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Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 18:34 GMT
#1
This is similar to a blog where I gave some thoughts on the way many people say "that's gay." I've been giving a lot of thought about how people call each other retarded all the time... especially lately. Although, this phenomenon has been around since before the 'gay' one started up.

At first I thought you would call someone retarded, or call something retarded, when it's horribly stupid to the point that you have every right to be insulting it repeatedly. Then I started to notice that it gets thrown around much more easily than that. It gets to the point where you misspell a word and people are like "WHAT ARE YOU RETARDED? IT'S THERE NOT THEIR" when you just typed something into IRC real quick and didn't take the time to mentally grammar check it.

So what does retarded mean? I figured dictionary.com would be sufficient for looking up the denotation and I'd rely on urbandictionary.com to clue me in on the connotation.

According to dictionary.com:

–adjective
1.
characterized by retardation: a retarded child.
–noun
2.
(used with a plural verb) mentally retarded persons collectively (usually prec. by the): new schools for the retarded.


This isn't too helpful unless we are willing to also look up 'retard:'


–verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
–verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.
–noun
3.
a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4.
Slang: Disparaging.
a.
a mentally retarded person.
b.
a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.
5.
Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.


So basically retard means 'delayed', and retarded means a person with a very specific mental disability (related to 'delayed'). This coincides with what I already thought; there is a 'retarded time' in physics which is a delayed time you need to account for in electrodynamics... and I'm sure it comes up in other places as well.

I then turned my attention to urbandictionary.com and went with the most popular definition:


buy retarded mugs, tshirts and magnets
An "unofficial" (not recognized by dictionaries) slang descriptor for a person/thing/action/object, etc., or a combination of, which is one or more of the following:

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There are literally a thousand different uses for the slang version of "retarded" - (Quick note Usage-wise, it came before and set the precedence of the way we use "gay" in slang today - used correctly, they're practically interchangable.

"That test was really gay!"
"Oh yeah, our chemistry teacher is being retarded."

"Mary, stop being retarded! You're so gay, grow up!"

"I thought it was a simple babysitting job, but I was wrong. Besides all the other stuff, I had to clean up after the retard, which was pretty retarded. To top it off, he set the carpet on fire, which I had to put out with the flame-retardent extinguisher. And after all of that, the parents only paid me $15. Babysitting is gay."


This is a ridiculous definition... but at the same time it confirms some suspicions I've had: we call people retarded whenever they do something that is somehow perceived as wrong or culturally unacceptable, even if it was, in actuality, a perfectly reasonable thing to do. It also seems like 'retarded' is a blanket label for people whenever they annoy you or you aren't sure how to actually describe what it is that is wrong about the thing you are insulting. For example, if you hate this blog and then reply with "this blog is just plain retarded micronesia" you are not actually explaining what is wrong with this blog and are accomplishing nothing. Still, I fully expect people to do it. This blog is retarded. There I did it first.

I'm not really a supporter of calling things/people retarded even if you legitimately have good reason to be mad at them for stupid things they've done, but it feels like the word is just thrown around so much at this point it's not even worth saying it anymore. People are too lazy... and not articulate enough to actually insult each other anymore.

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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 02 2010 18:36 GMT
#2
What a retarded post.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 18:38:17
May 02 2010 18:37 GMT
#3
On May 03 2010 03:36 SuperJongMan wrote:
What a retarded post.

Sorry but I beat you to it retard.

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I guess there are cases like these where it's fairly self-evident why I'm calling him a retard and it's actually somewhat logical even though I'm obviously being facetious
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FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
May 02 2010 18:38 GMT
#4
reminds me of


=)
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
May 02 2010 18:39 GMT
#5
On May 03 2010 03:37 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 03:36 SuperJongMan wrote:
What a retarded post.

Sorry but I beat you to it retard.

