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(wasn't sure which forum it belonged in or if it even belonged in a forum at all so I'm blogging it for now)
Starcraft 2’s beta is going strong and with many fun tournaments, events, and streams we have seen that the Starcraft community is huge and strong. That being said, I want to try and bring some good.
I am doing a 24-hour streamed Starcraft 2 marathon from Midnight EST on April 24th, to Midnight on April 25th to raise money for Amnesty International, a NGO dedicated to protecting human rights around the world. The event will be myself streaming mostly 1v1 ladder games for a full 24 hours breaking only for food and washrooms etc. I am also going to get a few notable people to show up and talk to the audience, maybe even play a few games for the good people and generally put on a fun show. I have no confirmations yet, but a handful of prominent people have said they would be willing to come out.
When they aren’t on, I will be playing and talking to the audience, and generally having a good time.
I will have a chat with Amnesty tomorrow regarding setting up a chip-in, but for now you can still donate here.
If you are at all interested in helping out with the show by entertaining, moderating the chat room, sitting in to give me a second voice to talk with between guests shoot me an email at elitistpodcast@gmail.com or PM me on Team Liquid.
Let’s do some good.
 
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Calgary25977 Posts
I'm not really seeing how this raises money. Good luck though. It also probably would have been better to do the stuff you're planning on doing first, instead of making a post saying you're planning on doing it.
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I guess the word plan was a bad choice. The date is set and there are a lot of people interested in doing it, I'm just not comfortable confirming anyone until we get closer to the day of and they can tell me 100% whether or not they can make it.
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On April 14 2010 01:26 Chill wrote:
I'm not really seeing how this raises money. Good luck though. It also probably would have been better to do the stuff you're planning on doing first, instead of making a post saying you're planning on doing it.
It raises awareness about the organization. How does any charity event raise money?
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By planning on doing it I meant that barring a fatal heart attack or something unforseen it will happen. The indecicive sounding language is just because I'm a science undergrad IRL and you can't say thing are definite in that realm. >_>
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Maybe Chill means to say what part of some fat dude playing video games alone in his room is supposed to inspire people to donate to charity
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cool, next time you try to do something nice let me know.
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Calgary25977 Posts
On April 14 2010 02:09 TheElitists wrote:
cool, next time you try to do something nice I'll try to shit all over it too.
Dude, there is a fucking huge disconnect between doing something nice and doing what you always do.
This is "me playing video games like I always do but now it's for charity." Explain to me how that works.
Edit: To be clear, charity drives work by either raising awareness or showing people examples of leadership that they should emulate.
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plus amnesty international is a shitty organization =(. toooo political. by investing your charitable efforts in them you're restricting the contributors you bring in to leftists and the ignorant.
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8748 Posts
This isn't raising awareness? It's like a cyclist who cycles across a continent to raise awareness. Yeah, you know he cycles all the time anyway. But he's doing it in a special way (across the continent, or in this case, gaming for 24 hours straight) and he's getting coverage.
I think it just loses its appeal and doesn't seem as special because we have people constantly streaming shit anyway.
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I think delivering substantial "content" onto the table first before offering people the option to donate would be more feasible (take the Day[9] Daily as an example of substantial content).
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well there's going to be much more than just me playing games, if anything that's just something to do if nothing else is available at the moment which will likely happen in a course of 24 hours but there's more.
I have gotten some interesting interviews done over the last few months of some prominent people in the community and I'm going to try and get some great interviews to entertain the viewers during the event. I have also worked out some time with a bunch of Team EG members who are going to get us to obs some matches against some of the US's best SC2 players. There's personalities like Diggity and Day[9] that have said they'd be interested in coming on at some point to help out. Other commentators like Rise and Husky have said they are going to see if they can come out for the event and I still have people to message. Also someone from Amnesty may be coming on to talk about the organization as well.
I'm actually hoping that over the 24 hour show we will have much more than just my fail starcraft playing.
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Everyone does what they can. I am not big on charities but at least you are trying to do something with SC2. Good luck and hope your event goes well.
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Just a suggestion. Try doing something unique that would appeal the general audience. That way, you would have more chances on receiving donations. Everyone's been doing interviews, livestreams, commentaries, etc. already.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On April 14 2010 01:33 TheElitists wrote:
I guess the word plan was a bad choice. The date is set and there are a lot of people interested in doing it, I'm just not comfortable confirming anyone until we get closer to the day of and they can tell me 100% whether or not they can make it.
I think you could've at least waited until you confirmed the charity and obtained their approval and support. While I'm sure charities welcome your efforts and any donations, I would assume they would prefer the opportunity to research about things before you attach their names to it.
