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Anyone else feel like they get smurfed alot?
Like they are playing fine versus their friends, you get on Iccup play some good 1v1's and 2v2's and then all the sudden you get crushed for like 4 games straight and feel like you suck?
I looked back at my game history on Iccup and find that my losing streaks always start with games against people that have a >80% win rate...
I'm a D player and I look back to see that those people are like 17-2 and are now C-.
Anyone else hate when this happens?
Since some people don't believe me here's a link to my iccup profile (Don't laugh in scorn, I do suck lol, but I don't exclusively play starcraft, I mean someones got to help their team win all the COD4 pc tournies)
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/traveler80.html
Anyways, I invite you people who doubt what I'm saying to check the people that I play during losing streaks...
I'm not complaining I'm just saying is there anyway to fix this problem, and I was posting this blog to make sure all this wasn't my imagination...
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I was doing decent on my TSL account and then a couple nights ago I just ran into a huge bad streak where I played the people at my rank but I got squashed. I went 1-12 so I just quit and went to sleep.
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It can be annoying when it happens too often. But if it is only once in a while it doesn't hurt to play vs better people imo.
I also feel kinda sry for the C/reset tards bashing on D. It makes me even more motivated to beat them and enjoying their next reset.
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i thought i was playing good and still lost badly to this toss on iccup once. Saw he was A and then cleared stats;; No wonder...
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On December 01 2009 02:32 Boblion wrote:
It can be annoying when it happens too often. But if it is only once in a while it doesn't hurt to play vs better people imo.
I also feel kinda sry for the C/reset tards bashing on D. It makes me even more motivated to beat them and enjoying their next reset.
Me too, used to happen me a lot. Now i've improve and can easly take a game out at a C- players  .
So now i actually enjoy, cheking stats and see i gave that guy his loss.
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I feel like there's a smurfing topic at least every week, that's what I feel :/
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Could just be that they are using a strat that you are weak against or that they themselves suck and only cheese their way into C-... Like people who think hitting a rank makes them that rank, it doesn't you need to actually have that skill level and not just abuse/cheese into that rank.
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United States42440 Posts
You're not getting smurfed. You're just bad and delusional and lying to yourself to make your losses alright. You're like the people who go "i lost to a 300apm terran, I think it's NaDa, check hotkeys pls" at C- guys with a negative record. Numerically there simply aren't enough B ranks to infest the 3/4 of games that Ds claim they're in. Only the top 10% of players make B- or better and they generally spend their time in Ladder A-B. A minority of that 10% may be smurfing lower ranks but even then they can't spend that much time there before they move out of it again.
It just doesn't add up. Statistically the chances of playing a smurf are pretty low, like 1/20 or so. That everybody believes they play 4 or 5 smurfs in a row on a nightly basis is mass delusion.
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About a week ago I played against this one guy "gsptest" who I found was B high while I was laddering up for TSL in a D/D+ game. Searched his iccup id and found he made 18 different smurf accounts starting with "gsptest" followed by numbers 1-18... I really don't understand how it's fun to smash D level players (I'm not D level, but it's where he smurfs at). I'm like barely C-/C and I find it really boring to play against D-/D. Then just today I saw him make a "1v1 D" game.
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Generally most of the "smurfs" I've met at D were all just D+ or C- players. No one drastically good. The few times I do meet someone who just started and are ranking up they usually never reset and just blast to C+ or something.
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On December 01 2009 02:52 KwarK wrote:
You're not getting smurfed. You're just bad and delusional and lying to yourself to make your losses alright. You're like the people who go "i lost to a 300apm terran, I think it's NaDa, check hotkeys pls" at C- guys with a negative record. Numerically there simply aren't enough B ranks to infest the 3/4 of games that Ds claim they're in. Only the top 10% of players make B- or better and they generally spend their time in Ladder A-B. A minority of that 10% may be smurfing lower ranks but even then they can't spend that much time there before they move out of it again.
It just doesn't add up. Statistically the chances of playing a smurf are pretty low, like 1/20 or so. That everybody believes they play 4 or 5 smurfs in a row on a nightly basis is mass delusion.
Yeah, I've played one B+ who reset and maybe a few C's. Other than that, in the 80-100 games I've played around the D/D+ level I haven't been "smurfed" at all. And even then, it was still an awesome feeling to make the B+ build a shield battery when my FD reached his nat (granted, he didn't have to use it... but still  )
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On December 01 2009 02:37 Sadistx wrote:
I feel like there's a smurfing topic at least every week, that's what I feel :/
I'm pretty sure they come up more often then that 
on topic: you get smurfed. So do we (unless you're C+/B-). Deal.
