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Why I have given up on mainstream hip hop/rap.

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Trident
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Bhutan54 Posts
December 24 2009 18:43 GMT
#1
This guy, " Lil B " got a record deal a while ago, listen to this song.


I thought it was a joke 100% at first, but I realized all his songs are like that. I suggest listening to the whole song because it is very funny. He put no effort into the track o.o

Now, lets look a while back a fewlot of years and listen to this song " Slick Rick - Children's Story.



This song probably took a very long time to make but it is verrrry good, it has great story telling and mediocre lyricism.



Another example of a song that actually makes sense, has great story telling and pretty decent lyricism.

Idk why I just wanted to post this to give TL.Net some lols and to see that hip hop/ rap now SUCKS

****
Dont stress, meditate
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
December 24 2009 18:45 GMT
#2
I treat music the way i treat candy. I throw away the wrappers, and keep the rest.
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
December 24 2009 18:48 GMT
#3
I appreciate good rap, but alot of this new shit is annoying,,,I blame the Atlanta rap scene .
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 24 2009 19:03 GMT
#4
I'll post some good rap to help me clean my ears of that horrible shit I just listened to.







RIP Aaliyah
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 19:16:08
December 24 2009 19:06 GMT
#5
Mainstream hip hop has been whack for a while, underground is where it's at.

Something like this is what you want
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 19:11:02
December 24 2009 19:09 GMT
#6
Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 2002 but it didn't get real bad till around 2007. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.

At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Trident
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Bhutan54 Posts
December 24 2009 19:17 GMT
#7
On December 25 2009 03:48 Megalisk wrote:
I appreciate good rap, but alot of this new shit is annoying,,,I blame the Atlanta rap scene .



Blame the mainstream Atlanta rap scene, there are amazing groups like Mars Ill from Atlanta.
Dont stress, meditate
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 24 2009 19:18 GMT
#8
On December 25 2009 04:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'll post some good rap to help me clean my ears of that horrible shit I just listened to.


I've always hated your posting, literally, every single fucking post, I just loathed you along time ago.

But now you go and post my favorite can ox song, then post my favorite rapper a.r., and post a song by him that most people don't even know exists, most people don't know about team teamwork.

Here we go I guess







Also I saw cage live awhile back, he signed my t-shirt, and I pushed a guy that was cussing him out.


We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
December 24 2009 19:20 GMT
#9
On December 25 2009 03:45 Misrah wrote:
I treat music the way i treat candy. I throw away the wrappers, and keep the rest.

Haha, so good.

Somewhat the same for me, but only because it's hard to find rappers that are genuinely talented and/or good without actively looking for them. Since I generally don't listen to rap, I don't actively look for it, as a result, rarely listen to rap.
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
December 24 2009 19:22 GMT
#10
Lil G is a joke. Who said he got a deal from that? I dont beleive it. If it says it on youtube then its a joke just so he can get more viewers
Treatin' fools since '87
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 24 2009 19:29 GMT
#11
On December 25 2009 04:20 Archaic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 03:45 Misrah wrote:
I treat music the way i treat candy. I throw away the wrappers, and keep the rest.

Haha, so good.

Somewhat the same for me, but only because it's hard to find rappers that are genuinely talented and/or good without actively looking for them. Since I generally don't listen to rap, I don't actively look for it, as a result, rarely listen to rap.


There's plenty of talented rappers out there, just because the underground scene is "underground" doesn't mean they're hard to find. Just listen to a ton of it and try to find something you like. I never listened to rap until I heard a random immortal technique song along time back (I don't really like him, but he is good). You might just need to find something to hook you in. Try listening to some of the stuff in this thread and give it a chance I guess.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 24 2009 19:30 GMT
#12
On December 25 2009 04:18 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 04:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'll post some good rap to help me clean my ears of that horrible shit I just listened to.


I've always hated your posting, literally, every single fucking post, I just loathed you along time ago.

But now you go and post my favorite can ox song, then post my favorite rapper a.r., and post a song by him that most people don't even know exists, most people don't know about team teamwork.

Here we go I guess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgEZhfXZMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qz2MfXTsk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQyCR6tEs7E

Also I saw cage live awhile back, he signed my t-shirt, and I pushed a guy that was cussing him out.




Well I'm glad we have similar tastes in rap even if you hate me as a poster
RIP Aaliyah
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 24 2009 19:31 GMT
#13


Well I'm glad we have similar tastes in rap even if you hate me as a poster


I used to, but your posting changed when you started actively writing.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 24 2009 19:32 GMT
#14
Also for a rap blog I can't help but post this video. This is the single greatest response to rap battle in the history of mankind. If you like experimental hip-hop I highly suggest the album "Earth Beasts Awaken" by Historian Himself. It's free on his website.



