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NEW Justin.tv iPhone App!

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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 11:29:19
March 28 2010 11:27 GMT
#1
It's awesome! Could watch the EG games last night on the subway and it was sweet.

Come on now LIVESTREAM.COM! I want an identical iPhone app so i can watch Day9 on my way to class, not to mention re-streamed proleague games live!

Also, Jtv has nice quality when the picture is still, but doesn't handle movement very well, gets very pixelated.

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Cheeseball
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia208 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 11:51:24
March 28 2010 11:50 GMT
#2
Watching StarCraft during lectures. Holy shit that would be amazing.

On second thought, you could do that on a laptop anyway. Just never considered it.
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
March 28 2010 12:08 GMT
#3
On March 28 2010 20:27 Thrill wrote:
It's awesome! Could watch the EG games last night on the subway and it was sweet.

Come on now LIVESTREAM.COM! I want an identical iPhone app so i can watch Day9 on my way to class, not to mention re-streamed proleague games live!

Also, Jtv has nice quality when the picture is still, but doesn't handle movement very well, gets very pixelated.


actually they do have.. but the streamer must select the option for streaming to iphone..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 28 2010 12:31 GMT
#4
On March 28 2010 21:08 kaleidoscope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2010 20:27 Thrill wrote:
It's awesome! Could watch the EG games last night on the subway and it was sweet.

Come on now LIVESTREAM.COM! I want an identical iPhone app so i can watch Day9 on my way to class, not to mention re-streamed proleague games live!

Also, Jtv has nice quality when the picture is still, but doesn't handle movement very well, gets very pixelated.


actually they do have.. but the streamer must select the option for streaming to iphone..


Yeah, it's a very outdated list of streams and not an app, just a mobile interface on their homepage. We really need an app!
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
March 28 2010 16:45 GMT
#5
Damn! Won't livestream not wok because it it Flash-based and iphones do not run flash (Macs have problems with it but they can run flash, haha). So they would have to change their entire setup to the new type of videos to send them to iPhones
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 28 2010 19:30 GMT
#6
On March 29 2010 01:45 Jlab wrote:
Damn! Won't livestream not wok because it it Flash-based and iphones do not run flash (Macs have problems with it but they can run flash, haha). So they would have to change their entire setup to the new type of videos to send them to iPhones


Well, as mentioned earlier - livestream is already available on iPhone but the streamer has to go through some hoops and the watcher needs to go through Safari. I don't think an app is far away though :>
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
March 29 2010 02:02 GMT
#7
On March 29 2010 01:45 Jlab wrote:
Damn! Won't livestream not wok because it it Flash-based and iphones do not run flash (Macs have problems with it but they can run flash, haha). So they would have to change their entire setup to the new type of videos to send them to iPhones


Not necessarily.

The problem is not the video format used by the stream, but that Flash is used to deliver the video.

The iPhone's native video format is H.264, which is becoming increasingly popular. See Youtube HD and Vimeo. The problem is that until recently, Flash was the only good enough option to deliver the content on multiple platforms. This is changing as more platforms support H.264 and video web sites like Youtube are experimenting with HTML5 video to deliver the content.

In the case of the iPhone, what apps are doing is stream the H.264 video without requiring Flash to play it. What for? The iPhone already supports the format without third party software. Same for Mac OSX and Windows 7. So its not like Livestream needs to support a video format specifically for the iPhone.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 29 2010 19:31 GMT
#8
Is it hard to enable playback on iPhones as a livestreamer btw? Would be pretty sweet if people started doing it unless there's some major obstacle!
Zevee
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden15 Posts
October 03 2011 19:08 GMT
#9
Since this is the only iphone app thread about justin.tv, I bump it.

Does anyone know if twitch.tv is connected to the justin.tv app?
Im a Idra fanboy
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
October 03 2011 19:25 GMT
#10
Twitch.tv is justin.tv.

So yes. Actually contrary to popular belief, there are no ads at all while watching streams via the justin.tv app. (There used to have super obnoxious ones but thankfully they got rid of them) There's only a small popup on the stream selection page.

However it does have many limitations, such as no vod support, and you can't manually select your resolution (instead it auto-adjusts depending upon your bandwidth). Because you don't see any ads, I'm not sure if streamers receive any revenue from views, which if true kinda sucks.

Hopefully all that will change soon: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/kyay0/i_love_justintv_but_they_have_really_dropped_the/
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
October 03 2011 19:26 GMT
#11
On October 04 2011 04:08 Zevee wrote:
Since this is the only iphone app thread about justin.tv, I bump it.

Does anyone know if twitch.tv is connected to the justin.tv app?


I watch twitch.tv streams on there all the time and I just tuned into TLO and it works just fine.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 14 2011 20:39 GMT
#12
Wow, seeing this bumped was a bit confusing. Especially reading the original blog and the reference to Livestream.com

Currently all major streaming services have their own app except Own3d.tv which instead relies on html5 straight in the browser (no mobile version of the website).

Sadly this no-app approach is currently the best one. MLG did the same for their most recent events, so did Gametrailers for their E3 coverage.

My gripes with the JTV app as opposed to simply pressing 'play' in your browser:

1. You don't see clock/battery life when you tap the screen. Might seem trivial but it's annoying quite often.
2. Crashes - there are lots of them, far from as many on html5.
3. Buffering issues - seriously! Doesn't matter how good your connection is.
4. No play/pause/rewind interface (at least not satisfactory). Being able to delay the stream a bit and build buffer is a great thing until the world is fully covered by a 3G grid.
5. Weird loading issues forcing restarts - categories often an empty menu.
6. Absurd delay - delay that regardless of connection is more than 30s makes chat pretty much pointless.
7. No vods.
8. No possibility of rotating screen (this is probably the most annoying in some situations and so stupid).

At this point JTV need to overhaul the app entirely or make their live video html5 and vods h.264.
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