• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:45
CEST 06:45
KST 13:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview5[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris38Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
#2: Serral - Greatest Players of All Time #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update BoxeR's Wings Episode 2 - Fan Translation
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Kirktown Chat Brawl #8 - 4.6K max Tonight LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
Post ASL20 Ro24 discussion. BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Easiest luckies way to get out of Asl groups BW General Discussion No Rain in ASL20?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro24 Group F Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Mechabellum Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 758 users

Some Thoughts About Flash

Blogs > EvoChamber
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 07:57:52
December 26 2009 07:57 GMT
#1
Flash is the best player in the world right now not just because he does his homework and not just because he does his homework perfectly, but because on top of all that, he likes what he does. He has a natural aptitude for conceiving a theory and putting it into practice. He’s not just a progamer, he’s also a philosopher of retention and control. You feel as if at any given moment, Flash can tell you his body temperature down to the hundredth of a degree centigrade. He’s that composed.

Flash exemplifies what the essence of the Terran race has become and where it’s headed. The Terran race is math, abstraction, ice. It’s everything that distances you from the outside world. If you want to destroy your enemy and you’re a Terran, you don’t run over to his place and cave his head in like a caveman. No. You sit at home and you do your homework. You watch all his VODs, take notes, and watch them again. You memorize every tiny detail of the maps you’ll play on. And you practice your mechanics until they become as natural to you as your own bones. Compliation, calibration, and regulation; data, charts, and dossiers: that is what Terran is, and that is how Terran is going to stay.

Flash is the ghost in the shell, and the shell is progaming. He dominates mentally, which is to say, intangibly. He wins games before they’ve even been played. You appreciate Flash in the same way that Flash plays, which is to say cerebrally. Other players have a style. Flash has a theory. His victories are the proof of that theory. Jaedong has the best physical in the world, but Flash has the best mental. E-SPORTS is a physical sport like any other, but what makes it E-SPORTS is not that it’s a mental sport (since all sports are mental), but that the mental aspect can be differentiated from the physical aspect. When you dribble a basketball, you don’t think about dribbling the basketball. You’ve practiced the action so long that your body just does it. There is no theory of ice skating independent of the skating itself. Your body skates as well your training and concentration (that is, your absence of thought) permit you to. You don’t skate. Your body skates.

I love Jaedong and everything Jaedong stands for: focus, passion, relentlessness, activity, the striving for physical perfection. Jaedong epitomizes a different race with different units and a different attitude, a race of fire, one in which the body is the mind. But I can see the writing on the wall. I can respect the Terran for whom the mind is the body. Now that he has a good teammates and a stable, nourishing training environment to help shield his actual body from stress and overwork, Flash too is “here to stay.” Other Terrans will copy his build orders and even his execution, but they won’t copy the mind behind it all. A pure dominion of the mind: I can respect it.

But I can’t be charmed by it. Charm is bodily. It requires no reasons, only incarnation. Flash has no charm for the same reason Tiger Woods has no charm: he’s been conditioned to be completely premeditated. Golf is the most Terran of sports, a sport in which to be spontaneous is a liability.

****
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
aegisabcde
Profile Joined November 2008
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 08:05:19
December 26 2009 08:04 GMT
#2
Well said. I indeed love (T)Flash because he is so cerebral, composed under pressure, and has excellent decision making. I can see why some people don't find his play exciting.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 26 2009 08:19 GMT
#3
Yeah, Flash is so fucking good that Best has a 100% win rate against him. Unbelievable. Flash is too good.
Brood War loyalist
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
December 26 2009 08:24 GMT
#4
On December 26 2009 17:19 meegrean wrote:
Yeah, Flash is so fucking good that Best has a 100% win rate against him. Unbelievable. Flash is too good.

oh my gosh. good point!!
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
December 26 2009 08:26 GMT
#5
On December 26 2009 17:19 meegrean wrote:
Yeah, Flash is so fucking good that Best has a 100% win rate against him. Unbelievable. Flash is too good.


wow really man thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2228 Posts
December 26 2009 08:50 GMT
#6
On December 26 2009 17:19 meegrean wrote:
Yeah, Flash is so fucking good that Best has a 100% win rate against him. Unbelievable. Flash is too good.

