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JohnColtrane
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
On February 01 2010 12:11 sassy wrote: i dont think varg disliked it in fact his thoughts on the matter were mainly formed while in prison, he did a whole lot of reading and tried to create a concept that benefits scandinavians and their cultural and "national" interests. His views on the matter did change multiple times which is normal, he was only 19 when he went to jail. He developed into a national-socialist then into a nationalist. Hes nowhere as radical as he used to be. With time comes understanding so dont make large assumptions as to whether he "likes" slavs or not. He has a spot for them in his philosophy which benefits it. But all slavs? Doubtful. Considering that he openly expressed negativism towards muslims( for instance turks) i dont see him accepting macedonians as another "aryan" race( if thats what youre trying to do) I think he will be drifting further away from whole "aryan" and "non-aryan" stratification. Its a silly debate but i am familiar with how it goes many communities are trying hard to find a way into his world model simply because his words have a completely different merit compared to whatever else is out there these days. But trying to forcefully build something artificial in only makes it less stable he definitely is still sharp and i am interested to see his new work. At the same time not expecting another explosion( who knows, who knows) You see, you don't THINK that Varg disliked the nazi Germany attitude towards Slavs, and i said i've READ his blog. Got it now? Varg wouldn't accept Macedonians as Aryans? Slavs(and thus Slavic Nations) ARE Aryans, i thought you were studing subject called Ethnology. | ||
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WeSt
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koreasilver
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sassy
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On February 01 2010 22:27 Daemonarch wrote: You see, you don't THINK that Varg disliked the nazi Germany attitude towards Slavs, and i said i've READ his blog. Got it now? Varg wouldn't accept Macedonians as Aryans? Slavs(and thus Slavic Nations) ARE Aryans, i thought you were studing subject called Ethnology. we've all read his blog i can quote you a part about slavs "You might think the German's stupid view on the Slavs is a "nazi" thing, but (unfortunately?) it seems to be more like a German view, and its roots go back at least to the middle ages - when some German crusader veterans, the Maria Knights and the Swordbrother Knights, joined forces (and formed the Teutonic Order) and went to Christianize the "primitive" heathens (Balts and Slavs) in Prussia, Memel, Kurland, Livland, Estland, Polotsk, Pskov, Ingermanland, et cetera." he simply talks about the difference between germans and norwegians historically. He states - "however, the Norwegian "nazis" never had a negative view on the Slavs" - thats it. Read my post again, i mentioned varg protecting norwegian interests, not german. He accepts their attitude as historically justified. Nowhere does he mention Hitler or express hatred towards him when i say "i dont think" i simply express my opinion on the matter, because you only know as much as internet allows you to im sorry buddy but ethnology doesnt usually operate with "aryans". When it does it differs from the nazi definition the way indians differ from swedes | ||
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
I am very much aware of the Ethnology view on the Aryan term, that it doesn't fully classify the thing, and it unnecessarily narrows ethnology as science. Yet again. Proto-Germans, Slavs, Celts they are tribes are accepted as Aryan and ethnologically connected. P.S. For one who used my country as a reference for argument, please choose/say your country. Just plain curiosity. | ||
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reincremate
China2211 Posts
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
P.S. To state the obvious i am no racist nor white power supporter. I am at a forum that glorifies Koreans amirite? :> | ||
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sassy
240 Posts
youre trying to play with terminology that is way over your head. Ethnology does use a term "aryan" but it has a completely different meaning compared to the one a typical "nazi" implies( or varg in this case) Ethnological "aryan" is indo-iranian, thus only vaguely tied with indo-european. Indo-europeans spread all over the continent mixing with local tribes. Thats how we got greeks, romans, germans, celts, slavs, balts etc. Even though they have a thing in common( indo-european influence) the tribes that indo-europeans mixed with locally were obviously of a diverse origin, illiryans in the Balkans for instance the problem is that ethnology doesnt use term "aryan" in order to describe "white european nations", it has little to none descriptive merit. Indo-europeans went into anatolia( modern day turkey) as well. So turks are "aryan" too. Obviously add Iran and India. Seems like this isnt anywhere close to what you've implied, your definition is indeed similar to the one that "nazis" used( or varg at that) The only difference is that "nazis" excluded slavs out of it while varg has a spot for them. Reason for that would be so-called national and political interests. Both definitions are pseudo-scientific and have little to do with ethnology as Hitler himself stated, if he had to be a communist in order to acquire power in germany he would become one. My advice is - dont get tangled up in the definitions, grasping the concept is a priority here, it always has more importance even if you are slightly off | ||
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