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Smurfs remind me of the South Park episode :D MY SMURFBERRIES!!!!
Also the Imaginationland episode: "We gotta get to the castle, smurf smurf."
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What is it with BW players and excuses for loses? It started with the OMG PVZ IS IMBALANCED shit a few years ago. Now it's your loses coming from smurfs. Ever think it might be your individual skill?
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On December 01 2009 02:52 KwarK wrote:
You're not getting smurfed. You're just bad and delusional and lying to yourself to make your losses alright. You're like the people who go "i lost to a 300apm terran, I think it's NaDa, check hotkeys pls" at C- guys with a negative record. Numerically there simply aren't enough B ranks to infest the 3/4 of games that Ds claim they're in. Only the top 10% of players make B- or better and they generally spend their time in Ladder A-B. A minority of that 10% may be smurfing lower ranks but even then they can't spend that much time there before they move out of it again.
It just doesn't add up. Statistically the chances of playing a smurf are pretty low, like 1/20 or so. That everybody believes they play 4 or 5 smurfs in a row on a nightly basis is mass delusion. you're assuming "smurf = B". for D players a C- player who reset his stats is considered a smurf. imagine how difficult it is for them for a mediocre D player to beat a mediocre C- player.
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Stop complaining about getting stomped and practice more sc please.
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United States42440 Posts
On December 01 2009 03:22 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2009 02:52 KwarK wrote:
You're not getting smurfed. You're just bad and delusional and lying to yourself to make your losses alright. You're like the people who go "i lost to a 300apm terran, I think it's NaDa, check hotkeys pls" at C- guys with a negative record. Numerically there simply aren't enough B ranks to infest the 3/4 of games that Ds claim they're in. Only the top 10% of players make B- or better and they generally spend their time in Ladder A-B. A minority of that 10% may be smurfing lower ranks but even then they can't spend that much time there before they move out of it again.
It just doesn't add up. Statistically the chances of playing a smurf are pretty low, like 1/20 or so. That everybody believes they play 4 or 5 smurfs in a row on a nightly basis is mass delusion. you're assuming "smurf = B". for D players a C- player who reset his stats is considered a smurf. imagine how difficult it is for them for a mediocre D player to beat a mediocre C- player.
D and D+, +130 for a win, -50 for a loss. That means that if two D rank players play 24 or so games, at least one, or possibly both, will now be D+. Obviously they're not allowed to play each other that much but the principle works for a larger pool of players. The principle also works for D+. All D rank players are C- if they play enough games against other players like them (ie as good as them and there by virtue of massgaming).
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All the time. I always check the reps later and it sucks to find out that random korean T you played 3 AM was actually some 250 APM B+ player. (happened to me)
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What feels really good though is beating a B- player when your highest rating ever is like 3050.
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On December 01 2009 03:29 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2009 03:22 redtooth wrote:On December 01 2009 02:52 KwarK wrote:
You're not getting smurfed. You're just bad and delusional and lying to yourself to make your losses alright. You're like the people who go "i lost to a 300apm terran, I think it's NaDa, check hotkeys pls" at C- guys with a negative record. Numerically there simply aren't enough B ranks to infest the 3/4 of games that Ds claim they're in. Only the top 10% of players make B- or better and they generally spend their time in Ladder A-B. A minority of that 10% may be smurfing lower ranks but even then they can't spend that much time there before they move out of it again.
It just doesn't add up. Statistically the chances of playing a smurf are pretty low, like 1/20 or so. That everybody believes they play 4 or 5 smurfs in a row on a nightly basis is mass delusion. you're assuming "smurf = B". for D players a C- player who reset his stats is considered a smurf. imagine how difficult it is for them for a mediocre D player to beat a mediocre C- player. D and D+, +130 for a win, -50 for a loss. That means that if two D rank players play 24 or so games, at least one, or possibly both, will now be D+. Obviously they're not allowed to play each other that much but the principle works for a larger pool of players. The principle also works for D+. All D rank players are C- if they play enough games against other players like them (ie as good as them and there by virtue of massgaming). i'm sorry but i don't understand what you are trying to prove there. in your scenario, i could theoretically get to olympic class by killing a D- player enough times. besides, this has nothing to do with what i said.
are you claiming that a mediocre D player is equal in skill to a mediocre C- player? sure there are those instances where a C- player isn't really deserving of C- and a D player might be better than his rank suggests but that is definitely not the norm. a C- player consistently resetting his stats whenever he gets to a yellow rank is going to have a relatively easy time beating on D players and thus cause all these "omfg smurf" posts.
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