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How I Beat a B- - Page 3

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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 03 2010 22:18 GMT
#41
On June 04 2010 05:09 Harem wrote:
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On June 04 2010 02:43 Megalisk wrote:
I beat a b- in a zvz and I'm c- ..felt good man :D

When I beat Tetra in ZvZ last time, he said he wanted to quit life.

Hahahaha
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 04 2010 01:37 GMT
#42
On June 04 2010 06:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
one time i beat sea[shield]'s friend who was reportedly A- on iccup 3-2 tvp on medusa

so this blog is now about me


I'm just gonna go ahead and doubt these reports
beep boop
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
June 04 2010 04:31 GMT
#43
fuck

iccup is so hard right now T_T damn koreans T_T i went 1-6 today faaaaaaack

played a A though so it's all good! ^^
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
ToastFluff
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia13 Posts
June 04 2010 08:21 GMT
#44
Wow. I didnt expect this to get so much traffic. Thanks everybody for giving me a laugh!
lansichai
Profile Joined May 2010
11 Posts
June 04 2010 10:20 GMT
#45
stupid ... lings are so easy micro at beginning of game..... u noe u need drage 4-5 scv +marine to kill 6-8 lings? =.= .....and its so hard micro with marine+scv compare ling just 1A on marine so easy!
Hi
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
June 04 2010 10:38 GMT
#46
Your greedy 1 rax expo relies on good scv/marine micro so either play a safer build or get better at micro.
No I'm never serious.
ToastFluff
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia13 Posts
June 04 2010 11:11 GMT
#47
Wut? I'm the Z.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 14:43:39
June 04 2010 14:43 GMT
#48
On June 04 2010 06:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
one time i beat sea[shield]'s friend who was reportedly A- on iccup 3-2 tvp on medusa

so this blog is now about me

I'd suggest maybe it was Bisu[Shield] but I doubt he'd make A- on current form...
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
June 04 2010 15:33 GMT
#49
On June 03 2010 23:08 PJA wrote:
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On June 03 2010 23:04 TheAntZ wrote:
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'


Because players who are D+/C- aren't capable of becoming B- players? Your analogy fails horribly. Cripples can't get better at running, D+ players can get better at BW.

And yes, B- isn't that good. The gap between B- and competitive foreigners is probably 10x greater than the get between D+ and B-. You can go from D+ to B- in a few months if you play a lot, good luck doing the same with B- to A+.


Where are you pulling your facts from? Reaching a certain rank is a variable factor that is different for everyone, but most people would find it very difficult to reach the B- skill level from D+ in just a few months on their own. Simply "if you play a lot" isn't going to cut it.

Also, the difference between D+ and B-, and "competitive foreigners" isn't 10x different; it's an undeterminable factor that isn't as overestimated as you may think.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 21 2010 17:42 GMT
#50
On June 05 2010 00:33 ilovezil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 23:08 PJA wrote:
On June 03 2010 23:04 TheAntZ wrote:
People who are saying B- is shit, I dont mean to be rude but do you realize how crushing that is to players like myself who barely reach D+/C- and think hell yeah! and suddenly theres these 300 apm B- gosus saying 'oh yeah im fuckin terrible'
thats like a member of the track team going in front of a cripple and saying 'fuck these legs of mine, fuckin useless stumps, i suck at running'


Because players who are D+/C- aren't capable of becoming B- players? Your analogy fails horribly. Cripples can't get better at running, D+ players can get better at BW.

And yes, B- isn't that good. The gap between B- and competitive foreigners is probably 10x greater than the get between D+ and B-. You can go from D+ to B- in a few months if you play a lot, good luck doing the same with B- to A+.


Where are you pulling your facts from? Reaching a certain rank is a variable factor that is different for everyone, but most people would find it very difficult to reach the B- skill level from D+ in just a few months on their own. Simply "if you play a lot" isn't going to cut it.

Also, the difference between D+ and B-, and "competitive foreigners" isn't 10x different; it's an undeterminable factor that isn't as overestimated as you may think.

I agree with this, D+ reaching B- is hard, no doubt you'll have to be dedicated and practice a lot with watching replays of your failures. B- to A+ also will take longer, but for some individuals will be really easy. Some people are just better at mechanics than others, and need less practice which would fit the term "talented' and i've known guys that jumped from B- to A- in very short times
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
k20a
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada412 Posts
June 21 2010 18:54 GMT
#51
On June 04 2010 23:43 deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 06:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
one time i beat sea[shield]'s friend who was reportedly A- on iccup 3-2 tvp on medusa

so this blog is now about me

I'd suggest maybe it was Bisu[Shield] but I doubt he'd make A- on current form...

Even while slumping progamers would ezrape their way through A
"It's like that one time Luke Skywalker threw the ring in to Mordor to kill Hitler, or something" - Tasteless
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