EPT5750 rapes the GTS250.
The GTS250 is just a rebranded 9800GTX, which is just a rebranded 8800GTX.
Stay away from Nvidia until Fermi drops in prices, which should be in 10-12 months or so.
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WheelOfTime
Canada331 Posts
5750 rapes the GTS250. The GTS250 is just a rebranded 9800GTX, which is just a rebranded 8800GTX. Stay away from Nvidia until Fermi drops in prices, which should be in 10-12 months or so. | ||
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FragKrag
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? Granted these are at release and Catalyst must have improved performance, the 5750 is far from convincing when you look at its price. Not sure if it still applies, but nvidia cards used to like nvidia boards more, so his chipset also needs to be taken in for consideration. | ||
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Redshirt
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The most important thing with choosing graphics cards is the resolution you're going to playing at. If you're going to run stuff at 1600xwhatever resolution or lower, a 4850 should run most things pretty fine. If you're going to 1900xwhatever, you're going to need a 5770 at least. Starcraft 2 right now is obviously going to be inefficient right now since its only in Beta. I have no doubt that they'll streamline the software so I don't think you actually need really, really powerful computer hardware to play the retail version of Starcraft 2. To answer KingKRule, AMD is churning out video cards after video cards because they know they're ass raping nVidia right now and going to milk the market while they have the chance. Heck if the rumors about Fermi's performance is true (slightly better than the 5870 but needs way, way more power and is massive as fuck), the ATI cards are still going to be bloated in price since they STILL don't have any real competition from other companies. | ||
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FragKrag
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Redshirt
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FragKrag
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I wonder why didn't bench the 4850 against the 5750 though. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14910 Posts
On March 08 2010 15:20 Redshirt wrote: To answer KingKRule, AMD is churning out video cards after video cards because they know they're ass raping nVidia right now and going to milk the market while they have the chance. Heck if the rumors about Fermi's performance is true (slightly better than the 5870 but needs way, way more power and is massive as fuck), the ATI cards are still going to be bloated in price since they STILL don't have any real competition from other companies. this is a huge fear for me well maybe not fear, it'll just annoy the hell out of me | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17953/34/ Though as fudzilla says, the benches are synthetic so I'm not sure what to expect. We'll learn on March 26th! In this 5970 video You can see the 5970 hits around 35 FPS at the Dragon part whereas the GTX 480 hits around 40. Now it's pretty obvious that Nvidia's GTX 480 is a lot better than ATi cards at rendering stressful parts, and is more efficient. On those grassy parts, the 5970 hits 110 FPS where the GTX 480 gets around 80. | ||
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yooniball
United States21 Posts
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2336251,00.asp http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18037&page=7 If you compare the new 5000 series ATI cards against the 200 gtx series cards, that is just outlandish. It is unfair to compare the two in terms of graphics. Also, ATI churns out cards like no other and I applaud them for that but the quality behind the graphics cards is always behind Nvidia. They take longer to make their products because their products are higher quality. Just wait until the new line of Nvidia cards are out. Like the last series, it will most likely be better than the ATi. You can't say they are "ass-raping" the competition when the competition hasn't even begun to compete against them. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
Of course the 4xx cards will be better than ATi 5000 series. They must be better than what ATi is offering us if Nvidia has waited 5 months to even give us a fucking preview (which is actually very impressive imho). While those comparisons were valid back when they were released, they aren't quite as valid now because ATi has improved on its driver division with Catalyst 10.1 and 10.2. Now what we see is a $160 ATi HD 4870 outpowering that $200 Nvidia GTX 260. | ||
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semantics
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FragKrag
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Nub4ever
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FragKrag
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It used to be that a GTX was the highest performer, followed by the GTS, followed by the GT if a card (like the 9800) had different versions. | ||
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Redshirt
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On March 09 2010 10:12 yooniball wrote: I don't understand where everyone gets the notion that ATI destroys NVIDIA in terms of graphics. The 200 GTX series graphics cards were much more popular than the ATI 4000 series and performed much better in benchmarks. Here are some solid facts: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2336251,00.asp http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18037&page=7 If you compare the new 5000 series ATI cards against the 200 gtx series cards, that is just outlandish. It is unfair to compare the two in terms of graphics. Also, ATI churns out cards like no other and I applaud them for that but the quality behind the graphics cards is always behind Nvidia. They take longer to make their products because their products are higher quality. Just wait until the new line of Nvidia cards are out. Like the last series, it will most likely be better than the ATi. You can't say they are "ass-raping" the competition when the competition hasn't even begun to compete against them. For a while, nothing from nVidia even competes with ATI's 5000 series lineup in literally all important areas (energy efficiency, heat generated, graphical power, size, DirectX11, etc) save for perhaps compatibility (ATI 5000 series seems to hate Gigabyte motherboards for whatever reason) and driver quality (drivers from both companies suck balls though just nVidia's releases tend to suck a little less). The majority of people aren't neckbeards with water cooled systems, 1000w power supplies to work their SLI/Crossfire setups, and the desire to get 200 FPS in Crysis. Most people want a product that is not only extremely solid but cheap and ATI's current lineup is exactly that. Whether or not Fermi will even compete with the HD5850 or HD5870 depends not on its performance but on its price and I really, really, really doubt Fermi will come cheap. | ||
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yooniball
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KOFgokuon
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FragKrag
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On March 09 2010 14:57 yooniball wrote: To compare the ATI 5000 series graphics cards to the NVIDIA 200 graphics cards doesn't make any sense. When the new 400 series Nvidia graphics cards come out, then compare the two. And then see the difference between the companies. You guys are well aware that ATI only had Q4 of 2009 and Q1 of 2010 while Nvidia dominated Q1,Q2, and Q3 of 2009. Just wait until Nvidia releases its Fermi cards. And compare the 5000 ATI cards and the Fermi Nvidia. You don't know how the market works. We can't compare what isn't on the fucking market. You compare the companies by what they have released, not what they are capable of producing based on what they announce! It doesn't make sense to wait to compare the 5000 series when they are the best cards on the market at the moment! The ATi 4870/4890/4870x2 line was gaining on Nvidia by Q2/Q3, and there was a HUGE boost in ATi users. That said, I'm pretty excited for the GTX 4xx series  | ||
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yooniball
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FragKrag
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4870 > GTX 260 4870X2 ~ GTX 285 4890 ~ GTX 275 They were very competitive. ATi is currently moving towards a new platform as Nvidia did with the 4xx series. | ||
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