustics mid song, makes for really epic songs that are different every time (unlike CoB) that really, only Opeth can pull off. Obviously, the diversity isn't for everyone, but I can't do them justice so Youtube will:
^Opeth <3. To OP, as one has mentioned, I think you'd like Periphery. Quite prog'ish, and some nice vocals, mixed with a really clean growl. This is their "hit" I'd say:
Really nice song imo, great guitar and vocals. Btw, if you like this kind of music you should REALLY try to learn to appreciate growl vocals. It opens doors to so much amazing music. If you want to try to listen to growl vocals seriously, Opeth is a great start, singer has some of the most amazing growl vocals ever!
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