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Canada9720 Posts
it's nice that you want people to donate to amnesty international. but your approach is a little silly. you may as well just have written a blog with the text "hey guys, amnesty international is cool. you should donate to it".
like floor plan said, you sitting around "doing stuff", enacting some vague plan of maybe playing sc2 for a day straight and maybe interviewing a few people is just... well it's kinda stupid.
your heart's in the right place, tho, bud.
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how are u going to be making money streaming for 24 hrs?
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If this is something he feels good about doing then whats wrong with it, sure he could've used more of his time to plan an even greater event but hey, isn't this far better than just doing the 24h burst for himself? Its comparable to charity concerts where the people are encouraged to donate while listening/watching, in a bit smaller scale.
Good luck
edit: Just an idea, but if there's some hardcore mass gamer you could do a very special marathon for charity by playing until a certain amount of money has been donated. It'd be awesome in quite a few ways. =)
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to be honest i'm stunned at the replies in this thread. especially from everyone downplaying the guy's effort. tbh none of the common ways to raise $$ for charities make sense if you think about it. how is walking for charity any different than this? "i'm walking like i always do but now it's for charity". it still raises awareness so it can't hurt. hell, i've never heard of amnesty intl before this, so we're already moving forward. pop in a little special icon & title, say "Hour 4 of 24 -- SC2 Amnesty Stream" people will read it and go "whoa why is this guy streaming for 24hrs straight" click & learn about amnesty intl and maybe even donate.
good luck man =)
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On April 14 2010 03:57 Puosu wrote:
If this is something he feels good about doing then whats wrong with it, sure he could've used more of his time to plan an even greater event but hey, isn't this far better than just doing the 24h burst for himself? Its comparable to charity concerts where the people are encouraged to donate while listening/watching, in a bit smaller scale.
Good luck
edit: Just an idea, but if there's some hardcore mass gamer you could do a very special marathon for charity by playing until a certain amount of money has been donated. It'd be awesome in quite a few ways. =)
Nothing wrong with it, it's just likely to generate an equal proportion of donations to the amount of effort put in/required to hold such an event.
Maybe the world would be a slightly better place if we all occasionally raised an approximate $30-65 for our 24 hour gaming sessions for the red cross. But it would be significantly better if we all took the time to participate in the countless "walk for thingthatkillsyou" events, but walking is like, tiring.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
guy has an idea to raise awareness/make a few bucks for a charity.
TL shits on his method.
???
Who cares if there are more effective ways to do this. THis is the way HE is doing it. If it raises 1 dollar that is more than what it would have raised had NOBODY done this. I can't believe the continual posting from a bunch of TL vets/regulars/mods in here about how bad his method was. Let someone do something nice for once even if it doesn't seem like it will change the world.
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Hm, have nothing more to add to what inc said. If he raises any money it's a plus. So, let him do it they way he chooses to do it.
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Canada9720 Posts
you guys are right, awareness levels are pretty low.
maybe you guys can sit on your asses for a days and raise the awareness awareness, so that people are more aware and receptive to awareness-raising attempts
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Calgary25977 Posts
On April 14 2010 04:04 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
guy has an idea to raise awareness/make a few bucks for a charity.
TL shits on his method.
???
Who cares if there are more effective ways to do this. THis is the way HE is doing it. If it raises 1 dollar that is more than what it would have raised had NOBODY done this. I can't believe the continual posting from a bunch of TL vets/regulars/mods in here about how bad his method was. Let someone do something nice for once even if it doesn't seem like it will change the world.
Yes, live and let live is great in theory; however there are several problems with your thinking:
1. TL in general only has a certain attention span. If several topics are opened that are decidedly low in quality are to remain open, then the average overall quality drops. This means high quality threads get less attention. It also cultivates a culture of low quality being acceptable, meaning this problem quickly compounds.
2. Giving is great, but there's only a certain tolerance for this. Clearly you can see that - If every SC2 stream suddenly had a "Donate Here" ad on it, there would be zero effectiveness after awhile. If someone chooses to draw from our community's generosity, they had better maximize it to make it worthwhile or else they are squandering opportunity. This should be inherently obvious.
3. It's moderators' jobs here to to draw the line between what is acceptable and not. That includes offering suggestions and criticisms to mold the forum in the direction they see fit. If you believe in some form of free-reign forum with zero moderation I suppose that something you can campaign for, but there's no reason to be shocked that we are doing our jobs.
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I'm always skeptical of these things because they come off as attention grabs more than being prompted by some philanthropic urge by the host of the event, simply because there really are such better ways to gather charitable donations if you actually believed in a cause. Yeah sure every little bit helps, but if you were like "wow I really believe in this cause" you would get off your ass.
My skepticism is compounded when the person hosting it runs a podcast (which ironically has an interview from Inc on its page that I just checked out) this just sort of confirms my belief that the motives are far from altruistic, and in fact kind of shady since he has such a vested interest in garnering attention for his own site and he's essentially using "charity!!!!!" as a method.