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I guess there are cases like these where it's fairly self-evident why I'm calling him a retard and it's actually somewhat logical even though I'm obviously being facetious

Maybe his post was self-referential.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 18:40 GMT
#6
FlopTurnReaver, that video has a different goal but I guess it makes a point. I'm not trying to defend mentally retarded people specifically.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 18:41 GMT
#7
On May 03 2010 03:39 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 03:37 micronesia wrote:
On May 03 2010 03:36 SuperJongMan wrote:
What a retarded post.

Sorry but I beat you to it retard.

+ Show Spoiler +
I guess there are cases like these where it's fairly self-evident why I'm calling him a retard and it's actually somewhat logical even though I'm obviously being facetious

Maybe his post was self-referential.

Hahaha good point. I haven't given any thought to the idea of people reserving retarded for when they are making fun of themselves... but it would probably bother me a lot less... in would only be a problem from the perspective of that video.
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iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
May 02 2010 18:41 GMT
#8
Is "retarded" ever used to mean what it was defined in the dictionary? I mean if we use "retarded" on a person who "delays the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.)", will they not take offense?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 02 2010 18:42 GMT
#9
this is taking being not funny to entirely new levels.

Now he is preempting future potentially funny moments and sucking the fun out of those as well.

holy shit
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 02 2010 18:42 GMT
#10
See? Bob knows.
You just don't know Micro.
You just don't know.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 02 2010 18:42 GMT
#11
I say retarded and gay quite a bit. I don't really think it's a big deal, but I am trying to say them less anyways.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 18:44:45
May 02 2010 18:43 GMT
#12
On May 03 2010 03:41 iloahz wrote:
Is "retarded" ever used to mean what it was defined in the dictionary? I mean if we use "retarded" on a person who "delays the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.)", will they not take offense?

This is a separate issue but a fair question. It's kinda wrong to call retarded people retarded but I'm not sure if that's really a good thing... dunno not going to address this one.

On May 03 2010 03:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
this is taking being not funny to entirely new levels.

Now he is preempting future potentially funny moments and sucking the fun out of those as well.

holy shit

Geoff I hope you are joking around lol
On May 03 2010 03:42 SuperJongMan wrote:
See? Bob knows.
You just don't know Micro.
You just don't know.

Takes one to know one??

On May 03 2010 03:42 travis wrote:
I say retarded and gay quite a bit. I don't really think it's a big deal, but I am trying to say them less anyways.

Yeah obviously there's a big difference between tl/irc than if you are on a job interview :p
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
May 02 2010 18:47 GMT
#13
I don't mind the use of this word ever really, it's only a problem when it's a persons only description of stupid things. Same with people that say faggot every 2 minutes.
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Leechiez
Profile Joined April 2010
United States44 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 18:52:36
May 02 2010 18:52 GMT
#14
I've ran into a handful of players saying it and the ones that do, use it to describe everything.

I'm thinking, "There are a million other adjectives to use. Pick one!"

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 18:52 GMT
#15
On May 03 2010 03:52 Leechiez wrote:
I've ran into a handful of players saying it and the ones that do use it to describe everything.

I'm thinking, "There are a million other adjectives to use. Pick one!"


High Five!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 02 2010 18:53 GMT
#16
i say retarded but I never say gay ... O_O
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
May 02 2010 18:55 GMT
#17
That's so fatchicks.

(cause nobody's going to defend that one!)
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FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
May 02 2010 18:58 GMT
#18
Wow I thought people stopped using these kinds of phrases in middle school.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 18:59 GMT
#19
On May 03 2010 03:58 FiBsTeR wrote:
Wow I thought people stopped using these kinds of phrases in middle school.

Spend a few minutes on irc and you'll find enough evidence... or just look at how many hits there are in the past few days:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=retarded&t=c&f=-1&u=&gb=date
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7886 Posts
May 02 2010 19:05 GMT
#20
Retarded is quite funny.

