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People who don't care for RTS won't touch it, that's just how it goes.
In my case, a lot of my friends from back in high school, we used to screw around with Starcraft and D2 and such, but me and maybe one other actually got somewhat into the competitive aspect... and in my case I never found any motivation to get better than D+. To me, they're all "casual" players.
And we've all somehow managed to congregate again on the internet thanks to SC2, and the Facebook feature has even somehow reconnected us to a couple friends from HS that we hadn't spoken to in a while (zomg, a use).
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Somehow a lot of kids at my school have picked up SCBW and have started playing in the past few weeks, since the school year is ending. As of such, none of them are any good but they're learning... slowly. Quite a few of them have picked up SCII as well, and they seem to be satisfied/thrilled with the game. The fact that the SCII b.net disconcerts us, old BW players, doesn't mean that these new people who have no concept of how the original SC worked won't like SCII b.net or the game in general. Hell, I'm sure a lot of people will want to play the game based on name and flashy graphics alone, and a lot of people ask me about SCII since my roommate and I are the resident actual SCBW players.
As of such, I've been able to introduce both BW and SCII to people, but people seem to find BW hard (lawl it is) and SCII is more about the graphics.
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Wait for the campaign to come out. Noobs don't want to compete, they want to be a hero in an adventure.
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On May 28 2010 02:08 jrmy wrote:
I couldn't help but notice the discussion on the lack of LAN implemented into SC2. I couldn't reply to the post(rights, assuming low post count is the cause) so I figured I would just post a blog and see how other people felt on the issue.
The thread was probably closed by an admin before you replied to it. I don't know of any postcount related limitations on TL, or anything of that kind.
I too fail to see how SC2 is going to attract a lot of"casual gamers". So far I have not been able to sparkle the interest of anyone who wasn't already playing games somewhat competitively.
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yeah dont forget the single player, i bet plenty of bw "players" never touched a competitive melee game
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I think the whole genre of RTS is #2 next to MMORPGs in the 'games that casuals will likely not try' due to the game depth and what a time sink your average title is...'
FPS and sports games basically cater to all skill levels. You need no prior experience or knowledge to really jump right in.
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I have a few friends that either never played BW or never cared enough to try to be good at BW who are planning on getting SC2 because it's a new Blizzard game.
Plenty of people you would probably consider casual gamers will play multiplayer competitively - they'll just be competing in smaller groups or lower-level leagues. Someone might have the goal to top their Bronze division, for instance, or to be able to beat their friends. I consider myself a casual BW player - when I played, I never cared about how good I was in relation to the masses of b.net, I only wanted to be able to beat my friend who owned me every game. I still played a ton of BW. Nowadays, I hop on ICCUP once in a while, but my grandest goal is to make it to being a solid D. To say that 90% of people aren't going to be interested in being top-tier, getting into the pro league, and making money at tournaments is sort of a conservative estimate, I think.
Unless if by "casual gamer" you mean someone who only plays games like bejeweled. In which case, no, none of them are probably going to buy it.
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On May 28 2010 02:29 mmp wrote:
Wait for the campaign to come out. Noobs don't want to compete, they want to be a hero in an adventure.
absolutely
even i am excited about the single player 
im sure it will be fun
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I actually have never played all the way through the sc:bw campaign, but i'm sure that makes me in the minority. It's on my todo list before sc2 comes out though
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Yeah, the single player will probably pull in a pretty big number of people. I guess a lot of it will fall on the structuring of the ladder system and how it places people. If bronze will truly stay bronze and give people an entry point it should help out.
The thing to consider though, is that Starcraft 2's success will not only rely on opening sells but the longevity of the game. It's not a "Modern Warfare" type of game where the company will release version 2 or 3 the following year, its going to depend on the competitiveness of the ladder. They will have to pull people in initially and then latch onto them like they did with WoW.
One of my biggest worries is that they will treat it like WoW and constantly patch the game to the point where the race you play depends on the latest patch notes and which race got buffed up (flavor of the month).
