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I was considering putting this in the SC2 forums as it mostly has to do with that but it also applies to other things so I considered putting it here.
My specs:
CPU TYPE:AMD PHENOM(TM) 9550 QUAD-CORE (2.2 GHz)
RAM: 5 GIGABYTES
GPU:NVIDIA GEFORCE 9300
RESOLUTION: 1680X1050
HARD DISK: 750 GIGABYTES
So basically my GPU is driving me crazy. Everything is pretty good if you ask me except it. In SC2 everything's on Ultimate/Extreme except Shader which I have to have on Low or else whenever I try to scroll around I just lag horribly, other than that I don't lag at all. All my drivers and stuff are updated. Is it just my GPU is bad?
Either way though I'm thinking of upgrading it. But I can't for my life find out what socket or whatever it's called is. I think it might be. I think it may be PCI Express. I think the most common one now is PCI Express x16 2.0. Any suggestions on a new card that costs around $140?
 
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Nvidia GTS 250 or ATi HD 5750 at $140
ATi HD 4850 at $110-120.
GTS 250 is the strongest performer overall.
ATi HD 4850 is the 2nd strongest performer except on SC2 where it is overshadowed by the HD 5750 (odd!).
ATi HD 5750 is the weakest of the bunch except in SC2, but it also supports DX11, Eyefinity (too weak for Eyefinity though).
5750 is the most power efficient, 4850 least so, and GTS 250 in the middle.
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someone else with the exact same card and an athlon CPU had similar issues.
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wait what the fuck you're running SC2 on ultra with a 9300? Sorry, don't believe you.
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Kennigit
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....there is no reason for you to be running Sc2 on ultra with that card. Turn it to medium and this will solve your problems lol.
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its not even a card
it's a fucking igp
and it's worse than the IGP on the AMD 790GX series
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On March 06 2010 12:00 FragKrag wrote:
wait what the fuck you're running SC2 on ultra with a 9300? Sorry, don't believe you.
Everything but shader, if I put shader on anything other than low it lags horribly when I try to scroll.
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it is true that most gpus lack decent shader support, though I believe the 9300 has some of the better shaders out there.
9300 won't run SC2 at ultra + low shaders at 1680x1050 bud
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Then I should lower my resolution? Cause everything runs smoothly until shader is above low then it only lags when I scroll... and everything does run well with all at ultra and resolution at 1650x1080 with shaders on low
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in SC2 the 'shader' setting is like... the only setting that seems to do anything. Ultra + low shaders is basically 'low'.
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hm maybe it's my ignorance of SC2 settings then. Your 9300 will not handle shaders above low because it is a weak GPU in the first place.
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Yeh origionally I was considering the 5750 just I don't know if the slots compatible with my computer as I think the 9300 one is much older and uses and older slot type. I think they're called slots at least O.O
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Uninstall the latest drivers IE. 196.75, unless you like replacing graphics cards.
There is a bug that causes the fan to stop working causing it to overheat, before melting the card.
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On March 06 2010 12:38 Nub4ever wrote:
Yeh origionally I was considering the 5750 just I don't know if the slots compatible with my computer as I think the 9300 one is much older and uses and older slot type. I think they're called slots at least O.O
You either have:
- A PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot = you're good to go, buy the 5750
- A 1.x PCI express x16 = you can still buy any new card and it will work, but don't plan on buying a super powerful card since it'll be throttled by the lower bandwidth (I don't know at what point it makes a difference, I'm guessing a 5750 would be okay but don't take my word for it)
- Onboard video = you can't get a new GPU without getting a whole new motherboard (unless you have one of the aformentioned slots in addition to onboard video).
To determine this if you don't know already, you can download a program like CPU-Z. Open it, go to the "mainboard" tab, and look under 'graphic interface'. If it says PCI-Express x16 you're good to go. If you want to find out if it's 1.x or 2.0, google the model of your motherboard (at the top of that tab)
Edit: oh, geforce 9300 is motherboard-only, it's not in a slot at all. You might still have a PCIe slot, though, google your motherboard's model to find out. (or find out what it looks like and open it up)
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The 5750 is actually the card I consider the worst. I would honestly go with the GTS 250. (me going for nvidia product?!?!?!!?!)
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oooo after looking at CPU-Z I think I might know why my GPU is able to run SC2 on all ultra as I've got a Nvidia Geforce 9300GE and a Nvidia Geforce 9200, but my slot is PCI Express x16 1.0 =( I guess I'll go for GTS 250
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PCIe X16 1.0 = PCIe X8 2.0
it makes no real difference in cards that are below the 5870 in performance :p
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as i am thinking also to buy a new GPU i am asking you in this post. NVIDIA 250GTS or ATI 5770 ?
anyone could help me?
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