Hate when people say that something is "gay" though. Theses clichés about good/manly bad/gay are a bit sad. It's not even about the offeniveness, but rather than the stupidity behind it.
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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
May 02 2010 19:15 GMT
#21
i think micronesia's ultimate point is that people are so lazy these days that they can't even insult properly
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:19:08
May 02 2010 19:18 GMT
#22
find me a word i can replace retarded with and i'll gladly change
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 19:19 GMT
#23
On May 03 2010 04:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
fine me a word i can replace retarded with and i'll gladly change

It's context dependent... it's very rare that retarded is the most specific word you can use... if you are looking for a blanket term to cover any of the reasons for insulting stated in the OP then it will have the same problems as the word 'retarded' does now.
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:23:19
May 02 2010 19:22 GMT
#24
On May 03 2010 04:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
find me a word i can replace retarded with and i'll gladly change


how about "disabled"?

That's so disabled man!

(That's how we say it in German)
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:28:43
May 02 2010 19:27 GMT
#25
Calling something gay is totally legitimate. I've been calling stuff gay for a long time.

I occasionally call stuff retarded, but it's an annoying thing to say... like douchebag. It's catching on me in a bad way. I'm going to conciously attempt to use the word retard less now.

For a long time before I became de-sensitized to that word I wanted to beat the crap out of anyone who used the word douchebag...

I'm getting the same way with retarded. No offence to people from the USofA, most of you are cool people, but whenever I hear "retard" or "douchebag" I think of some ugly spotty skinny geek teen that I want to beat so bad for using these words. I'm not saying thats appropriate or even accurate I'm just saying that's the image/emotion it conjures up for me. Particularly douchebag.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 19:29 GMT
#26
Ok I read the op, it seems you just have a problem with insults in general which I think is unwarranted. The only reason I can think of to not use retarded is it's insulting to actual mentally retarded people similar to the way people use gay. People are always gonna insult, demean, express dislike, etc, it's a fundamental part of socializing. If you think people are insulting the wrong things, such as what you described, stuff that's culturally unacceptable but perfectly reasonable, then the problem isn't one of diction but of social behavior, etc.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 19:29 GMT
#27
On May 03 2010 04:22 snowbird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 04:18 zulu_nation8 wrote:
find me a word i can replace retarded with and i'll gladly change


how about "disabled"?

That's so disabled man!

(That's how we say it in German)


This sounds good i'm gonna try to introduce it into the mainstream
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
May 02 2010 19:30 GMT
#28
i only say gay, if its actually gay.
"yo dude that guy just ripped off his shit, is he thrusting is balls at me?"
"dude, thats gay."
"i can explain, im uhh, watching this for my friend. yeah."
"no dude, your gay"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 19:31 GMT
#29
On May 03 2010 04:29 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ok I read the op,

Now?
??

it seems you just have a problem with insults in general which I think is unwarranted. The only reason I can think of to not use retarded is it's insulting to actual mentally retarded people similar to the way people use gay. People are always gonna insult, demean, express dislike, etc, it's a fundamental part of socializing. If you think people are insulting the wrong things, such as what you described, stuff that's culturally unacceptable but perfectly reasonable, then the problem isn't one of diction but of social behavior, etc.

I specifically said in one of the replies (I guess you'll read those for next time??) that this is not about defending retarded people. I think you are right that this is a social behavior rather than diction thing but... what's your point? I don't have a problem with insults in general or... even if I do that's not the main point.
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:34:22
May 02 2010 19:33 GMT
#30
On May 03 2010 04:30 jodogohoo wrote:
i only say gay, if its actually gay.
"yo dude that guy just ripped off his shit, is he thrusting is balls at me?"
"dude, thats gay."
"i can explain, im uhh, watching this for my friend. yeah."
"no dude, your gay"


I reserve the term "homosexual" for this type of occasion.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 19:34 GMT
#31
Is your problem then specifically with expressing dislike for stuff that's socially disagreeable? As in just dislike in general?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 19:36 GMT
#32
On May 03 2010 04:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Is your problem then specifically with expressing dislike for stuff that's socially disagreeable? As in just dislike in general?

