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Jaedong vs Flash [SPOILER!] - Page 2

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FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
December 19 2009 12:14 GMT
#21
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
December 19 2009 12:27 GMT
#22
5/5 would read again
Redshirt
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
434 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-19 12:33:10
December 19 2009 12:30 GMT
#23
On December 19 2009 20:59 Myrkul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 19:12 MeProU_Kor wrote:
Dont read if u dont know the result!
+ Show Spoiler +
After watching the VOD i feel really sad. Im a big Flash fan because im a Terran user myself but I always liked JD cause he plays so good and has some really nice attitude. while watching the vod i was like " fuck him flash, fuck him for the t race" and when he did so i was so happy but when they saw JDs face i felt really sad for him. he was so near to start crying and i started to be really angry on myself cause i cheered more for flash than for JD T_T
anyone had the same feelings?


i dont know wtf you people are talking about, Jaedong was nowhere near crying, He just looked tired, and all this talk about flash being a lvl above jadeong or whoever is bullshit. It was a straight-up build order loss, If you go 3 hatch and then sunks you cant defend a 3d base against a terran strategy that was made specifficaly to deny a 3d base, The game was over when jaedong had to cancel his 3d base for the first time, the rest of it he played while seriously behind and thats why it looked so onesided, the match doesn't mean very much and is not indicative of anything(excpet that flash makes very few mistakes), If flash wins the next game in simillarly dominant fashion then i'm going to be impressed. For now it's just a well executed strategy against a tired-looking jaedong


Well Jaedong is a complete dumbass then for using a build that would net him a BO loss against the best TvZer who has been using the exact same strategy and pretty much the same build since the start of R1 proleague.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
December 19 2009 12:31 GMT
#24
Flash played so perfect in constantly denying Jaedong's third gas - the key to victory for ANY zergs (unless you're doing some all-in thing). Jaedong totally had no idea how to handle it, nor could he have expected such play by Flash (he should have gotten the hint after Flash vs ZerO though). This was Jaedong's game to lose, and Flash's game to win.
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-19 13:05:17
December 19 2009 13:03 GMT
#25
I think the tears had less to do with Flash raping him, but that he got knocked out with such a poor performance. A defeat like that could wreck his confidence for matches to come, and will certainly overshadow their next encounter.

How will Jdong play next time they meet? 4pool!?
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
December 19 2009 13:09 GMT
#26
On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.

I personally dont see them as just "video-gamers". They sacrifice a big part of their life to practice Starcraft which definitely requires enormous amount of determination. I dont understand why would you be against perceiving them as athletes and cheering for them like fans of other sports do.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
December 19 2009 13:13 GMT
#27
On December 19 2009 19:44 Garnet wrote:
When someone wins, someone else is supposed to lose.
its a fact, but its sometimes saddening when you dont want anyone to lose. for me its not just jd flash and other top players, but i feel for b-teamers who will never make it big but still pour their heart into practicing 12 hours a day because of their passion for the game; but i guess its like this in any professional sports
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
December 19 2009 14:06 GMT
#28
On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.


Uhh... this is what e-sport is supposed to be about =/.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
December 19 2009 14:16 GMT
#29
pfffft, obviously Jaedong threw that game only to make his next two rapes vs Flash all the much sweeter. that look on his face was a calculated and well delivered move to fool the fans. But I'm not falling for it, no sireee.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Dooba
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Croatia588 Posts
December 19 2009 14:18 GMT
#30
i was both sad seeing my favorite zerg lose and shocked at how well flash played. that kid is a freaking monster right now. i do hope JD gets back on track and flash just keeps up his form as it is so we can keep on enjoying the games they play
"Zergs are really stronger. I use to win 60-70%, now it is 40-50. I am switching to civilization 5 for now until any terran can come up with a better tactics."
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 19 2009 14:21 GMT
#31
I felt really bad when Jaedong lost

I almost didn't feel like continuing to watch the OSL games because of how bad I felt for Jaedong, but good thing I didn't stop because Calm and Movie cheered me up
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
December 19 2009 14:33 GMT
#32
Jaedong seemed to be very upset with himself, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't crying. However, even if he gets his ass handed to him next week again, he will bounce back. He won't break down, you cannot win the OSL every time.

And he is playing really good starcraft recently. It is just that Flash right now is just playing unbelievable in two matchups.

