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Marauders: why the dev team makes no sense.

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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 01:45:06
May 17 2010 01:43 GMT
#1
I made a long-winded post about marauders on the beta forums (since obviously this kind of stuff can't go on TL.net lately), check it out if you are interested. Keep in mind that I'm not crying imbalance, I just don't like the unit the way it is. I'm curious what other TL'ers think, as its hard to sift through balance discussions to find the semi-intelligent parts.


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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
May 17 2010 01:52 GMT
#2
I think they're fine.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
May 17 2010 01:55 GMT
#3
cool post. I really hate maruaders.

so much of blizzard's balancing methods relied to heavily on buffing the marauder/roach/immortal :\
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Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 02:00:45
May 17 2010 01:57 GMT
#4
Why ? because browder plays terran and cant wiin without his marauders ;P

On a second say, i have to agree. Marauder is now the most cost effective massable unit with the best support units, to back it up.

I lack the skill to form a real oppinion on the subject of imbalance though but if blizzard judges them so terrans will cry.
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 17 2010 01:57 GMT
#5
On May 17 2010 10:52 Chill wrote:
I think they're fine.

Why?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
May 17 2010 01:59 GMT
#6
Did you think it was a good idea to title the thread "why the dev team makes no sense?" Do you want to be taken seriously or not. " It sticks out like a sore thumb as far as lazy and illogical balance decisions go." I mean come on.

I agree with you "it does not attack air" is not a sufficient explanation for why marauders are 'ok' but you didn't have to say "I really want to hear an answer from the dev's that isn't "It cannot attack air" because that simply doesn't cut it and hardcore SC2 fans deserve more respect. "

Basically my mind is subconsciously trying to find ways to discredit your argument right now regardless of what is and isn't correct... it's hard enough dealing with all the bullshit on the blizz forums without the way you chose to write that... still I agree the marauder doesn't seem to fit with <tier2 units that well... but I'm not as concerned as you are.
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lolreaper
Profile Joined April 2010
301 Posts
May 17 2010 02:03 GMT
#7
they are fine
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
May 17 2010 02:04 GMT
#8
I'm not really a fan of the marauder, but it's not exactly the early game effectiveness, though it is pretty damn strong there.

It just bugs me how late game you basically see the terran get 1 control group of MMM, stim and a-move and demolish almost everything. It just looks(and probably is) waaaaaaaaaay too easy. Throwing in ravens for PDD hardly makes it any harder...
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 02:08:02
May 17 2010 02:06 GMT
#9
On May 17 2010 10:59 micronesia wrote:
Did you think it was a good idea to title the thread "why the dev team makes no sense?" Do you want to be taken seriously or not. " It sticks out like a sore thumb as far as lazy and illogical balance decisions go." I mean come on.

I agree with you "it does not attack air" is not a sufficient explanation for why marauders are 'ok' but you didn't have to say "I really want to hear an answer from the dev's that isn't "It cannot attack air" because that simply doesn't cut it and hardcore SC2 fans deserve more respect. "

Basically my mind is subconsciously trying to find ways to discredit your argument right now regardless of what is and isn't correct... it's hard enough dealing with all the bullshit on the blizz forums without the way you chose to write that... still I agree the marauder doesn't seem to fit with <tier2 units that well... but I'm not as concerned as you are.


I figured I would embelish it a little so that it would get more replies lol. I was just pissed off about the Dustin Browder response to the marauder question during that dev chat a while ago. I adjust my tone to suit the forum on which I post lol.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 17 2010 02:17 GMT
#10
if they don't make sense what do they make over there, the blizz devs?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 17 2010 02:21 GMT
#11
I 100% agree with everything you said. Blizzard most likely wont nerf the marauder though which is sad.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
May 17 2010 02:22 GMT
#12
On May 17 2010 10:57 Amnesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2010 10:52 Chill wrote:
I think they're fine.

Why?

Because I have no experiences that prove otherwise.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
May 17 2010 02:22 GMT
#13
I'm a Terran player and I completely agree that Marauders aren't fun to use or play against.
Crisis_
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States165 Posts
May 17 2010 02:26 GMT
#14
I'm predicting a marauder nerf in the next patch, honestly.
Shrine
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia107 Posts
May 17 2010 02:28 GMT
#15
I used to HATE them so bad, then i stopped using stalkers and immortals, now they are easy to beat.
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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
May 17 2010 02:34 GMT
#16
ghost > maruder
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
May 17 2010 02:44 GMT
#17
On May 17 2010 10:55 Ideas wrote:
cool post. I really hate maruaders.

so much of blizzard's balancing methods relied to heavily on buffing the marauder/roach/immortal :\

Wait, what?

I don't have beta, so please explain. All three of these core units have only been nerfed.
DallasTx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
47 Posts
May 17 2010 03:07 GMT
#18
I don't have a beta key to experience Marauders gayness yet .
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
May 17 2010 03:14 GMT
#19
On May 17 2010 11:44 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2010 10:55 Ideas wrote:
cool post. I really hate maruaders.

so much of blizzard's balancing methods relied to heavily on buffing the marauder/roach/immortal :\

Wait, what?

I don't have beta, so please explain. All three of these core units have only been nerfed.


well when you have a unit like the roach before patch 12 that was 75/25 and 1 supply but had almost as much health as a siege tank (and the only zerg ground unit with more health was a fucking ultralisk) and did 16 damage per attack AND has the burrow gimmick clearly shows that as zerg were underpowered before, they just kept buffing the roach to fix any balance problems until you got the super unit you had in patch 1-11 that dominated every zerg strategy (and ofc now they are nerfing the unholy trinity but I think it's just not enough).
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 17 2010 03:24 GMT
#20
On May 17 2010 10:52 Chill wrote:
I think they're fine.


Chill knows best.
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