That's not my main point. I think it's pretty clear what I mean from this thread and shouldn't require additional explanation/defense.
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:44:34
May 02 2010 19:38 GMT
#33
It doesn't. Zulu is just a retard.
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I'm not joking
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
May 02 2010 19:40 GMT
#34
gravybrain - best insult ever.
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:44:12
May 02 2010 19:41 GMT
#35
On May 03 2010 04:29 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ok I read the op, it seems you just have a problem with insults in general which I think is unwarranted. The only reason I can think of to not use retarded is it's insulting to actual mentally retarded people similar to the way people use gay. People are always gonna insult, demean, express dislike, etc, it's a fundamental part of socializing. If you think people are insulting the wrong things, such as what you described, stuff that's culturally unacceptable but perfectly reasonable, then the problem isn't one of diction but of social behavior, etc.


Why are your repeating what he said etc but in an etc not really etc useful way? Because you don't want to stop etc using the word? Obviously you aren't going to etc because you enjoy being insulting to others etc so I don't see the point of your post etc.

What I mean is that anyone who has posted on this site for more than a few months knows that you just like to try to argue with everyone and stir up trouble as much as possible, etc, so I can't take any post you make seriously because, etc, I know that that's all you're trying to etc do.
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:46:38
May 02 2010 19:43 GMT
#36
anyways whats the problem with that, I find it pretty funny to see some dudes calling each other fucking retards, gays and so on

maybe you heard it million times and got bored of it <><
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 19:50 GMT
#37
On May 03 2010 04:41 BalloonFight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 04:29 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Ok I read the op, it seems you just have a problem with insults in general which I think is unwarranted. The only reason I can think of to not use retarded is it's insulting to actual mentally retarded people similar to the way people use gay. People are always gonna insult, demean, express dislike, etc, it's a fundamental part of socializing. If you think people are insulting the wrong things, such as what you described, stuff that's culturally unacceptable but perfectly reasonable, then the problem isn't one of diction but of social behavior, etc.


Why are your repeating what he said etc but in an etc not really etc useful way? Because you don't want to stop etc using the word? Obviously you aren't going to etc because you enjoy being insulting to others etc so I don't see the point of your post etc.

What I mean is that anyone who has posted on this site for more than a few months knows that you just like to try to argue with everyone and stir up trouble as much as possible, etc, so I can't take any post you make seriously because, etc, I know that that's all you're trying to etc do.


ok
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
May 02 2010 19:51 GMT
#38
lol... taking literal meanings to dissect pop culture slang and suggesting alternatives. Whats new? Strong English teacher vibe ITT.

Fun-sucker! Enjoy being articulate and your ability to use the dictionary while the rest of us don't! Feel happy in your superiority.

If I tell you you're a retard I'm probably not actually trying to have a conversation with you; I am dismissing you.

"That is retarded" is much simpler and it conveys a wide degree of dislike. Simplicity is key. If I call you retarded the ball is in your court, respond accordingly!

You think saying retard is retarded. You could have saved a lot of time by just posting that. We all would have received just about the same incentive to think about why it may be retarded to say retarded and contribute if our views were strong enough. Actually, I would have had more incentive because I skimmed. TL;DR.


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In summation, you aren't going to change anyone's mind by forcibly modifying pop culture via TL.net by trying to add complexity to a place where simplicity has not only been found to be much more manageable such as the internet, informal conversation, etc etc but has also been challenged by everyone from the parents of genuine retards to Holier than thou 14-year-old females which means most people will probably associate this blog to the fun-sucking speeches of the previously mentioned groups. Without a good approach you will just be lumped together with them. This leads me to believe that there isn't a forcible approach because we have already been inoculated and remain unchanged in our speech patterns. Surely TL.net is not the place to begin your retard revolution even if you had a magical approach that did not cause me to think of you as a 14 year old girl\English teacher\mother of a retard, TL.net is likely not the place to start your retard revolution. That said, these are just personal grievances with your blog. Be aware that many people lack the mental capacity or do not have readily available sources to back up their arguments but still want to express their displeasure. These people are your audience and you aren't entitled to pick and choose who expresses their feelings in a simplified form and which take a more lengthy approach. If you want to further investigate the root of these emotions\feelings than feel free to press them. However, understand that they have a decent idea going for them because starting out long-winded is a sure fire way to turn people off.