But winning streaks and phases of domination always end sometimes. Oovs TvZ streak ended, Flashs 26-2 run in early 2008 ended, Bests insane PvP-streak ended, JD is back to 75% ZvZ, etc.
When you are watching Flash right now in TvZ and TvT, you can hardly imagine how he is going to lose with his build and decision-making ever again (besides getting raped in early-midgame like vs Hyun). But it will happen eventually. And I am sure JD will be right there waiting.

But I've gotten off-track. Bottom line. Don't feel too bad for JD, he will push through.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Twilight Templar
Profile Joined April 2009
99 Posts
December 19 2009 14:44 GMT
#33
Was I the only one who was jumping for joy at flash's victory?
dum dadi do dum dum dee do dee da
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-19 14:58:37
December 19 2009 14:57 GMT
#34
On December 19 2009 23:06 shurgen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.


Uhh... this is what e-sport is supposed to be about =/.


Yeah, I don't understand that at all. Sorry. Even if you consider it the equivalent of any sport, be it football or whatever it is, it is still extremely offputting. When someone becomes this emotionally involved in the performance of someone they don't know... that isn't a sign of a mentally healthy person. I enjoy watching football as well, but I don't become this upset when the team I am rooting for loses. I just watch it to enjoy myself. When someone takes it this far, it bothers me. People get upset, cry, and throw childish fits over their favorite team/player... seriously? Grow up. Posting shit like this thread makes TL look like it is full of children.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
December 19 2009 15:08 GMT
#35
...what? Sports fans all around the world become upset when their team loses or ecstatic when their team wins. You're saying these people aren't mentally healthy?
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 19 2009 15:39 GMT
#36
On December 19 2009 23:57 RANDOMCL wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 19 2009 23:06 shurgen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.


Uhh... this is what e-sport is supposed to be about =/.


Yeah, I don't understand that at all. Sorry. Even if you consider it the equivalent of any sport, be it football or whatever it is, it is still extremely offputting. When someone becomes this emotionally involved in the performance of someone they don't know... that isn't a sign of a mentally healthy person. I enjoy watching football as well, but I don't become this upset when the team I am rooting for loses. I just watch it to enjoy myself. When someone takes it this far, it bothers me. People get upset, cry, and throw childish fits over their favorite team/player... seriously? Grow up. Posting shit like this thread makes TL look like it is full of children.

wtf man. what site do you think you're on?

Anyways I always feel a little bad for Jaedong when he loses a big game because I know he practices his ass off for it. but when he wins you know he deserved it.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
December 19 2009 17:33 GMT
#37
On December 19 2009 23:44 Twilight Templar wrote:
Was I the only one who was jumping for joy at flash's victory?


Hell no. First thing I did after watching the VOD was rub it in my jaedong-fanboy friend's face.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-19 17:48:54
December 19 2009 17:48 GMT
#38
On December 19 2009 19:33 thopol wrote:
I really like the Jaedong vs Flash rivalry. I particularly enjoy the fact that it stems from a level of balance between the players. Both JD and Flash are extremely mechanically proficient players who rarely miss a beat and are immaculate or flawless in terms of ingame actions. I was excited for the OSL match between these titans of modern StarCraft, and subsequently disappointed by the length and leaning of their first game.

As I viewed this thread I became really sad. I like the Jaedong vs Flash matchup and I appreciate and welcome discussion of it. I also consider myself a noob to TL having been posting here for barely a year and half. I feel that this OP could have contained insight into the JDvFlash rivalry. I also hoped that a thread with a topic so open to prolific discussion could contain some insight or perspective that I had not considered. It might have even contained something resembling proper capitalization. But when I clicked on it, you should have seen my face. I was so near to crying, I felt bad for ever clicking on this thread, and I started being angry for ever harboring the curiosity that led me to do so.


When I see someone not using capitalization at all, I look at their nationality immediately. It usually prevents me from bringing up my inner pedantic raging.
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
December 19 2009 17:49 GMT
#39
I wanted Flash to win, I don't care if it means destroying the other player.

Seriously, two seasons ago I was 15% TvZ on iCCup
I hate zerg
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kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
December 19 2009 17:54 GMT
#40
Jaedong has been known as the revenge killer. He usually loses the first set only to win the entire Best Of X
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