This video is Historian Himself's response to a rap battle by Tykwon Flow. Fabulous.

RIP Aaliyah
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 24 2009 19:35 GMT
#15
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote:
Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.

At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music



Fixed
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 24 2009 19:40 GMT
#16
I've got a question for the rap community. No I'm not trolling, I promise. Just me being uneducated.

I don't listen to much rap, but in...say the rock or metal genre, there's a ton of subgenres...like hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, blah blah blah. I don't care for alot of the bigger (more popular?) rap artists that are on the radio. I listen to stuff like..


Dr Octagon


Deltron 3030

and so on...I know a guy who listens to a lot of rap and when I ask him he's like... "I dunno, it's a lot of kinds." If I want to find similar rap to that, which genre should I look for or what are some similar artists?
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 24 2009 19:45 GMT
#17
On December 25 2009 04:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Also for a rap blog I can't help but post this video. This is the single greatest response to rap battle in the history of mankind. If you like experimental hip-hop I highly suggest the album "Earth Beasts Awaken" by Historian Himself. It's free on his website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JyLRs-824

This video is Historian Himself's response to a rap battle by Tykwon Flow. Fabulous.


this guy sounds like a slowed down less technical busdriver
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 24 2009 19:47 GMT
#18
omfg that first song is HILARIOUS
its so bad, holy shit, holy shit
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 19:58:38
December 24 2009 19:53 GMT
#19
On December 25 2009 04:40 Torenhire wrote:
I've got a question for the rap community. No I'm not trolling, I promise. Just me being uneducated.

I don't listen to much rap, but in...say the rock or metal genre, there's a ton of subgenres...like hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, blah blah blah. I don't care for alot of the bigger (more popular?) rap artists that are on the radio. I listen to stuff like..


Dr Octagon

Deltron 3030

and so on...I know a guy who listens to a lot of rap and when I ask him he's like... "I dunno, it's a lot of kinds." If I want to find similar rap to that, which genre should I look for or what are some similar artists?


Uh first of all Rap and Hip-Hop are different genres. Rap IS the main stream garbage. The only underground rap you will find are from really really bad up and comers trying to make it into the mainstream. (OP video for example)

So, yea, There is Hip-Hop which is more mainstreamed stuff, classic/golden age etc.
If you go to the hip-hop wiki page there is a huge listing of all the sub genres.

People/Groups like Gravediggas, Necro, Goretex, and all those east coast psycho+illogical guys would be called horrorcore/deathrap/etc.
Then you have pseudo christian/religious guys like Pigeon John, LMNO or whatever.
Then you have lots of political MCs (nearly all underground hip-hop has something political to say, even guys like Nas).
There has even been a rising trend of nerdcore/nerdrap/etc guys like Futuristic Sex Robots,Random, TY Cracker, MC Frontalot, etc.


I could go on, mostly all of the sub genres are considered underground,even though imo they are pretty mainstream. Stuff like Atmosphere, Visionaries, Sage Francis, Aesop Rock, Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, etc. etc. are all in this category. They are better than the commercial rap but not nearly as good as some of the deeper artists.

I like to think of it like this: These well known 'underground' artists are like the gateway drug to the heroine/crack that lies below.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 24 2009 19:56 GMT
#20
On December 25 2009 04:53 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 04:40 Torenhire wrote:
I've got a question for the rap community. No I'm not trolling, I promise. Just me being uneducated.

I don't listen to much rap, but in...say the rock or metal genre, there's a ton of subgenres...like hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, blah blah blah. I don't care for alot of the bigger (more popular?) rap artists that are on the radio. I listen to stuff like..


Dr Octagon

Deltron 3030

and so on...I know a guy who listens to a lot of rap and when I ask him he's like... "I dunno, it's a lot of kinds." If I want to find similar rap to that, which genre should I look for or what are some similar artists?


Uh first of all Rap and Hip-Hop are different genres. Rap IS the main stream garbage. The only underground rap you will find are from really really bad up and comers trying to make it into the mainstream. (OP video for example)

So yea There is Hip-Hop which is more mainstreamed stuff and classic/golden age stuff.
If you go to the hip-hop wiki page there is a huge listing of all the sub genres.