Recognition of the blog zone as a free for all for posting whatever you want to is a deciding factor on my approval of a blog's legal position. While it is perfectly fine for you to post this, I disagree on just about everything.

Alternatively, I could have said:

this blog was retarded! Then I could have went and got myself an aspirin for my caffeine withdrawal headache and moved on with life instead of typing a giant paragraph.

Simple simple!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 19:51 GMT
#39
On May 03 2010 04:43 UFO wrote:
anyways whats the problem with that, I find it pretty funny to see some dudes calling each other fucking retards, gays and so on

maybe you heard it million times and got bored of it <><

I can't speak for you but I don't find it funny.... and most people don't either... in fact you are pretty strange for finding this funny. Hearing it a million times doesn't help though.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 19:53 GMT
#40
On May 03 2010 04:36 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 04:34 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Is your problem then specifically with expressing dislike for stuff that's socially disagreeable? As in just dislike in general?

That's not my main point. I think it's pretty clear what I mean from this thread and shouldn't require additional explanation/defense.


Ok sorry I read the blog for real this time, yea I guess I agree with people being too lazy to articulate what it is they are annoyed with. But I think on the other hand, "retarded" or "gay" has a sting to them that other more specific adjectives do not.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 19:54:53
May 02 2010 19:54 GMT
#41
On May 03 2010 04:51 Romantic wrote:
lol... taking literal meanings to dissect pop culture slang and suggesting alternatives. Whats new? Strong English teacher vibe ITT.

Fun-sucker! Enjoy being articulate and your ability to use the dictionary while the rest of us don't! Feel happy in your superiority.

If I tell you you're a retard I'm probably not actually trying to have a conversation with you; I am dismissing you.

"That is retarded" is much simpler and it conveys a wide degree of dislike. Simplicity is key. If I call you retarded the ball is in your court, respond accordingly!

You think saying retard is retarded. You could have saved a lot of time by just posting that. We all would have received just about the same incentive to think about why it may be retarded to say retarded and contribute if our views were strong enough. Actually, I would have had more incentive because I skimmed. TL;DR.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


In summation, you aren't going to change anyone's mind by forcibly modifying pop culture via TL.net by trying to add complexity to a place where simplicity has not only been found to be much more manageable such as the internet, informal conversation, etc etc but has also been challenged by everyone from the parents of genuine retards to Holier than thou 14-year-old females which means most people will probably associate this blog to the fun-sucking speeches of the previously mentioned groups. Without a good approach you will just be lumped together with them. This leads me to believe that there isn't a forcible approach because we have already been inoculated and remain unchanged in our speech patterns. Surely TL.net is not the place to begin your retard revolution even if you had a magical approach that did not cause me to think of you as a 14 year old girl\English teacher\mother of a retard, TL.net is likely not the place to start your retard revolution. That said, these are just personal grievances with your blog. Be aware that many people lack the mental capacity or do not have readily available sources to back up their arguments but still want to express their displeasure. These people are your audience and you aren't entitled to pick and choose who expresses their feelings in a simplified form and which take a more lengthy approach. If you want to further investigate the root of these emotions\feelings than feel free to press them. However, understand that they have a decent idea going for them because starting out long-winded is a sure fire way to turn people off.

Recognition of the blog zone as a free for all for posting whatever you want to is a deciding factor on my approval of a blog's legal position. While it is perfectly fine for you to post this, I disagree on just about everything.