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yeah, the single player is gonna be kickass
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On May 28 2010 02:35 Hawk wrote:
I think the whole genre of RTS is #2 next to MMORPGs in the 'games that casuals will likely not try' due to the game depth and what a time sink your average title is...'
FPS and sports games basically cater to all skill levels. You need no prior experience or knowledge to really jump right in.
i think you accidentaly swapped FPS and MMORPGs in your statement there
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I highly doubt they'll do the "flavor of the month" thing with this game: Look at all their previous RTS titles. They got them to where they wanted them and left them that way. I don't see why that won't be the same with SC2. Of course, there's probably going to be a lot of changes with the expansions, but down the road I don't see a lot of patching.
Also, I can't get any of my friends to play this game. Everybody I know who's in to gaming are either stuck on online RPGs or easier games in general. It's such a shame.
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My friend is gonna buy it on my recommendation, and hes a casual gamer ((and a jew)teehee).
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A lot of casuals buy the game, be a hero in the Campaign. When they get adventurous they go try a ladder match, get placed in Bronze or something or lose a couple of times then give up because it is too 'hard' or they got into a shitty league (wtf I pwned the Campaign and got placed in Bronze??? *rage quit*).
FaceBook/Flash games are more suited to casuals who don't want to use their brain while on the computer most of the time anyway. However there are the few who will actually go ahead into the competitive aspect and find that more fun and challenging than the Campaign.
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On May 28 2010 04:55 daz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 02:35 Hawk wrote:
I think the whole genre of RTS is #2 next to MMORPGs in the 'games that casuals will likely not try' due to the game depth and what a time sink your average title is...'
FPS and sports games basically cater to all skill levels. You need no prior experience or knowledge to really jump right in.
i think you accidentaly swapped FPS and MMORPGs in your statement there
Are you kidding me? Look how many people like to play CoD and BF and look how many people like to play WoW...
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when im telling them they will be no channel for talk they go all , WHATTTTTTTTTTTT ??
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Lots of people will play SC2, I think many of you underestimate the popularity StarCraft has gained over 12 years. Include younger kids looking for the latest game to play, and you have a massive player base. However, most people will, as mentioned, almost solely play the campaign and/or UMS games. As time passes, ladders will have less participation and rankings will get deflated, while flocks of people play the next DotA.
On May 28 2010 07:14 DallasTx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 04:55 daz wrote:On May 28 2010 02:35 Hawk wrote:
I think the whole genre of RTS is #2 next to MMORPGs in the 'games that casuals will likely not try' due to the game depth and what a time sink your average title is...'
FPS and sports games basically cater to all skill levels. You need no prior experience or knowledge to really jump right in.
i think you accidentaly swapped FPS and MMORPGs in your statement there Are you kidding me? Look how many people like to play CoD and BF and look how many people like to play WoW...
An order magnitude more people play WoW than CoD or BF.
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Depending on where you go, everybody in college may or may not play BW.
Haven't met anybody that was really into SC2 yet though.
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On May 28 2010 08:31 Incanus wrote:Lots of people will play SC2, I think many of you underestimate the popularity StarCraft has gained over 12 years. Include younger kids looking for the latest game to play, and you have a massive player base. However, most people will, as mentioned, almost solely play the campaign and/or UMS games. As time passes, ladders will have less participation and rankings will get deflated, while flocks of people play the next DotA. Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 07:14 DallasTx wrote:On May 28 2010 04:55 daz wrote:On May 28 2010 02:35 Hawk wrote:
I think the whole genre of RTS is #2 next to MMORPGs in the 'games that casuals will likely not try' due to the game depth and what a time sink your average title is...'
FPS and sports games basically cater to all skill levels. You need no prior experience or knowledge to really jump right in.
i think you accidentaly swapped FPS and MMORPGs in your statement there Are you kidding me? Look how many people like to play CoD and BF and look how many people like to play WoW... An order magnitude more people play WoW than CoD or BF.
Not only are there so many more of them but they're also like 95% casuals.
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