• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:16
CET 23:16
KST 07:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0222LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)36Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker11PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)15
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Terran Scanner Sweep Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win
Tourneys
SC2 AI Tournament 2026 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Which units you wish saw more use in the game? ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 StarCraft player reflex TE scores
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2001 users

Lifting is Hacking - Page 2

Blogs > Roffles
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 05:23:37
January 31 2010 05:23 GMT
#21
On January 31 2010 13:37 kaleidoscope wrote:
Why would u want to play vs him?

Anyway, Astrokiki is one of a TL writer, if i'm not wrong

+ Show Spoiler +
pangshai?


Edit: Oh, someone above me has confirmed that lolol

He can reach B-/B/B+ i guess


Nice try. pangshai is C- tops.
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
January 31 2010 06:23 GMT
#22
On January 31 2010 14:23 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 13:37 kaleidoscope wrote:
Why would u want to play vs him?

Anyway, Astrokiki is one of a TL writer, if i'm not wrong

+ Show Spoiler +
pangshai?


Edit: Oh, someone above me has confirmed that lolol

He can reach B-/B/B+ i guess


Nice try. pangshai is C- tops.


I said "i guess"

I'm sure he can reach C+.. He's quite inactive lately..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
January 31 2010 09:51 GMT
#23
On January 31 2010 12:56 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
14 cc at opponents nat is the gayest cheese ever. Hard counter to 12 nexus and cannon rushing.
Might even work vs proxy gate.

i'm gonna revolutionise tvp. 've also got a new build vs zerg's 3 hatch before pool ^^

C-/C high
#1 midas fan
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
January 31 2010 10:04 GMT
#24
lol pangshai, legendary.
POGGERS
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
February 01 2010 02:17 GMT
#25
On January 31 2010 15:23 kaleidoscope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 14:23 Saracen wrote:
On January 31 2010 13:37 kaleidoscope wrote:
Why would u want to play vs him?

Anyway, Astrokiki is one of a TL writer, if i'm not wrong

+ Show Spoiler +
pangshai?


Edit: Oh, someone above me has confirmed that lolol

He can reach B-/B/B+ i guess


Nice try. pangshai is C- tops.


I said "i guess"

I'm sure he can reach C+.. He's quite inactive lately..

I was kidding... I hope pangshai realizes this ^_^
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
February 01 2010 04:42 GMT
#26
Lol that was awesome
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
February 01 2010 09:15 GMT
#27
lol thought you meant weights in rl
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
February 01 2010 09:21 GMT
#28
So pangshai is a C-/C hacker, T_T
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
February 13 2010 21:29 GMT
#29
On January 31 2010 11:49 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 11:39 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
QQ more dude
Don't say lift is imba, I think we all know only protoss can building rush someone that easily
And terran needs liftoff, if you didn;t notice it's teh hardest race to defend an expansion
Obviously your D rank and should learn what to do

Terran - The only race that can cheese and then go "oh shit that failed, let's just move my buildings back home"

Man, what kind of a pimpest play is lifting off? You guys have low PP standards.

Yeah hardest race to cheese? Terran
Zerg: 4 pool, doesnt really rely where u build any proxies, just on the map.
Protoss: Micro isnt as HEAVY as marine scv. Im pretty sure even you agree zealots are easier to micro than heavy marine scv. Terran is the hardest race to cheese, therefore needing a backup.
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
Jlab
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States217 Posts
February 13 2010 22:50 GMT
#30
Why would you revive this thread?
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
18:00
Open Showdown #2
SteadfastSC313
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 841
SteadfastSC 313
Nathanias 96
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 12169
nyoken 88
IntoTheRainbow 29
Dota 2
febbydoto13
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2565
fl0m1857
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox565
Mew2King55
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor343
Other Games
gofns14051
tarik_tv12266
FrodaN6959
summit1g6057
Grubby3852
Liquid`RaSZi1943
Mlord639
KnowMe395
ViBE34
Maynarde0
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1728
gamesdonequick1245
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 52
• davetesta37
• Reevou 13
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach25
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV677
• masondota2628
• lizZardDota261
League of Legends
• Doublelift4333
• TFBlade1315
Other Games
• imaqtpie1937
• Shiphtur302
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 45m
Replay Cast
10h 45m
Wardi Open
13h 45m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 45m
OSC
1d 1h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 13h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-14
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.