Alternatively, I could have said:

this blog was retarded! Then I could have went and got myself an aspirin for my caffeine withdrawal headache and moved on with life instead of typing a giant paragraph.

Simple simple!

I don't think skimming my post was a very good idea since you seem to have completely missed the point. Most of the things you seem to disagree with me on are things I didn't say and don't believe.

edit: btw instead of making a ------------- for a line you can use
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
May 02 2010 20:04 GMT
#42
But in all honesty, I usually just say lame. I play CS on a family friendly server, so I'm used to dulling down my language a lot lol. Lame seems like a very good word to me, doesn't really seem too, well, lame to say.
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Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
May 02 2010 20:07 GMT
#43
I was being dismissing of your attempts. Can't choose your audience! Peace out!

But seriously, those are my points in defense of retarded whether or not you are contentious of them.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7886 Posts
May 02 2010 20:30 GMT
#44
On May 03 2010 04:27 Reason wrote:
Calling something gay is totally legitimate. I've been calling stuff gay for a long time.

lol wtf?

And calling someone Jew, or Nigger is it legitimate?
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Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
May 02 2010 20:31 GMT
#45
Nigger please.
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nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
May 02 2010 21:14 GMT
#46
On May 03 2010 05:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 04:27 Reason wrote:
Calling something gay is totally legitimate. I've been calling stuff gay for a long time.

lol wtf?

And calling someone Jew, or Nigger is it legitimate?


whats wrong with jew
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 21:26:23
May 02 2010 21:25 GMT
#47
jew/gay/retarded all have their "appropriate" and opportune moments when saying it at pinpoint timing and with proper delivery will lead to much oomph and lawlz
as long as there isn't an overly PC person to ruin the fun, there is no harm done and much fun was had
btw i am full supporter of gay rights, but i know when to distinguish between irreplaceable catchphrases (seriously, "that's so/hella gay" cannot be replaced with anything with equal effect) and actual serious social issues
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 21:26:52
May 02 2010 21:25 GMT
#48
On May 03 2010 06:14 nK)Duke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 05:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 03 2010 04:27 Reason wrote:
Calling something gay is totally legitimate. I've been calling stuff gay for a long time.

lol wtf?

And calling someone Jew, or Nigger is it legitimate?


whats wrong with jew

Saying "The temple was filled with dozens of jews eager to celebrate the holiday" should be fine.

Saying "the clerk tried to jew me out of more money" is generally considered bad.

On May 03 2010 06:25 phosphorylation wrote:
jew/gay/retarded all have their "appropriate" moments when saying it at pinpoint timing and with proper delivery will lead to much oomph and lawlz
as long as there isn't an overly PC person to ruin the fun, there is no harm done and much fun was had
btw i am full supporter of gay rights, but i know when to distinguish between irreplaceable catchphrases (seriously, "that's so/hella gay" cannot be replaced with anything with equal effect) and actual serious social issues

I've purposefully avoided the topic of being insensitive to others such as gays or jews in this blog but I do want to point out (and you probably know) that there are counter-arguments which I won't try to defend.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 02 2010 21:27 GMT
#49
On May 03 2010 06:25 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 06:14 nK)Duke wrote:
On May 03 2010 05:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 03 2010 04:27 Reason wrote:
Calling something gay is totally legitimate. I've been calling stuff gay for a long time.

lol wtf?

And calling someone Jew, or Nigger is it legitimate?


whats wrong with jew

Saying "The temple was filled with dozens of jews eager to celebrate the holiday" should be fine.