this has to be THE absolute post, thank you for sharing with us, love
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
December 26 2009 08:50 GMT
#7
I understand being a fan of a certain player, but HATING players is the dumbest shit I ever heard. Whats dumb is how people watch games of players they "HATE" and put them down the whole fucking time. Can't you just enjoy the SC scene. The pro gaming scene on TL.net is almost unbearable because of this.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2228 Posts
December 26 2009 08:52 GMT
#8
On December 26 2009 17:50 rel wrote:
I understand being a fan of a certain player, but HATING players is the dumbest shit I ever heard. Whats dumb is how people watch games of players they "HATE" and put them down the whole fucking time. Can't you just enjoy the SC scene. The pro gaming scene on TL.net is almost unbearable because of this.

well, there cant be love without hate, Fantasy
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
December 26 2009 09:09 GMT
#9
Great write-up/

You need to turn this into a FE With some more body, some pics and a video or two (flash highlight ahem*) this could be an FE
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 09:33:10
December 26 2009 09:24 GMT
#10
Wait, no, there's no need to critique a blog. I apologize.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 26 2009 09:48 GMT
#11
I think you are understating how good flash's micro is : 3
brood war for life, brood war forever
invy
Profile Joined April 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina41 Posts
December 26 2009 09:54 GMT
#12
Flash is probably the best player in the world atm. But he sucks cause one word: cheeeeeeese.

He ruined series v Jaedong. Nobody likes to watch the game lasts 3 minutes. Cheap and lame way to win, he doesnt need that. Yes, you can argue that he has the skill to cheese Jaedong but its still lame. I expected to wath good game and what I got was ****.. I was dissappointed.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 10:00:26
December 26 2009 09:59 GMT
#13
On December 26 2009 18:54 invy wrote:
Flash is probably the best player in the world atm. But he sucks cause one word: cheeeeeeese.

He ruined series v Jaedong. Nobody likes to watch the game lasts 3 minutes. Cheap and lame way to win, he doesnt need that. Yes, you can argue that he has the skill to cheese Jaedong but its still lame. I expected to wath good game and what I got was ****.. I was dissappointed.

So basically you are disappointed because he did something else that you expected? Life is not fair, deal with it. Flash has absolutely no obligation to your expectations. I liked that game.
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
December 26 2009 10:05 GMT
#14
On December 26 2009 18:59 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 18:54 invy wrote:
Flash is probably the best player in the world atm. But he sucks cause one word: cheeeeeeese.

He ruined series v Jaedong. Nobody likes to watch the game lasts 3 minutes. Cheap and lame way to win, he doesnt need that. Yes, you can argue that he has the skill to cheese Jaedong but its still lame. I expected to wath good game and what I got was ****.. I was dissappointed.

So basically you are disappointed because he did something else that you expected? Life is not fair, deal with it. Flash has absolutely no obligation to your expectations. I liked that game.

I for one, love watching games that last three minutes.

Imagine the hopes, dreams, and practice hours that Jaedong put into that game and Flash crushed them with a well timed rush three minutes in.

It's one of the reasons Starcraft is so good, because you can lose at ANY POINT of the game. This ain't no 3v3 ZC NR20 on battle.net.
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 26 2009 10:46 GMT
#15
On December 26 2009 18:09 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Great write-up/

You need to turn this into a FE With some more body, some pics and a video or two (flash highlight ahem*) this could be an FE


but that would be redundant
RIP Aaliyah
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
December 26 2009 11:12 GMT
#16
On December 26 2009 17:19 meegrean wrote:
Yeah, Flash is so fucking good that Best has a 100% win rate against him. Unbelievable. Flash is too good.

Haha, well said!

Must say that I love when flash plays MnM though!
4649!!
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
December 26 2009 11:18 GMT
#17
Flash is really really good. I'm not a Flash fan because I like players who show emotion and do crazy awesome builds. Flash doesn't really show emotion and his builds are usually pretty bland or reactionary to what his opponent is doing.

Given, that's how you become the best and that is why he is doing so well, but it doesnt make me a fan.

I love all progamers, but cmon, ZerO and FBH put on a way better show.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 26 2009 11:19 GMT
#18
On December 26 2009 18:09 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Great write-up/

You need to turn this into a FE With some more body, some pics and a video or two (flash highlight ahem*) this could be an FE

no, please dont clog up this masterpiece with useless pics and videos. it's fine as is.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7891 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 12:00:54
December 26 2009 11:57 GMT
#19
On December 26 2009 18:54 invy wrote:
Flash is probably the best player in the world atm. But he sucks cause one word: cheeeeeeese.

