This guy, " Lil B " got a record deal a while ago, listen to this song.
I thought it was a joke 100% at first, but I realized all his songs are like that. I suggest listening to the whole song because it is very funny. He put no effort into the track o.o
Now, lets look a while back a fewlot of years and listen to this song " Slick Rick - Children's Story.
This song probably took a very long time to make but it is verrrry good, it has great story telling and mediocre lyricism.
Another example of a song that actually makes sense, has great story telling and pretty decent lyricism.
Idk why I just wanted to post this to give TL.Net some lols and to see that hip hop/ rap now SUCKS
Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 2002 but it didn't get real bad till around 2007. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.
At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music
On December 25 2009 04:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'll post some good rap to help me clean my ears of that horrible shit I just listened to.
I've always hated your posting, literally, every single fucking post, I just loathed you along time ago.
But now you go and post my favorite can ox song, then post my favorite rapper a.r., and post a song by him that most people don't even know exists, most people don't know about team teamwork.
Here we go I guess
Also I saw cage live awhile back, he signed my t-shirt, and I pushed a guy that was cussing him out.
On December 25 2009 03:45 Misrah wrote: I treat music the way i treat candy. I throw away the wrappers, and keep the rest.
Haha, so good.
Somewhat the same for me, but only because it's hard to find rappers that are genuinely talented and/or good without actively looking for them. Since I generally don't listen to rap, I don't actively look for it, as a result, rarely listen to rap.
On December 25 2009 03:45 Misrah wrote: I treat music the way i treat candy. I throw away the wrappers, and keep the rest.
Haha, so good.
Somewhat the same for me, but only because it's hard to find rappers that are genuinely talented and/or good without actively looking for them. Since I generally don't listen to rap, I don't actively look for it, as a result, rarely listen to rap.
There's plenty of talented rappers out there, just because the underground scene is "underground" doesn't mean they're hard to find. Just listen to a ton of it and try to find something you like. I never listened to rap until I heard a random immortal technique song along time back (I don't really like him, but he is good). You might just need to find something to hook you in. Try listening to some of the stuff in this thread and give it a chance I guess.
On December 25 2009 04:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'll post some good rap to help me clean my ears of that horrible shit I just listened to.
I've always hated your posting, literally, every single fucking post, I just loathed you along time ago.
But now you go and post my favorite can ox song, then post my favorite rapper a.r., and post a song by him that most people don't even know exists, most people don't know about team teamwork.
Also for a rap blog I can't help but post this video. This is the single greatest response to rap battle in the history of mankind. If you like experimental hip-hop I highly suggest the album "Earth Beasts Awaken" by Historian Himself. It's free on his website.
This video is Historian Himself's response to a rap battle by Tykwon Flow. Fabulous.
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote: Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.
At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music
I've got a question for the rap community. No I'm not trolling, I promise. Just me being uneducated.
I don't listen to much rap, but in...say the rock or metal genre, there's a ton of subgenres...like hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, blah blah blah. I don't care for alot of the bigger (more popular?) rap artists that are on the radio. I listen to stuff like..
Dr Octagon
Deltron 3030
and so on...I know a guy who listens to a lot of rap and when I ask him he's like... "I dunno, it's a lot of kinds." If I want to find similar rap to that, which genre should I look for or what are some similar artists?
On December 25 2009 04:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Also for a rap blog I can't help but post this video. This is the single greatest response to rap battle in the history of mankind. If you like experimental hip-hop I highly suggest the album "Earth Beasts Awaken" by Historian Himself. It's free on his website.
On December 25 2009 04:40 Torenhire wrote: I've got a question for the rap community. No I'm not trolling, I promise. Just me being uneducated.
I don't listen to much rap, but in...say the rock or metal genre, there's a ton of subgenres...like hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, blah blah blah. I don't care for alot of the bigger (more popular?) rap artists that are on the radio. I listen to stuff like..
Dr Octagon
Deltron 3030
and so on...I know a guy who listens to a lot of rap and when I ask him he's like... "I dunno, it's a lot of kinds." If I want to find similar rap to that, which genre should I look for or what are some similar artists?
Uh first of all Rap and Hip-Hop are different genres. Rap IS the main stream garbage. The only underground rap you will find are from really really bad up and comers trying to make it into the mainstream. (OP video for example)
So, yea, There is Hip-Hop which is more mainstreamed stuff, classic/golden age etc. If you go to the hip-hop wiki page there is a huge listing of all the sub genres.
People/Groups like Gravediggas, Necro, Goretex, and all those east coast psycho+illogical guys would be called horrorcore/deathrap/etc. Then you have pseudo christian/religious guys like Pigeon John, LMNO or whatever. Then you have lots of political MCs (nearly all underground hip-hop has something political to say, even guys like Nas). There has even been a rising trend of nerdcore/nerdrap/etc guys like Futuristic Sex Robots,Random, TY Cracker, MC Frontalot, etc.
I could go on, mostly all of the sub genres are considered underground,even though imo they are pretty mainstream. Stuff like Atmosphere, Visionaries, Sage Francis, Aesop Rock, Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, etc. etc. are all in this category. They are better than the commercial rap but not nearly as good as some of the deeper artists.