So like Gravediggas, Necro, Goretex, and all those east coast psycho+illogical guys would be called horrorcore/deathrap/etc.
Then you have pseudo christian/religious guys like Pigeon John, LMNO or whatever.

I could go on, mostly all of the sub genres are considered underground,even though imo they are pretty mainstream. Stuff like Atmosphere, Visionaries, Sage Francis, Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, etc. etc. are all in this category. They are better than the commercial rap but not nearly as good as some of the deeper artists.

I like to think of it like this: These well known 'underground' artists are like the gateway drug to the heroine/crack that lies below.


Word, thanks CM.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 24 2009 19:57 GMT
#21
bah I just made some edits.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 24 2009 19:59 GMT
#22
Haha, I must've come back right as you had posted. I just love me some Dr. Octagon and have trouble finding people similar to him in style...so I just kinda asked that and a blanket of other stuff about the genre.

Thanks again, though.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 24 2009 20:02 GMT
#23
There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 24 2009 20:44 GMT
#24
Watch me do that bird walk watch me do that bird walk
crank that soulja boy

It's true, mainstream rap is really awful nowadays. Thanks for the recommendations guys.
Sullifam
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 24 2009 20:47 GMT
#25
why are you guys recommending him underground stuff if he says he gave up on mainstream rap. There are a lot of good mainstream rappers still.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
December 24 2009 20:51 GMT
#26
Styles P is all you need. Seriously
Chains none
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
December 24 2009 20:52 GMT
#27
Chains none
Trident
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Bhutan54 Posts
December 24 2009 21:16 GMT
#28
CM knows his shit
Dont stress, meditate
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
December 24 2009 21:20 GMT
#29
On December 25 2009 04:06 jello_biafra wrote:
Mainstream hip hop has been whack for a while, underground is where it's at.

Something like this is what you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxZYJEIpck


Elzhi, I like your taste.
Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
December 24 2009 23:41 GMT
#30
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.


You are so fucking full of it. YOU are the one who starts all of those arguments
tQ.Speake
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
December 25 2009 00:12 GMT
#31
On December 25 2009 06:20 Amnesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 04:06 jello_biafra wrote:
Mainstream hip hop has been whack for a while, underground is where it's at.

Something like this is what you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxZYJEIpck


Elzhi, I like your taste.


jep. very good stuff
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
December 25 2009 08:08 GMT
#32
In this day and age, I don't understand how anyone can still be content with being fed by mainstream media when there are myriads of ways for you to go and find something you can actually relate to.
Only dead fish swim with the stream
jbk613
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States65 Posts
December 25 2009 08:28 GMT
#33


Elzhi and Royce both kill it.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 13:52:47
December 25 2009 13:52 GMT
#34
On December 25 2009 04:06 jello_biafra wrote:
Mainstream hip hop has been whack for a while, underground is where it's at.

Something like this is what you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxZYJEIpck


Wow. That's sick flow. His voice bothers me a bit but after listening to a little more I'm getting accustomed to it. Thanks for this recommendation
Chains none
Kula
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States140 Posts
December 25 2009 20:30 GMT
#35
90s Classics > 00s Underground > Mainstream of Today
parkerprocise
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
61 Posts
December 25 2009 20:56 GMT
#36
lil b is a rapper from the group "The Pack"


they had that song "Vans"
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
December 25 2009 21:06 GMT
#37
ooh everyone is posting their favorite hiphop, so ill do the same. i didnt used to be into it but one blazed car ride with a good sound system changed my whole perspective.

+ Show Spoiler [Army of the Pharoahs] +


+ Show Spoiler [Yaki Kadafi] +
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 25 2009 21:41 GMT
#38
On December 25 2009 04:45 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 04:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Also for a rap blog I can't help but post this video. This is the single greatest response to rap battle in the history of mankind. If you like experimental hip-hop I highly suggest the album "Earth Beasts Awaken" by Historian Himself. It's free on his website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-JyLRs-824

This video is Historian Himself's response to a rap battle by Tykwon Flow. Fabulous.


this guy sounds like a slowed down less technical busdriver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu7Cd9-ZjA


busdriver is awesome thanks for showing me
And all is illuminated.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 25 2009 21:41 GMT
#39
And all is illuminated.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
December 25 2009 22:09 GMT
#40
I gave up on all rap and hip hop long ago.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 22:37:35
December 25 2009 22:35 GMT
#41








couple of good songs from new albums (2009)

first track, Chicago, is especially recommended
Graphics
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
December 25 2009 23:27 GMT
#42


Chill~
☺ ☻
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 20:34:04
December 26 2009 20:33 GMT
#43
Oh my god sorry for bumping this again with more Styles P but I just heard some of the realest shit ever from him. Dude is mad talented AND he's pretty "mainstream".