He ruined series v Jaedong. Nobody likes to watch the game lasts 3 minutes. Cheap and lame way to win, he doesnt need that. Yes, you can argue that he has the skill to cheese Jaedong but its still lame. I expected to wath good game and what I got was ****.. I was dissappointed.

So Boxer sucks a lot, and has always sucked, following your ill logic.

You guys are complaining all day long about the good old days when people were using other strategy than 1 rax FE vs 3 Hatch Muta we have all seen and played 67563756768 times. Someone comes and play a prepared strategy, non standard stuff and you are all crying like jackass because it's "gay" and "cheese".

Buy a brain or something. You will notice that players in their prime cheese a lot. When they stop cheesing, that means that they are not as good as before. Cheesing needs a lot of confidence, of mind game. Cheesing is great. It keeps the game alive, it question standard playing which is incredibly greedy if you think about it.

Flash sucked when he started playing only more and more greedy: 14 CC after 14 CC. That sucks. But seing him stomping the best zerg in the world with a perfectly prepared bunker rush, with a 7 rax perfectly timed to catch first overlord, that's just amazing.


Look at Morrow replay pack. He won an incredible number of game with the same rush. So what. You know what is the conclusion? The conclusion is not that he is a cheesy noob, the conclusion is that he has been smart and everybody suck balls so hard that they can't defend against a bunker rush. If you can't defend at all against a bunker rush, then don't open 12 hatch, because, simple as that, you don't have the level for this opening. And if you can defend but somehow you fail, then don't rage at your opponent who has balls and took risks.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 26 2009 12:08 GMT
#20
On December 26 2009 20:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 18:54 invy wrote:
Flash is probably the best player in the world atm. But he sucks cause one word: cheeeeeeese.

He ruined series v Jaedong. Nobody likes to watch the game lasts 3 minutes. Cheap and lame way to win, he doesnt need that. Yes, you can argue that he has the skill to cheese Jaedong but its still lame. I expected to wath good game and what I got was ****.. I was dissappointed.

So Boxer sucks a lot, and has always sucked, following your ill logic.

You guys are complaining all day long about the good old days when people were using other strategy than 1 rax FE vs 3 Hatch Muta we have all seen and played 67563756768 times. Someone comes and play a prepared strategy, non standard stuff and you are all crying like jackass because it's "gay" and "cheese".

Buy a brain or something. You will notice that players in their prime cheese a lot. When they stop cheesing, that means that they are not as good as before. Cheesing needs a lot of confidence, of mind game. Cheesing is great. It keeps the game alive, it question standard playing which is incredibly greedy if you think about it.

Flash sucked when he started playing only more and more greedy: 14 CC after 14 CC. That sucks. But seing him stomping the best zerg in the world with a perfectly prepared bunker rush, with a 7 rax perfectly timed to catch first overlord, that's just amazing.


Look at Morrow replay pack. He won an incredible number of game with the same rush. So what. You know what is the conclusion? The conclusion is not that he is a cheesy noob, the conclusion is that he has been smart and everybody suck balls so hard that they can't defend against a bunker rush. If you can't defend at all against a bunker rush, then don't open 12 hatch, because, simple as that, you don't have the level for this opening. And if you can defend but somehow you fail, then don't rage at your opponent who has balls and took risks.


Lol don't open 12 hatch..

Try overpool/9 pool vs a wall (terran opening vulture) (especially with ling speed), it's fucking hard to come back.

Try 12 pool vs 1 rax FE. The timing is very different, and you may not have good muta micro to do very fast 2 hatch muta.
sAviOr...
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 219
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1987
sSak 1494
NaDa 83
Noble 31
Icarus 15
Dota 2
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 650
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi154
Other Games
summit1g9010
WinterStarcraft484
ViBE73
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1188
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 39
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• Sammyuel 0
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2871
League of Legends
• Scarra1484
• Lourlo1003
• Stunt306
Upcoming Events
SC Evo League
7h 16m
Maestros of the Game
11h 16m
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
14h 16m
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
14h 16m
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
1d 5h
Soulkey vs BeSt
Snow vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs Astrea
Classic vs sOs
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
GuMiho vs Cham
ByuN vs TriGGeR
Cosmonarchy
6 days
TriGGeR vs YoungYakov
YoungYakov vs HonMonO
HonMonO vs TriGGeR
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS1
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
Sisters' Call Cup
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.