EPTnot up there in "legendary" which is S class
only Jaedong and Flash have the honor of being "S"
same with an "in form" Bisu
which is long gone
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
not up there in "legendary" which is S class only Jaedong and Flash have the honor of being "S" same with an "in form" Bisu which is long gone | ||
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FireBlast!
United Kingdom5251 Posts
On May 22 2010 02:16 Tom Phoenix wrote: I always mention this in every thread concerning Leta, but I will say it again. Leta is, for all intents and purposes, the successor to Sea[Shield]. An excellent player who carries his team in Proleague, but that will most likely never achieve much in the individual leagues. So he is just like Sea[Shield]....better then his A-level peers, but never quite good enough to make it to S-class. So even if he does ocassionally have a streak of wins, I doubt this will ever change. I'd have to disagree with you, Sea and Leta are quite different players. One obvious difference is that Sea possesses a very high level TvP. Sea is an incomplete S-class because of his lack of starleague success, which is a more pertinent measure of dominance. Leta is on the other hand a complete A-class. More than capable to hold his own in the mirror matchup, outstanding in one matchup and weak in the other. You cant call him a successor to Sea because they're both big name Terran aces for their respective teams. Light would be a far more apt comparison with Leta because of his weak TvP. Funny though, how one would give Leta more of a chance to beat JD/Flash than both Sea and Light. | ||
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
TvZ = A Class TvP = Below How does the rankings even work? Right now S Class = Jaedong, Flash A Class = Fantasy, Calm, Kal, Stork, Free, Leta, Sea, Effort, Zero, etc? | ||
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frogmelter
United States971 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:36 dani_caliKorea wrote: TvT = S Class TvZ = A Class TvP = Below How does the rankings even work? Right now S Class = Jaedong, Flash A Class = Fantasy, Calm, Kal, Stork, Free, Leta, Sea, Effort, Zero, etc? Agreed with S class only being Jaedong and Flash. You can stretch it to include Stork, but that's iffy. Leta isn't S class for sure. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
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TheMunkey
Canada470 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
Wait, what? Stork is not in good enough form to be considered anywhere near S class. Neither is Leta. Jaedong and Flash are the only 2 S-class progamers right now. | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:26 FireBlast! wrote: I'd have to disagree with you, Sea and Leta are quite different players. One obvious difference is that Sea possesses a very high level TvP. Sea is an incomplete S-class because of his lack of starleague success, which is a more pertinent measure of dominance. Leta is on the other hand a complete A-class. More than capable to hold his own in the mirror matchup, outstanding in one matchup and weak in the other. You cant call him a successor to Sea because they're both big name Terran aces for their respective teams. Light would be a far more apt comparison with Leta because of his weak TvP. Funny though, how one would give Leta more of a chance to beat JD/Flash than both Sea and Light. My comparison had less to do with their playstyles and more to do with how their relative success on the professional scene can be compared. Savior and Jaedong are also two very different players, but that didn't stop people from considering Jaedong a spiritual successor to Savior. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
Leta isn't a very good player. Maybe you can lump him at the bottom of A class players, but he's no where near S class. S class players have league titles under their belts. They go on long runs without being defeated. They're alive in the league they participate in. Plus he lost to Type-B. I mean cmon. Getting knocked out at the ro4 by Type B is just really pitiful (actually is that true? I don't remember Type B ever getting to a final. He got knocked out by Yarnc in ro4). To put that in perspective, Rock made ro8 a tonne. Not much to write home about. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 22 2010 04:41 frogmelter wrote: Agreed with S class only being Jaedong and Flash. You can stretch it to include Stork, but that's iffy. Leta isn't S class for sure. How could you extend it to Stork when he isn't even playing better than other Protoss? | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Now since Bisu has fallen, there are only JD and Flash. No one else is even near that level of dominance. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
fanboyism these days... | ||
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Blueblister
Sweden321 Posts
On May 22 2010 01:02 icystorage wrote: Many people in korea (i cant determine source but i read it somewhere here in tl) call him as the "S-Class test". Its because he almost fails everytime he faces S-Class players (he still haven't won one against Jaedong!) but consistently wins against non S-class players. But my question is, do you consider Leta as S-class? I don't find this S-class discussion particularly interesting: It depends on were the threshold lies, top 3 players - top 5 - top 10? I do wonder about why he's being called the S-Class test though. The only top player he consistently loosing to is Jaedong as far as I can remember. Anyone care explaining this to me? | ||
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InTheFade
United States1721 Posts
[x] team ace [x] great record/gameplay [ ] relevant in individual leagues [/] wins on the big stage (team and individual) [chokes in starleagues; wins aces; but huge fail vs Movie last playoffs) [/] beats other S-class players [has hung with flash, but 0-8 vs JD. even DarkElf, SkyHigh, and Ruby beat Jaedong] Definitely better than A-class; not what I'd call S-class | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
 Leta S-class, but definitely high A-class player | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
*Rapes everything under A *Rarely loses to A class in a Bo1, once in a blue moon in a BoX series *Favored against everyone in every game even his bad matchup (e.g. Bisu was favored against A class terrans when he used to be good, remember that?) and only has a chance of considered (slightly) not favored by the masses against another S class player (circular logic, w/e, you know what I mean) Leta definitely doesn't qualify, he can't rape everything under A, and definitely loses to A class players. No one would considered him favored against Jaedong or Flash, and definitely not unanimous favored against Effort or Calm or Sea/Light in PL whereas JD or Flash would be favored except some fun excuse people will tell. | ||
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