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So, I may have the swine flu..... - Page 3

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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-04 07:39:11
November 04 2009 07:37 GMT
#41
On November 04 2009 14:51 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2009 13:00 eshlow wrote:
Take some vitamin D. No, NOT vitamin C.... vitamin D.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/

+pubmed studies

Vitamin D has immunomodulatory effects including increasing cathelicidin and defensins 1 &2 which are anti-microbial peptides. Plus, it also activates T lymphocytes.

Vitamin C doesn't do anything. Don't take it.


Hydrate well

Sleep a lot.

You should be fine.


Because an increased antimicrobial capability would help to fight off a virus amirite?

But anyway being sick sucks, i hope you get better soon.


Uh, wrong. Just because a molecule is classified as an antimicrobial peptide (AMP) doesn't mean it doesn't exert anti-fungal and anti-viral effects.

It just so happens that cathelicidin actually DOES ergogenically enhance immunity against influenza among other respiratory infections.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18424743
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18377099
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17113647
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16909921

Modulation of T-lymphocytes increases immunity against both viruses and bacteria.


On November 04 2009 14:17 synapse wrote:
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On November 04 2009 13:32 eshlow wrote:
On November 04 2009 13:13 synapse wrote:
On November 04 2009 13:00 eshlow wrote:
Take some vitamin D. No, NOT vitamin C.... vitamin D.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/

+pubmed studies

Vitamin D has immunomodulatory effects including increasing cathelicidin and defensins 1 &2 which are anti-microbial peptides. Plus, it also activates T lymphocytes.

Vitamin C doesn't do anything. Don't take it.


Hydrate well

Sleep a lot.

You should be fine.


Vitamin D is relatively nonpolar => only soluble in hydrocarbons = lipids => too much of it = bad
since your body produces it naturally, taking vitamin D supplements is usually not a good idea (unless you have some low-vitamin-d defect............)
Vitamin C you can take a shitload of because its soluble in water


Vitamin D is indeed a fat soluble hormone.

I am not seeing how you can have "too much" in a short amount of time though especially if you're extreme conservative with dosing. There's studies where they megadosed 100,000 IU to children with no ill effects.

Pharmacological dose is bodyweight in lbs * 1000 / 3 per 3 days. So 150 lbs = 150,000 IU/3 = 50,000 IU per day over 3 days. That's how much they'd give you in the hospital if they found you were deficient during an illness.

I went conservative when I had to the flu and took 20,000 IU/day. Cleared it up pretty quickly.

From the IRL people I've recommended it to I've had about 80-90% success rate with respiratory infections (overall). And it just so happens ~80-90% of the population is deficient or severely deficient.

For reference I've been taking 10,000 IU a day for 6 weeks now with no ill effects. Switched down to 5,000 IU now and I'm still fine. No overdose symptoms in the slightest.

Since most people are deficient, most people would likely benefit from supplementing. Especially now that it's winter when there's not a lot of sun out.


Theoretically, it's the same reason that vitamin A can kill you if you take too much of it - you only have so much fat to store your vitamin D in; taking in too much vitamin D will saturate your lipids with stuff you don't necessarily need. Thus, Vitamin D is beneficial, but only in relatively small amounts.

Though I guess your case(s) do(es) kind of prove otherwise ?


If you read the article I linked up there I listed several studies showing that 10,000 IU for several months was not toxic and being consider by FDA/NIH to be the "safe" proposed upper limit within the next year or two.

-----------------

Sonuvbob has it right. Although I have seen a couple different studies showing that our bodies only produce 10,000 IU per day in sunlight or 20,000 IU/day. So I don't know which one is correct but... 10,000 IU is probably better if you wanna be on the safe side I guess. I referenced that one.

So anyway, take your Vitamin D!!
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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 04 2009 08:07 GMT
#42
Guess you're not IMPERVIOUS to that.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4212 Posts
November 04 2009 08:24 GMT
#43
On November 04 2009 17:07 Loanshark wrote:
Guess you're not IMPERVIOUS to that.


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If you haven`t noticed - I`m not dead, nor likely to have any lasting effects, therefore, it`s still true
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
November 04 2009 08:42 GMT
#44
On November 04 2009 17:24 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
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On November 04 2009 17:07 Loanshark wrote:
Guess you're not IMPERVIOUS to that.


[image loading]


If you haven`t noticed - I`m not dead, nor likely to have any lasting effects, therefore, it`s still true


Impervious also means not allowing entrance or passage so I think he was correct indeed. Btw what's with the capitals dude it's painful to look at.
Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
November 04 2009 08:47 GMT
#45
I had swine flu.


Regular flu was 1000x worse.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4212 Posts
November 04 2009 19:23 GMT
#46
On November 04 2009 17:42 resonance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2009 17:24 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
On November 04 2009 17:07 Loanshark wrote:
Guess you're not IMPERVIOUS to that.


[image loading]


If you haven`t noticed - I`m not dead, nor likely to have any lasting effects, therefore, it`s still true


Impervious also means not allowing entrance or passage so I think he was correct indeed. Btw what's with the capitals dude it's painful to look at.


It's because there are no "i"'s in my name. I use a lowercase "L" to hide it. It's the exact same name I use on ICCUP and East (as well as some other websites).
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
~Legit~
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States408 Posts
November 04 2009 19:54 GMT
#47
I had flu a couple of weeks ago. Some of the worst days of my life of course. Hate getting the flu. Nothing is worse then being nauseous with cold sweats, and everything hurts. On the flip side though, after feeling so bad for a couple of weeks, now feeling normal is great!
LegitMatthew
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
November 05 2009 19:58 GMT
#48
On November 05 2009 04:54 ~Legit~ wrote:
I had flu a couple of weeks ago. Some of the worst days of my life of course. Hate getting the flu. Nothing is worse then being nauseous with cold sweats, and everything hurts. On the flip side though, after feeling so bad for a couple of weeks, now feeling normal is great!

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say food poisoning is worse... but I totally get your point XD

Luckily I've never had anything wosre than that, or at least not yet...
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4212 Posts
November 05 2009 23:07 GMT
#49
Well, I've officially been cleared. Sweet!
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 05 2009 23:09 GMT
#50
You must've passed it over the internet to me because now I'VE GOT IT and I can't go to Xeris' epic LAN this weekend because of it.

FUUUUUUUU....
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 01:16:50
November 06 2009 01:16 GMT
#51
On November 04 2009 17:47 Vharox wrote:
I had swine flu.


Regular flu was 1000x worse.



Agreed. Not puking makes it a lot better.

That being said having 100-102 temp for 3 days and a bad cough isn't exactly comfortable.
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