That's no joke right there.
Chains none
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 29 2009 23:06 GMT
#44
On December 25 2009 08:41 unSpeake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.


You are so fucking full of it. YOU are the one who starts all of those arguments

haha the irony
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
December 29 2009 23:10 GMT
#45
On December 25 2009 04:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'll post some good rap to help me clean my ears of that horrible shit I just listened to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfo-EGDBEAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2ICdCJNaKI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEtSeiLhPRM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjSGE4F3eIA


Nice, when I listened to hip-hop these were some of my favourites, specially can ox and company flow.
zvz is imba
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 30 2009 00:23 GMT
#46
On December 25 2009 04:35 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote:
Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.

At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music



Fixed


How many posts you think you got where you quote someone, bold a word that you changed, then say "fixed?"
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
December 30 2009 00:28 GMT
#47

















Pretty much the style of hip hop I'm into.
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 30 2009 00:28 GMT
#48
On December 30 2009 09:23 Ganfei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 04:35 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote:
Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.

At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music



Fixed


How many posts you think you got where you quote someone, bold a word that you changed, then say "fixed?"

maybe 2 or 4
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 15:12:37
December 30 2009 01:41 GMT
#49
On December 30 2009 09:28 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 09:23 Ganfei wrote:
On December 25 2009 04:35 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote:
Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.

At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music



Fixed


How many posts you think you got where you quote someone, bold a word that you changed, then say "fixed?"

maybe 20 or 40



fixed.

edit: lofl more SP BITCH

Chains none
Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 06:06:09
December 30 2009 06:01 GMT
#50
On December 30 2009 08:06 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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On December 25 2009 08:41 unSpeake wrote:
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.


You are so fucking full of it. YOU are the one who starts all of those arguments

haha the irony


What irony? You made a blatant lie which is basically instigating an argument; proving my point to be true. Your long diatribes in the hip hop song thread make it painfully obvious.

Ok you didn't lie, but you did imply that someone else carries all of those arguments.
tQ.Speake
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 30 2009 19:29 GMT
#51
This thread is very good, because I never heard of any of these guys before. I only listen to rap from the earlier part of the 90s. Good to see some decent stuff still exists. Although im a sucker for TI Yes flame away.
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OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
December 30 2009 20:09 GMT
#52
Lupe fiasco is pretty good imo
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iRoN-
Profile Joined June 2007
Germany78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 21:47:18
February 16 2010 21:40 GMT
#53
No words just vibe
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EDIT: This is 2003. Im thinking that u just gotta know to which stuff u can listen these days, if u dont want your ears to bleed.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , o.Qv
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7215 Posts
February 16 2010 22:43 GMT
#54
ya that first song is painful. You dont have to have good voice to rap anymore, its painful. All this tight pants shit and really horrible corny voice stuff needs to go. Its amazing that it has gotten progressively worse the past 2-3 years. It wasnt great before that at all, infact it was quite bad, but jesus christ give me crunk music over this tight jean shit.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7215 Posts
February 16 2010 22:45 GMT
#55
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote:
There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.



rofl
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
February 16 2010 23:03 GMT
#56
This is the thing that irritates me most about each and every discussion on hip hop on the internet and why I usually avoid blogs like these: people claiming underground stuff is the only good stuff and that mainstream hip hop is dead. It's actually more irritating than the rock/metalfans who are certain hip hop is not music but just someone talking over a piano loop.

But this is not new at all. My favorite album of all time, Endtroducing, had a skit on it called 'Why Hip Hop Sucks in '96'. Do you think '96 was a bad year for hip hop? I mean, just look at all the great albums that were released that year.
Mainstream hip hop has apparently been dead since the dawn of the genre. Yeah sure, it has some rotten apples, but there probably isn't one single genre that does not have any bad artists at all. And please don't tell me you actually think that Immortal Technique or backpacker endorsed underground supergroup Jedi Mind Tricks are actually any better than Lupe Fiasco or Jay-Z because that would just make me sad.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 16 2010 23:09 GMT
#57
so it begins
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Peanuts.
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States378 Posts
February 17 2010 00:53 GMT
#58
On December 25 2009 03:48 Megalisk wrote:
I appreciate good rap, but alot of this new shit is annoying,,,I blame the Atlanta rap scene .


Don't know about that. This song came from a Atlanta producer and I've had it on replay haha

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