Is he putting anything in? Is he matching the donations from the crowd? Because it looks to me like an attention grab from behind the shield of charity and there's really no investment from him except his time going into doing something he was already very likely to be doing of an evening.
So yeah I do take issue with the hypocrisy of blatantly using a charity for your own ends such as to gain hits for your website
By the way I officially declare that I am posting for charity so you can't respond and disagree with the things I say. Well you can but your keyboard will forever be stained with the blood of starving children
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
at the end of the day.. im ok with him trying to do something nice. Despite chill's defense that TL is comprised of short attention span retards that apparently are losing out on threads like girl troubles or FB debates.
But yeah, you get em chill! I hope that bitch is sorry for ever trying to do too little!
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It's a fucking blog. He was saying he is going to do this thing and asking if anyone wants to help while he gets the details sorted out. How can he get anyone signed on to help him if he doesn't ask around first?
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On April 14 2010 03:04 pachi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 01:33 TheElitists wrote:
I guess the word plan was a bad choice. The date is set and there are a lot of people interested in doing it, I'm just not comfortable confirming anyone until we get closer to the day of and they can tell me 100% whether or not they can make it. I think you could've at least waited until you confirmed the charity and obtained their approval and support. While I'm sure charities welcome your efforts and any donations, I would assume they would prefer the opportunity to research about things before you attach their names to it.
They have no problem with it, the discussion is over setting up a chipin so that we can find out how much we've raised.
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While I agree with all of Chill's points, I think floor exercise articulated #2 better. The real problem is that this thread exists to increase interest for an event that seems like a facade.
Edit: Actually, I think the OP needs more details. Is this happening on your TL live user stream? If that's the case, it's not so bad to post about it, however it should be in your user stream thread rather than a separate blog.
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Sounds like a good cause.
If you're interested, I wouldn't mind playing a bo3 or something and donating $10 per game. Or something dunno ^^ just an idea.
Otherwise if I happen to catch you're stream I will donate a small amount if you do something to earn it, whether it be some sweet micro, a funny joke, or something :p Charity is cool, but its gotta at least be a little fun 
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On April 14 2010 06:25 Pawsom wrote:Sounds like a good cause. If you're interested, I wouldn't mind playing a bo3 or something and donating $10 per game. Or something dunno ^^ just an idea. Otherwise if I happen to catch you're stream I will donate a small amount if you do something to earn it, whether it be some sweet micro, a funny joke, or something :p Charity is cool, but its gotta at least be a little fun
I will accept being a dancing monkey in the context of this event.
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why is everyone hating on this guy for no reason?
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On April 14 2010 07:55 Rice wrote:
why is everyone hating on this guy for no reason?
because chill did and chill's totally awsm
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Alright, I usually try to keep my disagreements mostly to myself but this is just depressing guys.
I can tell you FROM EXPERIENCE that doing a special livestream event RAISES MONEY. Are you guys familiar with the speed running community? They do this shit ALL the time and raise really good money for charities.
How does it raise money? You uh, say 'I'm doing this for a charity, if you guys want to help please donate, if not, enjoy the show .'
On top of that he said he is going to try and get people from the community to do special matches. Is that something you see 'all the time'? No.
People are allowed to post constant 'HOT AZN BLOG 15.. [NSFW]' blogs and no one cares, and when someone does something nice its like the worst thing that could ever happen to the Team Liquid ***BLOG*** section.
Give me a break.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Asking for money from the community should require a level of professionalism. I'm not his friend, I'm his potential audience that he's asking money from.
Professional
Mark this date. 24 hour Charity event on XX raising donations for YY. I'm xxxxx.and yyyy deserve your money for. There will be special guests.
Awkward appeal for money
Hey guys, i guess i'll blog this. gonna to raise money for YYY. i'm going to be laddering and streaming. talked to some people, and they said they are interested.
There is hate because there is legitimate charity work out there that deserve support. Their events are well planned and professional, thus the work they do inspires their audience to have confidence in them and the charity they represent.
If you want to seem legitimate, you have to present yourself legitimately.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Yeah I agree. Until he makes a colorful and pretty looking OP with concise information regarding EXACT information on where my 5$ is going I will hate on him and mock him while I continue to regularly support that better organized charity that I've been supporting for so long.
Fucking idiot can't even make a good OP, the audacity!
also if we didn't mock/hate on him TL would be overran by bad threads asking for money for charities. That would be terrible. Fortunately we have Chill and other vets here to put these a-holes in their place and make sure future charitable bitches steer clear unless they plan on fulfilling the arbitrary OP requirements the ethereal TL moderation of that day has decided is adequate!
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I was actually planning on making a really nice OP tomorrow, just not sure where I should post it lest I get the thread closed. I want to put it in the SC2 forums
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