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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 10:18:15
November 23 2009 08:40 GMT
#1
*EDIT: Oz Forever. Who needs another team?*

Through Anytime and ForGG, through the Shinhan Bank Proleague Grand Finals,and even through Killer and nukes, my appreciation/love for Oz has stood but not firmly. Now granted this isn't all that long ago, but for an Oz fan its felt like that.Even my FPL has sat through Hwaseung Oz, with no trades.
I'm not gonna throw away my fanboyism for Oz, but I'm coming to a realization, whether or not it has to do with JD's new contract or Cho's "lets make another zerg superstar in less than a year", I can't say, but Oz is tilting on the balance and I'm beginning to doubt. With tonight's match I hope to see Cho not make Oz fans slit their wrists by sending Killer for the Ace match.

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Please hope we don't see this again..

Oz fighting!

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Poll: Oz or Nahz
(Vote): Stick with Jaedong Oz and Crazy Cho
(Vote): Find another team, your lucks running out.




***
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 23 2009 08:44 GMT
#2
Don't give up on your team now matter how bad they play; even if Hwaseung get rolled tonight, be proud!
RIP Aaliyah
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
November 23 2009 08:45 GMT
#3
Yeah I decided to bank on Jaedong and Oz doing awesome this season for my fantasy team, man was I wrong.

Everyone who went with Flash had much better forethought than I did. I dont really know what Oz can do to be honest, it seems like Jaedong isnt reliable to take it to ace and neither is two other players right now for Oz.

CMON YOU CAN DO IT OOZZZZ CHOOOO
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 09:12:25
November 23 2009 09:01 GMT
#4
Its not that bad you guys - were still at the beginning of round 1. The Killer fad by Coach Cho was stupid, both as an idea in itself and in who he chose to give this "crash course" to, but its not nearly as bad as losing Anytime was.

Plus Jaedong is still ungodly good and therefore how much trouble can we really be in.
Writerman what
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 09:03:34
November 23 2009 09:01 GMT
#5
True fan is recognized by staying with his team through bad times! I know i had my hard times last season with KT, but i cheered for them even when flash was mini-slumping. If you change your team only because they aren't performing perfectly, you are just "succes whore".
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
November 23 2009 09:09 GMT
#6
haha I'll stick by Oz since it's already been this long and Atrioc made a great point, losing Anytime was much much worse, I'll just have to see how things turn out. Hopefully my next blog will be delighting in my fanboyism of Oz
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 23 2009 09:22 GMT
#7
Don't give up hope yet...
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 09:31:40
November 23 2009 09:25 GMT
#8
Stay strong... stay strong.

On November 23 2009 17:45 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I dont really know what Oz can do to be honest, it seems like Jaedong isnt reliable to take it to ace and neither is two other players right now for Oz.


I think a lot of people expect way too much of Jaedong as he was so dominant at the end of last season. Few losses here and there mean nothing.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
November 23 2009 09:40 GMT
#9
Anytime-Jaedong-fOrGG OZ owned, Jaedong-fOrGG OZ owned, Jaedong OZ = no

Plus Lecaf sounded a lot more badass
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 23 2009 09:41 GMT
#10
A real fan wouldnt have a poll asking people if he should stay a fan. imo you dont care for this team much and should move on and find a team you can care about.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 23 2009 09:46 GMT
#11
Interesting balance here....
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
November 23 2009 10:05 GMT
#12
You know what they call this. Being a fairweather fan. Lots of fairweather Ninerfans. Don't be an fairweather Oz fan.

See http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fair weather fan
“The beauty of Bill's system was that there was always a place to go with the ball, ... I was the mailman, just delivering people's mail, and there were all kinds of houses to go to.”-Joe Montana
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 23 2009 10:08 GMT
#13
On November 23 2009 17:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Don't give up on your team now matter how bad they play; even if Hwaseung get rolled tonight, be proud!

This.
On November 23 2009 18:01 Atrioc wrote:
Its not that bad you guys - were still at the beginning of round 1. The Killer fad by Coach Cho was stupid, both as an idea in itself and in who he chose to give this "crash course" to, but its not nearly as bad as losing Anytime was.