Saying "the clerk tried to jew me out of more money" is generally considered bad.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 06:25 phosphorylation wrote:
jew/gay/retarded all have their "appropriate" moments when saying it at pinpoint timing and with proper delivery will lead to much oomph and lawlz
as long as there isn't an overly PC person to ruin the fun, there is no harm done and much fun was had
btw i am full supporter of gay rights, but i know when to distinguish between irreplaceable catchphrases (seriously, "that's so/hella gay" cannot be replaced with anything with equal effect) and actual serious social issues

I've purposefully avoided the topic of being insensitive to others such as gays or jews in this blog but I do want to point out (and you probably know) that there are counter-arguments which I won't try to defend.


except the second one is potentially very hilarious
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
May 02 2010 21:44 GMT
#50
On May 03 2010 06:27 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 06:25 micronesia wrote:
On May 03 2010 06:14 nK)Duke wrote:
On May 03 2010 05:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 03 2010 04:27 Reason wrote:
Calling something gay is totally legitimate. I've been calling stuff gay for a long time.

lol wtf?

And calling someone Jew, or Nigger is it legitimate?


whats wrong with jew

Saying "The temple was filled with dozens of jews eager to celebrate the holiday" should be fine.

Saying "the clerk tried to jew me out of more money" is generally considered bad.

On May 03 2010 06:25 phosphorylation wrote:
jew/gay/retarded all have their "appropriate" moments when saying it at pinpoint timing and with proper delivery will lead to much oomph and lawlz
as long as there isn't an overly PC person to ruin the fun, there is no harm done and much fun was had
btw i am full supporter of gay rights, but i know when to distinguish between irreplaceable catchphrases (seriously, "that's so/hella gay" cannot be replaced with anything with equal effect) and actual serious social issues

I've purposefully avoided the topic of being insensitive to others such as gays or jews in this blog but I do want to point out (and you probably know) that there are counter-arguments which I won't try to defend.


except the second one is potentially very hilarious

Every insensitive insult can be hilarious to some people... and some people argue that this doesn't justify their use. I'm on the fence about what I think we should preach but I also limit what I do just in case.
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sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
May 02 2010 22:09 GMT
#51
On May 03 2010 04:05 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Retarded is quite funny.

Hate when people say that something is "gay" though. Theses clichés about good/manly bad/gay are a bit sad. It's not even about the offeniveness, but rather than the stupidity behind it.


I'm the opposite.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 02 2010 22:16 GMT
#52
On May 03 2010 06:44 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 06:27 phosphorylation wrote:
On May 03 2010 06:25 micronesia wrote:
On May 03 2010 06:14 nK)Duke wrote:
On May 03 2010 05:30 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 03 2010 04:27 Reason wrote:
Calling something gay is totally legitimate. I've been calling stuff gay for a long time.

lol wtf?

And calling someone Jew, or Nigger is it legitimate?


whats wrong with jew

Saying "The temple was filled with dozens of jews eager to celebrate the holiday" should be fine.

Saying "the clerk tried to jew me out of more money" is generally considered bad.

On May 03 2010 06:25 phosphorylation wrote:
jew/gay/retarded all have their "appropriate" moments when saying it at pinpoint timing and with proper delivery will lead to much oomph and lawlz
as long as there isn't an overly PC person to ruin the fun, there is no harm done and much fun was had
btw i am full supporter of gay rights, but i know when to distinguish between irreplaceable catchphrases (seriously, "that's so/hella gay" cannot be replaced with anything with equal effect) and actual serious social issues

I've purposefully avoided the topic of being insensitive to others such as gays or jews in this blog but I do want to point out (and you probably know) that there are counter-arguments which I won't try to defend.


except the second one is potentially very hilarious

Every insensitive insult can be hilarious to some people... and some people argue that this doesn't justify their use. I'm on the fence about what I think we should preach but I also limit what I do just in case.


surely
but i object to the fact that you conclude it is an insensitive insult
if nobody who hears it is offended (i obvoiusly would not make a jew joke in front of holocaust survivors), then it is NOT insensitive.. it is arguably crude
but being crude is often fun
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 22:22:56
May 02 2010 22:21 GMT
#53
I am contacting Sarah Palin

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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 03 2010 01:37 GMT
#54
Can I say whoever created the abomination of MLA format standards is "gay"?

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