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sassy
240 Posts
On February 01 2010 09:16 Mindcrime wrote: Anton Lavey never murdered anyone. Satanism would be a step up for Varg, who is a horrible human being. so it would be a step up for christians as well? | ||
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koreasilver
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9287
United States134 Posts
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Wotans_Fire
United Kingdom294 Posts
On February 01 2010 09:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: They were in the same band. Varg was the bassist of Mayhem, Euronymous was the guitarist. It is actually quite amazingly a one man band Euronymous played in one track I 'War' and was his 'producer'. I don't know how to double quote, but no it was not about some chick. Euronomys planned to kidnap and torture Varg to death while videotaping it for his own pleasure (reason was because people started to despise him and he blamed his shortcomings on Varg). He told his closest friends who told Varg, who confronted him. You can read about it on the website in the first chapters. | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On February 01 2010 09:16 sassy wrote: not sure if this will make you feel better but one of the reasons was some 16 year old swedish chick music was revolutionary, burzum was what really made black huge. They got more attention than they ever needed have you actually listened to his music? what's so revolutionary about it | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
On February 01 2010 08:28 Wotans_Fire wrote: I also read somewhere else that poor hygiene in the Middle Ages is directly related to Christianity who said it was a sin to wash. Washing was an important part of paganism and is why it was considered unhealthy. This is so false. Christianity never say that its a sin to wash, quite the opposite. Where did you read this? | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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KNICK
Germany248 Posts
On February 01 2010 09:23 Wotans_Fire wrote: I don't know how to double quote, but no it was not about some chick. Euronomys planned to kidnap and torture Varg to death while videotaping it for his own pleasure (reason was because people started to despise him and he blamed his shortcomings on Varg). He told his closest friends who told Varg. You can read about it on the website in the first chapters. Keep in mind though, what you read on burzum.org is Varg's version of what happened. Euronymous obviously can't tell us about it anymore, I guess the truth lies somewhere in between the verdict/Blackthorn's testimony and Varg's "it was self-defense". On February 01 2010 09:24 JohnColtrane wrote: have you actually listened to his music? what's so revolutionary about it It's all a matter of opinion. It was revolutionary because there was nothing quite like it ever before. Of course, Mayhem, Emperor, Darkthrone, Immortal etc. already existed by the time the Burzum debut was released, but these were all actual bands with multiple members in their line-up and then there's this one guy that no one really knows anything about and he creates and records several Black Metal masterpieces (again, matter of opinion, but I think I'm not the only one who would call them masterpieces) all by himself. Also, Burzum's music is intentionally very repetitive and extremely atmospheric, this is further enhanced by the use of ambient interludes (Han Som Reiste, Den Onde Kysten...) and Varg's vocals which were unique back then, to say the least. On February 01 2010 09:40 PH wrote: I thought the guy was in jail...how's Burzum coming out with a new album? o.O He was released on parole sometime in May 2009. | ||
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Wotans_Fire
United Kingdom294 Posts
On February 01 2010 09:38 ThePhan2m wrote: This is so false. Christianity never say that its a sin to wash, quite the opposite. Where did you read this? In Scandinavian countries, Saturday is called Lördag or Laurdag, the name being derived from the old word laugr/laug (hence Icelandic name Laugardagur), meaning bath, thus Lördag equates to bath-day. This is due to the Viking practice of bathing on Saturdays. source: http://www.answers.com/topic/saturday Saturday was a day of washing the house and yourself for Pagans. Is it a coincidence then that everyone thought washing to be unhealthy during the Middle Ages when Christianity took over? | ||
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sassy
240 Posts
On February 01 2010 09:23 Wotans_Fire wrote: I don't know how to double quote, but no it was not about some chick. Euronomys planned to kidnap and torture Varg to death while videotaping it for his own pleasure (reason was because people started to despise him and he blamed his shortcomings on Varg). He told his closest friends who told Varg, who confronted him. You can read about it on the website in the first chapters. hope you arent serious about this, youre 21 after all. On the other hand theres some lack of entertainment in denmark so at least i can understand where its coming from. This is probably one of the most hilarious versions i ever heard and i didnt say he killed him over the chick, i said "one of the reasons" thus just another one of 100 theories brought up as a joke( since zoler is from sweden) On February 01 2010 09:24 JohnColtrane wrote: have you actually listened to his music? what's so revolutionary about it everything? i think he was fairly talented. I even liked Dauði Baldrs( still remember studying for my ethnology exam while listening to it) i guess you have to like the genre in order to appreciate it | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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Wotans_Fire
United Kingdom294 Posts
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stack
Canada348 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
On February 01 2010 08:50 sassy wrote: nice OP, i wouldnt think anyone in europe would even dare to quote varg on his nationalistic views. Isnt it a bit taboo? also what does the blog title have to do with anything? isnt this about burzum instead of satanism? funny how you linked nocturnal mortum here, would varg approve? they just lowly slavs arent they? how old are you? just curious you mean This is War? Varg's main reason for disliking Hitlers nazi regime, was because Hitler himself considered Slavs as inferior race - and not a fellow Aryan people. His blog is quite insightful about Nordic Mythology archtypes (in Jungian sense). You should probably change your topic name though. | ||
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vRoOk
United States1024 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On February 01 2010 10:18 vRoOk wrote: satanism is bad.. mmkay? Be quite, you. BE QUITE. | ||
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sassy
240 Posts
On February 01 2010 10:16 Daemonarch wrote: Varg's main reason for disliking Hitlers nazi regime, was because Hitler himself considered Slavs as inferior race - and not a fellow Aryan people. His blog is quite insightful about Nordic Mythology archtypes (in Jungian sense). You should probably change your topic name though. i dont think varg disliked it in fact his thoughts on the matter were mainly formed while in prison, he did a whole lot of reading and tried to create a concept that benefits scandinavians and their cultural and "national" interests. His views on the matter did change multiple times which is normal, he was only 19 when he went to jail. He developed into a national-socialist then into a nationalist. Hes nowhere as radical as he used to be. With time comes understanding so dont make large assumptions as to whether he "likes" slavs or not. He has a spot for them in his philosophy which benefits it. But all slavs? Doubtful. Considering that he openly expressed negativism towards muslims( for instance turks) i dont see him accepting macedonians as another "aryan" race( if thats what youre trying to do) I think he will be drifting further away from whole "aryan" and "non-aryan" stratification. Its a silly debate but i am familiar with how it goes many communities are trying hard to find a way into his world model simply because his words have a completely different merit compared to whatever else is out there these days. But trying to forcefully build something artificial in only makes it less stable he definitely is still sharp and i am interested to see his new work. At the same time not expecting another explosion( who knows, who knows) | ||
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
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