I like to think of it like this: These well known 'underground' artists are like the gateway drug to the heroine/crack that lies below.
On December 25 2009 04:40 Torenhire wrote: I've got a question for the rap community. No I'm not trolling, I promise. Just me being uneducated.
I don't listen to much rap, but in...say the rock or metal genre, there's a ton of subgenres...like hard rock, heavy metal, death metal, blah blah blah. I don't care for alot of the bigger (more popular?) rap artists that are on the radio. I listen to stuff like..
Dr Octagon
Deltron 3030
and so on...I know a guy who listens to a lot of rap and when I ask him he's like... "I dunno, it's a lot of kinds." If I want to find similar rap to that, which genre should I look for or what are some similar artists?
Uh first of all Rap and Hip-Hop are different genres. Rap IS the main stream garbage. The only underground rap you will find are from really really bad up and comers trying to make it into the mainstream. (OP video for example)
So yea There is Hip-Hop which is more mainstreamed stuff and classic/golden age stuff. If you go to the hip-hop wiki page there is a huge listing of all the sub genres.
So like Gravediggas, Necro, Goretex, and all those east coast psycho+illogical guys would be called horrorcore/deathrap/etc. Then you have pseudo christian/religious guys like Pigeon John, LMNO or whatever.
I could go on, mostly all of the sub genres are considered underground,even though imo they are pretty mainstream. Stuff like Atmosphere, Visionaries, Sage Francis, Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique, etc. etc. are all in this category. They are better than the commercial rap but not nearly as good as some of the deeper artists.
I like to think of it like this: These well known 'underground' artists are like the gateway drug to the heroine/crack that lies below.
Haha, I must've come back right as you had posted. I just love me some Dr. Octagon and have trouble finding people similar to him in style...so I just kinda asked that and a blanket of other stuff about the genre.
There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote: There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.
You are so fucking full of it. YOU are the one who starts all of those arguments
In this day and age, I don't understand how anyone can still be content with being fed by mainstream media when there are myriads of ways for you to go and find something you can actually relate to.
ooh everyone is posting their favorite hiphop, so ill do the same. i didnt used to be into it but one blazed car ride with a good sound system changed my whole perspective.
On December 25 2009 04:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Also for a rap blog I can't help but post this video. This is the single greatest response to rap battle in the history of mankind. If you like experimental hip-hop I highly suggest the album "Earth Beasts Awaken" by Historian Himself. It's free on his website.
Oh my god sorry for bumping this again with more Styles P but I just heard some of the realest shit ever from him. Dude is mad talented AND he's pretty "mainstream".
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote: There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.
You are so fucking full of it. YOU are the one who starts all of those arguments
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote: Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.
At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music
Fixed
How many posts you think you got where you quote someone, bold a word that you changed, then say "fixed?"
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote: Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.
At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music
Fixed
How many posts you think you got where you quote someone, bold a word that you changed, then say "fixed?"
On December 25 2009 04:09 Whiplash wrote: Ya I really kind of stopped listening to rap around 2004-2006. It was starting to go down hill since around 1996 but it didn't get real bad till around 2000. It's even worse now, talentless rappers out there rapping about bullshit and using auto tune wherever possible.
At least Metal is going strong, I need a main source of music
Fixed
How many posts you think you got where you quote someone, bold a word that you changed, then say "fixed?"
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote: There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.
You are so fucking full of it. YOU are the one who starts all of those arguments
haha the irony
What irony? You made a blatant lie which is basically instigating an argument; proving my point to be true. Your long diatribes in the hip hop song thread make it painfully obvious.
Ok you didn't lie, but you did imply that someone else carries all of those arguments.
This thread is very good, because I never heard of any of these guys before. I only listen to rap from the earlier part of the 90s. Good to see some decent stuff still exists. Although im a sucker for TI Yes flame away.
ya that first song is painful. You dont have to have good voice to rap anymore, its painful. All this tight pants shit and really horrible corny voice stuff needs to go. Its amazing that it has gotten progressively worse the past 2-3 years. It wasnt great before that at all, infact it was quite bad, but jesus christ give me crunk music over this tight jean shit.
On December 25 2009 05:02 CharlieMurphy wrote: There have also been a couple threads about Rap/Hip-Hop on TL. Most of which, unsurprisingly, degenerate into mostly people arguing about who is good/bad and what is the genre etc.
This is the thing that irritates me most about each and every discussion on hip hop on the internet and why I usually avoid blogs like these: people claiming underground stuff is the only good stuff and that mainstream hip hop is dead. It's actually more irritating than the rock/metalfans who are certain hip hop is not music but just someone talking over a piano loop.
But this is not new at all. My favorite album of all time, Endtroducing, had a skit on it called 'Why Hip Hop Sucks in '96'. Do you think '96 was a bad year for hip hop? I mean, just look at all the great albums that were released that year. Mainstream hip hop has apparently been dead since the dawn of the genre. Yeah sure, it has some rotten apples, but there probably isn't one single genre that does not have any bad artists at all. And please don't tell me you actually think that Immortal Technique or backpacker endorsed underground supergroup Jedi Mind Tricks are actually any better than Lupe Fiasco or Jay-Z because that would just make me sad.
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