Plus Jaedong is still ungodly good and therefore how much trouble can we really be in.

And this.

Don't people remember how abysmal SKT's record was in PL R1 last year? Look how that turned out.
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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 10:18:43
November 23 2009 10:17 GMT
#14
You guys are all correct, I shouldn't have doubted. Thanks!
The poll is seriously just bizarre though haha
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 11:51:16
November 23 2009 10:28 GMT
#15
dont like a team just because they are winning.
i was a braves fan back in '91 when sid bream was their first baseman.
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
November 23 2009 11:05 GMT
#16
Gotta love bandwagon fans.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 23 2009 11:43 GMT
#17
That's right... Lomo for ace match. It's only a matter of time before all Oz fans abandon ship.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
November 23 2009 11:46 GMT
#18
oz is failing again tonight
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
November 23 2009 11:51 GMT
#19
More completely inexplicable bullshit for Oz fans to ponder over tonight. To be honest, I can forgive jumping ship now. It's not as if Oz are going through a rough patch, it's almost as if they're going out of their way to lose and test the patience of their fans.
John49ers
Profile Joined May 2009
United States237 Posts
November 23 2009 12:11 GMT
#20
On November 23 2009 19:17 ryuu_ wrote:
You guys are all correct, I shouldn't have doubted. Thanks!
The poll is seriously just bizarre though haha


No problem.

I think the poll is bizarre as of when i post this (close to 50%) because real Oz fans don't want fairweather guys rooting for their team. They're voting for you to hop on another bandwagon to filter you guys out. Sticking with your team through these tough times is what being a fan is all about
“The beauty of Bill's system was that there was always a place to go with the ball, ... I was the mailman, just delivering people's mail, and there were all kinds of houses to go to.”-Joe Montana
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 12:25:52
November 23 2009 12:25 GMT
#21
at least oz is still trying to develop their team, looks like khan already gave up
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 12:36:13
November 23 2009 12:30 GMT
#22
It's better that they try this crap in round 1 since it *might* pay off later on, whereas just JD-whoring like they did last season will just have them failing in the playoffs like they did against SKT. Of course if it doesn't pay off, then they won't have been worthy of making the playoffs to begin with, so whatever. If any of Killer/Perfectman/Spear/Lomo/Backho grow under pressure and start providing consistent results later on, these early losses will be a rather cheap price to pay for adding a reliable starter to the lineup.

I should add that this is the only way to wean the rest of Oz off of riding Jaedong's coattails, as well as the only way Oz (and every team besides KT and SKT lol) can augment their lineup.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
November 23 2009 12:31 GMT
#23
** PASTED FROM MY OTHER POST **

Mr.Cho is simply doing his team and his number #1 player a world of good

1. Resting Jaedong = Reducing stress, work overload and energy ( FA controversy about him mega stressed )

2. Moulding his lower class players into stronger advanced players by sending them out into the Abyss allowing them to gain the experience needed so one day Oz won't have to rely on Jaedong constantly.

In the business world this is called Diversification, if supply from one source runs out... they simply rely on the second source this is essential for business success
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 12:33:09
November 23 2009 12:32 GMT
#24
+ Show Spoiler +
It wasn't Killer, it was failmo.

EDIT
On the other hand, I'm really glad estro won. (:
Hello
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 23 2009 12:41 GMT
#25
This is better imo. They can't hope to win proleagues off a single player. But they're building up, and in a couple seasons they'll be a top team no problem.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
November 23 2009 14:39 GMT
#26
Um, I'm a Khan fan, so I can safely tell you to never give up on your team, no matter how bad they're doing now.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
November 23 2009 14:46 GMT
#27
don't jump on a bandwagon
stick to your failtrain.
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
November 23 2009 15:31 GMT
#28
On November 23 2009 21:41 Cloud wrote:
This is better imo. They can't hope to win proleagues off a single player. But they're building up, and in a couple seasons they'll be a top team no problem.

in a couple seasons they'll still be pathetic
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